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Do you feel you should have dedicated subs with STS's? I was about to pull the trigger on a sub but is it worth it? The subs seem good in the STS's but am I missing something?

The short answer is yes. A separate Sub will make a huge difference. Depending on the room size one sub may be enough.

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Do you feel you should have dedicated subs with STS's? I was about to pull the trigger on a sub but is it worth it? The subs seem good in the STS's but am I missing something?

You definitely will benefit having a separate sub (or two) with your Mythos STS speakers. I got the Mythos ST-Ls for my fronts and thought that would be enough for the bass in movies (including LFE). I was happy for the most part, but then started to experience issues with lower frequencies near reference output (65 dB to 75 dB). It seemed the ST-Ls struggled somewhat and were not giving me output similar to what my friends with dedicated subs had. BTW the same issue arose with my friend who had the GE Triton 1s. I decided to go ahead and get a dedicated sub and went with the JTR Captivator 1400. The difference was insane. Movies came alive, LFE/ low bass sounded spectacular and my ST-Ls too sounded much better.

Speaker manufacturers always exaggerate specs of their speakers. In the case of the ST-Ls and Triton 1s, their FR is supposed to go down to 15 Hz. However, that just isn't possible at SPL levels at or close to reference. My friend (with the Triton 1s) went with 2 Seaton sealed subs and is over the moon with the sound now. I too am now thrilled with the ST-Ls with the addition of a separate sub.

Bottom-line is that if you do like to watch movies, then you should definitely get a sub or two (which will also take a load off your receiver). Music normally doesn't go that low, so if your primary use for the STS is music, then they might suffice.


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You definitely will benefit having a separate sub (or two) with your Mythos STS speakers. I got the Mythos ST-Ls for my fronts and thought that would be enough for the bass in movies (including LFE). I was happy for the most part, but then started to experience issues with lower frequencies near reference output (65 dB to 75 dB). It seemed the ST-Ls struggled somewhat and were not giving me output similar to what my friends with dedicated subs had. BTW the same issue arose with my friend who had the GE Triton 1s. I decided to go ahead and get a dedicated sub and went with the JTR Captivator 1400. The difference was insane. Movies came alive, LFE/ low bass sounded spectacular and my ST-Ls too sounded much better.

Speaker manufacturers always exaggerate specs of their speakers. In the case of the ST-Ls and Triton 1s, their FR is supposed to go down to 15 Hz. However, that just isn't possible at SPL levels at or close to reference. My friend (with the Triton 1s) went with 2 Seaton sealed subs and is over the moon with the sound now. I too am now thrilled with the ST-Ls with the addition of a separate sub.

Bottom-line is that if you do like to watch movies, then you should definitely get a sub or two (which will also take a load off your receiver). Music normally doesn't go that low, so if your primary use for the STS is music, then they might suffice.


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I run test tones on my ST-Ls and until freq reached to about 35 Hz I could not hear or feel anything. But for me it is perfectly okay - still much lower than STS a had.

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I run test tones on my ST-Ls and until freq reached to about 35 Hz I could not hear or feel anything. But for me it is perfectly okay - still much lower than STS a had.

That seems awfully off. So you heard nothing at all until the 35 Hz tones? If so, you are missing out with movies.


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Anyone else have a "problem" with metal cabinets on the ST-L instead of wood?
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I have the ST's and experienced almost the same until I run cables to the LFE input from the Sub output on the PreAmp/Processor. The Bass then came alive. Adding a Sub still was a huge improvement. I have heard both the STS and ST in small rooms and they were great with strong Bass even on the very low end. So much depends on where they are placed, room size and configuration.

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That seems awfully off. So you heard nothing at all until the 35 Hz tones? If so, you are missing out with movies.


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I have smaller living room and have no problem with bass. I watched "Jurassic World" yesterday and the whole room was shaking - sound track was not realistic by any means. For music there is much more bass than needed so I trimmed SW pre out by -3db. For big room it probably may not have enough energy to shake things up but I never tried it.

In any case, freq response is measured here:
http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/ind...nts&Itemid=153

As you can see after 30hz it goes steeply down. There is still some 20Hz but with too little pressure.

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Mythos Upgrade time. Need advice!

