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post #31 of 5595 Old 01-10-2009, 11:59 AM
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Very cool to see this thread!
My Mythos system consists of:
Mythos ST x 2
Mythos 10 x 3 (center and side surrounds)
Mythos 8 x 2 (rear surrounds)
SVS Ultra PC13

I've finally found a speaker system that does it all,
sounds great
looks great
easy to drive
takes up minimal floor space (a big plus for me)
wall mountable surrounds (a must for me)
rave comments from visitors and company

Anyway looking forward to following this thread

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Very cool to see this thread!
My Mythos system consists of:
Mythos ST x 2
Mythos 10 x 3 (center and side surrounds)
Mythos 8 x 2 (rear surrounds)
SVS Ultra PC13

I've finally found a speaker system that does it all,
sounds great
looks great
easy to drive
takes up minimal floor space (a big plus for me)
wall mountable surrounds (a must for me)
rave comments from visitors and company

Anyway looking forward to following this thread

dc


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where are you crossing all your speakers ?

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sweet system DreamCatcher

where are you crossing all your speakers ?

I'm using Audyssey Pro (a friend of mine helped set me up) via the Denon 5308, which is crossing the ST's over at 40hz, the 10's at 100hz
and the 8's at 120hz.
Very satisfied with the results

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A few have requested pictures
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I'm using Audyssey Pro (a friend of mine helped set me up) via the Denon 5308, which is crossing the ST's over at 40hz, the 10's at 100hz
and the 8's at 120hz.
Very satisfied with the results

dc

Wow that sound very similar to what I had my Def Tech cross once Upon a time, for the exception of the mains which were a bit higher at 50hz/60hz...and they sounded heavenly

Glad they are still working for you..

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I'm using Audyssey Pro (a friend of mine helped set me up) via the Denon 5308, which is crossing the ST's over at 40hz, the 10's at 100hz
and the 8's at 120hz.
Very satisfied with the results

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What sub are you using with them DC?
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A few have requested pictures

Nice pics DreamCatcher...

Any chance of getting pics of your entire system?

Thanks!
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What sub are you using with them DC?
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Check a few posts up

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Nice pics DreamCatcher...

Any chance of getting pics of your entire system?

Thanks!

I'll work on that........

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Just got my Feb/March issue of Sound & Vision. They picked the Mythos STS Home Theater speaker system (includes Mythos Nine and Gem's) as their 2008 Audio Product of the Year.

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"... The performance of the... package was nothing short of stunning... It manages to get all of the music and home theater basics exactly right..."

Correction: It was the Gem's, not the XL's as I first posted. That must have been Freudian on my part, as I had been considering XL's for my own system.
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Just got my Feb/March issue of Sound & Vision. They picked the Mythos STS Home Theater speaker system (includes Mythos Nine and Gem XL's) as their 2008 Audio Product of the Year.

Thats pretty cool. makes me anticipate upgrading to sts's even more!
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Hey, MacFan424: what did S & V say was the advantage of the Mythos 9 over the other center choices in the Mythos line? (Haven't been able to find any specs on the Mythos 9 on the web)
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I don't think the Mythos 9 are available for sale yet.

That setup in Sound & Vision is very close to the one I just bought... Mythos STS x 2, Mythos Three, and GemXL x 2.
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Hey, MacFan424: what did S & V say was the advantage of the Mythos 9 over the other center choices in the Mythos line? (Haven't been able to find any specs on the Mythos 9 on the web)

They didn't. They made no comparisons with other Mythos speakers, except noting the similarities between the STS and the ST.

Like almost all reviewers, they review what the manufacturer sends them. That was the set DefTech gave them to review.

BTW, the full review of this set is in the January magazine (as I mentioned in post #17). The Feb/March issue only recaps previous reviews for the items given their Editors' Choice award.
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I'll work on that........

My system:

Front Mains - Mythos ST
Center - Mythos Ten
Surround - Mythos Gem XL
Subwoofer - Dual ULS-15's
Denon 3808ci

I currently have Gem XL's as rear surrounds. I have been considering purchasing another set of Gem XL's for Sides. Does anyone have comments on 7.1 vs 5.1? Dreamcatcher did you start with 7.1?
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My system:

Front Mains - Mythos ST
Center - Mythos Ten
Surround - Mythos Gem XL
Subwoofer - Dual ULS-15's
Denon 3808ci

sweet set-up dirtman

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sweet set-up dirtman

Any comments on 5.1 vs 7.1? I come across you quite a bit in several of the forums. Thanks for all your contributions!
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As an FYI: I added the link to the Sound & Vision Audio Product of the Year Announcement for the Mythos STS system to the first post (thanks, Macfan424!) When the actual full review gets on their site, I'll add that as well. If you are aware of other pro reviews of the Mythos line, please PM me, and I'll add them. Thanks for contributing to the thread!
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Any comments on 5.1 vs 7.1? I come across you quite a bit in several of the forums. Thanks for all your contributions!

i'm doing 6.1

not much true 7.1 stuff out yet

but as far as speaker recommendation, i'll yield to the mythos experts on that

i just happened to be passing by and read your system post

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How good is the Mythos Ten as a center channel speaker? Also, what would a reasonable crossover point be for the Ten?