Hi All,

I have the Mythos 1s now for Front L and Rs and looking to upgrade to Mythos 10s. Is this an upgrade or will it be a parallel move? If it's not a big upgrade, maybe I should move to the STS towers? It would just be nice to move off the floor and wall mount, but not if it's not an upgrade. I bought an 8080HD for Center(Upgrading from a Mythos 3).

I also have PM 800s for my surround L/R and Surround Rear L/R speakers. Should I upgrade those to Bipolars? I'm looking for a more immersive sound all around. Currently 7.1, with an old HSU VTF-3 MK2 12" sub.

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Hi All,

I have the Mythos 1s now for Front L and Rs and looking to upgrade to Mythos 10s. Is this an upgrade or will it be a parallel move? If it's not a big upgrade, maybe I should move to the STS towers? It would just be nice to move off the floor and wall mount, but not if it's not an upgrade. I bought an 8080HD for Center(Upgrading from a Mythos 3).

I also have PM 800s for my surround L/R and Surround Rear L/R speakers. Should I upgrade those to Bipolars? I'm looking for a more immersive sound all around. Currently 7.1, with an old HSU VTF-3 MK2 12" sub.

Thanks all!

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The One's are pretty bright sounding in comparison to the Ten's. The Ten's are much milder on the high end. If you really like the One's you will miss them. The STS or ST would be a better move as far as an upgrade.

As far as surrounds it's a personal preference. They aren't as critical.

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The One's are pretty bright sounding in comparison to the Ten's. The Ten's are much milder on the high end. If you really like the One's you will miss them. The STS or ST would be a better move as far as an upgrade.

As far as surrounds it's a personal preference. They aren't as critical.
I bought the 8080hd for center and will try that with my mythos 1s. If I need to, I'll upgrade to the Sts for l and r.

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You definitely will benefit having a separate sub (or two) with your Mythos STS speakers. I got the Mythos ST-Ls for my fronts and thought that would be enough for the bass in movies (including LFE). I was happy for the most part, but then started to experience issues with lower frequencies near reference output (65 dB to 75 dB). It seemed the ST-Ls struggled somewhat and were not giving me output similar to what my friends with dedicated subs had. BTW the same issue arose with my friend who had the GE Triton 1s. I decided to go ahead and get a dedicated sub and went with the JTR Captivator 1400. The difference was insane. Movies came alive, LFE/ low bass sounded spectacular and my ST-Ls too sounded much better.

Speaker manufacturers always exaggerate specs of their speakers. In the case of the ST-Ls and Triton 1s, their FR is supposed to go down to 15 Hz. However, that just isn't possible at SPL levels at or close to reference. My friend (with the Triton 1s) went with 2 Seaton sealed subs and is over the moon with the sound now. I too am now thrilled with the ST-Ls with the addition of a separate sub.

Bottom-line is that if you do like to watch movies, then you should definitely get a sub or two (which will also take a load off your receiver). Music normally doesn't go that low, so if your primary use for the STS is music, then they might suffice.


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That seems awfully off. So you heard nothing at all until the 35 Hz tones? If so, you are missing out with movies.


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I have the ST's and experienced almost the same until I run cables to the LFE input from the Sub output on the PreAmp/Processor. The Bass then came alive. Adding a Sub still was a huge improvement. I have heard both the STS and ST in small rooms and they were great with strong Bass even on the very low end. So much depends on where they are placed, room size and configuration.
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I have smaller living room and have no problem with bass. I watched "Jurassic World" yesterday and the whole room was shaking - sound track was not realistic by any means. For music there is much more bass than needed so I trimmed SW pre out by -3db. For big room it probably may not have enough energy to shake things up but I never tried it.

In any case, freq response is measured here:
http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/ind...nts&Itemid=153

As you can see after 30hz it goes steeply down. There is still some 20Hz but with too little pressure.

I also ran into a problem with the bass and my ST-L's at reference levels. They are great speakers but you simply can't get the LFE out of an "all in one" design. Initially I had my LFE out running into the ST-L's but since I added my two Submersive's I went to traditional banana plugs. The idea being to utilize the crossover in my processor and NOT send frequencies to the ST-L's that they can't handle. Unless I am missing something if you feed the LFE signal into the Mythos your crossover only effects what you send to the tweeters and the midrange and ALL bass below that point goes to the built in Mythos subs whereas going straight banana plugs with a separate sub allows you to send signals down to 40HZ (or higher) to the ST-L's and everything below that point to your dedicated sub. For me, the difference is night and day. Then again, I will probably be deaf by the time I am 60....at least according to my wife!

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Hello all, I am considering purchasing a set of 3 DT Mythos 10 speakers to use as L-C-R in my living room setup. These will be wall mounted next to and below my TV. I see in the product description the following which sounds great: "The Mythos Ten comes with a wall-mounting bracket that will adapt to most swing out, arm-style TV wall mounts, so the speaker moves along with your TV when you reposition it."

I was planning on mounting my TV with this type of mount already but I was curious if anyone here had mounted the speakers like this? If so, could you explain more about how it is all setup or maybe take a picture or two? Anyone have examples of specific TV mounts that would work with these? I'm just having a hard time envisioning how they are all fastened to the mount where they would move with the TV.

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Hello all, I am considering purchasing a set of 3 DT Mythos 10 speakers to use as L-C-R in my living room setup. These will be wall mounted next to and below my TV. I see in the product description the following which sounds great: "The Mythos Ten comes with a wall-mounting bracket that will adapt to most swing out, arm-style TV wall mounts, so the speaker moves along with your TV when you reposition it."

I was planning on mounting my TV with this type of mount already but I was curious if anyone here had mounted the speakers like this? If so, could you explain more about how it is all setup or maybe take a picture or two? Anyone have examples of specific TV mounts that would work with these? I'm just having a hard time envisioning how they are all fastened to the mount where they would move with the TV.

Thanks so much I really appreciate the help!
Yes.

The Mythos 10 is not exactly light, so you may have some downward rotation sag (a few degrees) if you do not mount it to a substantial bracket.

My 80" TV is on a pullout swivel mount that extends and rotates fully (so we can watch from the kitchen too).




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It is a compromise installation; which sounds incredible.

The rear surround speakers are mounted wide and in the ceiling; as the sofa sectional is against the wall.

Its not ideal, however it is a remarkable and immersive experience.

The TV is an 80-inch set (a modestly wide expanse) and relative to the sweet spot, the Mythos Ten high and mid frequency drivers are a few feet above the viewers head. During rain, wind, dinosaur romps, and alien ship fly-overs the sound is very expansive with a profound vertical soundscape presence.

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Hello all. I just purchased a pair of ST-Ls that i got a deal on. I was also able to order a Mythos 9 to use as my center. They did not have the ability to order a Mythos 10 (BB store). Did i make a huge mistake not using a 10 as the center?

Also what surrounds would you guys recommend to complete this set. I have considering getting the SR-8040 but not sure if thats the right chioce. They will be all powered by a Marantz SR6010 for now. My content is 50/40/10 Movies/TV/Music.
The room is 19x12 with the LCR firing the longer length of the room if that helps at all.

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Hello all. I just purchased a pair of ST-Ls that i got a deal on. I was also able to order a Mythos 9 to use as my center. They did not have the ability to order a Mythos 10 (BB store). Did i make a huge mistake not using a 10 as the center?

Also what surrounds would you guys recommend to complete this set. I have considering getting the SR-8040 but not sure if thats the right chioce. They will be all powered by a Marantz SR6010 for now. My content is 50/40/10 Movies/TV/Music.
The room is 19x12 with the LCR firing the longer length of the room if that helps at all.

Thank you!

Do you need the low profile of the mythos line? Do you plan on wall mounting it? If not the ten will not keep up with the stl.I own the mythos st and ten along with the gem xl and the ten is the weak link for sure. The 8080hd is a better match for the stl. I am happy with the gem xl because of they're size, room won't accommodate larger surrounds.
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Do you need the low profile of the mythos line? Do you plan on wall mounting it? If not the ten will not keep up with the stl.I own the mythos st and ten along with the gem xl and the ten is the weak link for sure. The 8080hd is a better match for the stl. I am happy with the gem xl because of they're size, room won't accommodate larger surrounds.
I liked how shallow the mythos is. If you're saying the 10 won't play well with the ST-L then i should be returning the 9 it sounds like. The center will be mounted on a mantel (that i have yet to build), so i don't want a super deep speaker. If i squeezed a 8080hd on there would it still play well placed against up against the back of the wall?

If you had room for larger surrounds which would you have chosen? Space isn't too much of an issue for me with the surrounds.
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I liked how shallow the mythos is. If you're saying the 10 won't play well with the ST-L then i should be returning the 9 it sounds like. The center will be mounted on a mantel (that i have yet to build), so i don't want a super deep speaker. If i squeezed a 8080hd on there would it still play well placed against up against the back of the wall?

If you had room for larger surrounds which would you have chosen? Space isn't too much of an issue for me with the surrounds.
If you want a slender profile then the 10 would be the best. The 8080hd is big, being up against the wall isn't as bad as being enclosed in something. Remember the low end will be directed to the mains and or subwoofer. Don't get me wrong for the size the ten is good sounding just in my opinion not in the same class as the st/stl. I am happy with the gems for surrounds. I don't feel the need for a full range surround speaker since I only use them for movies not much for multi channel audio. Its funny if I were to upgrade to a larger surround it would probably be the ten. Not to contradict myself but I like a full range sound coming from the front 3. Its a shame def tech doesn't offer a more substantial center like the goldenear super center xxl. Back to your original question, if going with the mythos I'd go ten. Sorry for the rambling.
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I liked how shallow the mythos is. If you're saying the 10 won't play well with the ST-L then i should be returning the 9 it sounds like. The center will be mounted on a mantel (that i have yet to build), so i don't want a super deep speaker. If i squeezed a 8080hd on there would it still play well placed against up against the back of the wall?

If you had room for larger surrounds which would you have chosen? Space isn't too much of an issue for me with the surrounds.
I have the baby brother STS's and have gone through the 9, 10 and now have the CS-8060HD. I had the flexibility to go with a larger center and have to say the CS blow the 9 and 10 away if you have the room. I may be upgrading to the 8080HD in a bit. If you can, just get the 8080.

For surrounds I had the Gem XL's and changed over to the SR-8080's and find them to be an improvement over the Gem's. Another option is the PM1000's as surrounds.

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I have the baby brother STS's and have gone through the 9, 10 and now have the CS-8060HD. I had the flexibility to go with a larger center and have to say the CS blow the 9 and 10 away if you have the room. I may be upgrading to the 8080HD in a bit. If you can, just get the 8080.

For surrounds I had the Gem XL's and changed over to the SR-8080's and find them to be an improvement over the Gem's. Another option is the PM1000's as surrounds.
Prior to upgrading my PreAmp/Processor I would have agreed that the 9 and 10 were weak for the center. Since I upgraded I have to disagree. Much depends on the Surround Sound format you are using. My center (currently the Mythos 8 until I repair my 10 that I over drove with too much power) does very well. I went from the Onkyo PRSC5508 to the Marantz AV8802A and it made a huge difference. So let your ears be the judge for your system.

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Prior to upgrading my PreAmp/Processor I would have agreed that the 9 and 10 were weak for the center. Since I upgraded I have to disagree. Much depends on the Surround Sound format you are using. My center (currently the Mythos 8 until I repair my 10 that I over drove with too much power) does very well. I went from the Onkyo PRSC5508 to the Marantz AV8802A and it made a huge difference. So let your ears be the judge for your system.
I agree let your ears be the judge.
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I agree let your ears be the judge.
I skipped center ( and preamp)- do not see a need, even for movies. Nothing in DefTech offering matches or is as good as ST-L. ST-Ls are high end speakers and have very low distortions. Difference in SQ between ST-L and ST/STS is very noticeable - once you upgraded to ST-L you will never want to go back. Among other upgrades ST-L utilizes 3rd gen BDSS drivers. There are no other DefTech speakers that use these drivers or upgraded tweeters from ST-L.

ST-L deserves hi end amp, otherwise it does not make sense to buy ST-L - you will not use it to its full potential. So I suggest as the first step get rid of Marantz receiver ASAP, just run away.

I have the same problem with surrounds - mine are Gems - the only component I did not upgrade yet. Gem's midranges are not even BDSS but very old and outdated ones used in Mythos One and other speaker from very first generation of Mythos. I would upgrade to Gem XL but its frequency response curve is problematic and more so than Gems. It is shame that DefTech cannot figure out how to build surround speakers. ST-L deserves matching center and surrounds, why DefTech is not capable to come up with ones is a mystery for me.

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I went to check out the center 8060hd tonight. I don't see that thing fitting on any custom mantel let alone the 8080. I think I may be stuck with a mythos 9 or 10. Why can't def tech build a mythos St-l matching center???!!




For surrounds I'm still undecided between the gem , gem xl, and the sr8040 or 8080. There isn't a place near me to demo them.


I'm surprised on the amp recommendation given these are such efficient speakers. I don't play near reference levels 99% of the time , so would it really make much of a difference?
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I went to check out the center 8060hd tonight. I don't see that thing fitting on any custom mantel let alone the 8080. I think I may be stuck with a mythos 9 or 10. Why can't def tech build a mythos St-l matching center???!!




For surrounds I'm still undecided between the gem , gem xl, and the sr8040 or 8080. There isn't a place near me to demo them.


I'm surprised on the amp recommendation given these are such efficient speakers. I don't play near reference levels 99% of the time , so would it really make much of a difference?
Adding a Pwr Amp gets mixed comments. My preference is separate pwr amp, but sounds like it would be a waste in your case. My analogy is driving a 4 cylinder vs a strong V8. Jumping into traffic using the acceleration lane the V8 will accelerate faster and smoother but they both will get you there. You will have to worry about clipping though using the SR 6010.

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For surrounds I'm still undecided between the gem , gem xl, and the sr8040 or 8080. There isn't a place near me to demo them.

I'm surprised on the amp recommendation given these are such efficient speakers. I don't play near reference levels 99% of the time , so would it really make much of a difference?
You do not need powerful amp for ST-L since it has builtin woofer amp. It actually depends how big is the room and how loud you listen and what kind of amp you are using. Marantz SR6005 I had sounded okay until I tried separates. My Parasound A23 is "only" 125wt/8 om per channel and it sounded okay with ST-L but not when loud - when playing loud it does not sound so good - so it went to power Gems. Benchmark AHB2 which I bought couple of months ago is only 100wt but sounds extra clean and transparent at any volume including VERY loud and does not get even warm. But it is a very special amp by design is 3 times smaller than A23 but costs 3 times more than A23 - so you get what you paid for. Almost any amp has 1 month return policy so after selecting amp you can try it at home - any demo in the store does not mean how it will sound in your room.

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Adding a Pwr Amp gets mixed comments. My preference is separate pwr amp, but sounds like it would be a waste in your case. My analogy is driving a 4 cylinder vs a strong V8. Jumping into traffic using the acceleration lane the V8 will accelerate faster and smoother but they both will get you there. You will have to worry about clipping though using the SR 6010.
It is more than clipping SR6000 series are cheap and built to price and too many compromises are made. It is like Hyudai vs Audi - both FWD but big difference even if both are I4. There is good article about it: http://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/appl...audio-products. I would avoid it if I invested money into hi end speaker like ST-L.

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Hi all. So I'm planning to upgrade my system from 5.1 to 7.1 and i want to see if the mythos line would work well with my current setup. Right on I have a denon avr 2311 with pro monitor 1000s on the front, pro center 1000 and then the 800s on the back. Ideally I'd like to dicltch the center, move the 1000s to the back and place the 800s on the side and then use the mythos line to replace the front stage. I want to make sure that they will match my current speakers and not throw the system out of balance. Also I want to make sure my receiver will provide enough power to make them sound good. I'm looking at the mythos 9 or 10 series. Thanks for the help.

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Hi all. So I'm planning to upgrade my system from 5.1 to 7.1 and i want to see if the mythos line would work well with my current setup. Right on I have a denon avr 2311 with pro monitor 1000s on the front, pro center 1000 and then the 800s on the back. Ideally I'd like to dicltch the center, move the 1000s to the back and place the 800s on the side and then use the mythos line to replace the front stage. I want to make sure that they will match my current speakers and not throw the system out of balance. Also I want to make sure my receiver will provide enough power to make them sound good. I'm looking at the mythos 9 or 10 series. Thanks for the help.

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I believe all or most def tech speakers are timbre matched meaning they will have the same tonal balance. Your receiver will power them fine but an amp will sound much better when listen close or at reference levels. When I was on my upgrade path I used pro monitor 800's all around with a mythos ten center and it sounded darn good. Good luck.
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Thanks for the help! I've been thinking about adding an amp but have no idea what would work with my denon.

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Thanks for the help! I've been thinking about adding an amp but have no idea what would work with my denon.

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There's so many options. Bang for buck Emotiva is good. Others may chime in and give an opinion. Only your ears and budget can decide. You shopping the used market or new for the mythos?
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I would prefer new. I just found Emotiva online. They look pretty nice.

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