I am considering a Mythos setup, but in the past have been let down by center channel performance - particularly with regard to dialogue intelligibility while watching television shows. I am hoping to get a speaker that does not exhibit that issue.

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How good is the Mythos Ten as a center channel speaker? Also, what would a reasonable crossover point be for the Ten?

I am considering a Mythos setup, but in the past have been let down by center channel performance - particularly with regard to dialogue intelligibility while watching television shows. I am hoping to get a speaker that does not exhibit that issue.

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Dialogue intelligibility is were the Mythos 10 shines, very clean and clear.
The 10 needs to be crossed over rather high, 100hz+, as it doesn't do well down low. But overall I like it... missed dialogue is a thing of the past

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Dialogue intelligibility is were the Mythos 10 shines, very clean and clear... missed dialogue is a thing of the past

I'm sure that's true. Even my Three is excellent in that regard, and the Ten would only be better.
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Hi folks ! I was wondering if someone has had experience with using Mythos 8's for the front three and opinions on SQ and dialog , and any reasons why you decided to keep them or go with something else .

Not much talk about them on this forum. they would be perfect match in hight with my plasma , the 10's are a little to tall even though the have the "updated" drivers so im considering the eights as long as dialog can be understood they will be used for about 80% TV and movies .

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Hi, Sight:

My speakers are really new (and so am I to this board ), so YMMV.

I'm using a Mythos 8 for my center channel, and I have tested it out with both movies and multi-channel music (Jazz and R & B mostly), while driving it with a Pioneer Elite Receiver (120 WPC)--crossover was 80 Hz using DD 5.1.

For movies, I find the center channel dialogue very clear and natural sounding, at both normal and at louder than comfortable volumes. The sound was detailed and various voices were distinct from the other sounds. This was even true in the very busy, loud action sequences in Chapter 1 of LOR:FOTR. Never sounded muddy to me--easy to understand without trying.

I also find the speaker quite musical--it tends towards the "less warm" side of the speaker spectrum, but makes up for it in a really crisp and dimensional midbass and high end. I cranked it up higher than comfortable, and it didn't sound strained or flat. Singing voices and piano sounded natural, although tending towards the brighter side of things, albeit not "tinny" or harsh.

I have not tested it with television signals. I haven't yet played around with different crossovers. Just for fun, I put it in a DT Pro Monitor system and it surprisingly blended well with even these less expensive speakers.

When you go audition the Mythos 8, I would respectfully recommend listening to it with and without a sub. It definately needs a quality sub to make it really shine, and listening to it only solo will give a biased impression of the speaker since it doesn't have a midbass bump. IMHO, a sub is necessary to give accurate picture of what it would sound like in a real world application, as that is the way it was purposely designed by DT.

To answer your other question: I decided to go with the 8 because its set of drivers match my L/R Mythos Ones. I also went with Mythos 8's for my rear surrounds for the same reason (I have not hooked these up yet). The aluminum finish 8's are also available at a really good price right now.

As I alluded to in the first sentence, my experience pales in comparison with other more veteran users on this board, so I'd be interested in their thoughts. I'm also admittedly biased since I just got the speaker, so others may have a more objective opinion. (There is also a link to a professional review of the 8's in the first post of this thread).

Good luck!

PS: My favorite remark about this speaker came from my 10 year old as we were strolling through a local higher end electronics store: "Gee, Dad, your speakers sound a whole lot better than those"
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mvp2005fan, to add to your frequency response data, I queried DefTech about the FR of the Mythos line and specifically of the ones I own (STS and Three). Here is the response:

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Unfortunately we do not have these rating available for all of our Mythos speakers.

Mythos STS: 28Hz - 20 kHz +/- 3 dB

I would approximate the Mythos Three as 100Hz - 20 kHz, +/- 3 dB.

Both would seem to confirm the entirely unscientific measurements I made myself.
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Thanks, MacFan424--will post them (and others) in the first post
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I notice that the aluminum version Mythos line are still marked down. It's making me consider an upgrade to my planned Gems and Seven setup. But I was really thinking about the black models. Is the grill on the silver model as black as the black model, or is it more of a charcoal?

But now I can't decide on what to get...

Front Sixes and a Center Seven or
Front GemXLs and a Center Three, or
Front Twos and a Center Three?
I'll still use regular Gems as rears and a SupercubeIII.

The marked down twos and three system would actually be slightly cheaper than my original Gems and Seven in black (retail). But I was never sure I would want the tall front speakers. I like the size of the GemXLs. Will the Twos sound much better than GemXLs?

I find it interesting that the DefTech website lists suggested crossover settings for the Two at 100hz and for the GemXL at 80hz. Does this have something to do with the intended use of the GemXL as a surrounds speaker?
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I notice that the aluminum version Mythos line are still marked down. It's making me consider an upgrade to my planned Gems and Seven setup. But I was really thinking about the black models. Is the grill on the silver model as black as the black model, or is it more of a charcoal?

The grills on the aluminum are a charcoal gray color - you could probably buy black replacement grills if you wanted to though.
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I notice that the aluminum version Mythos line are still marked down. It's making me consider an upgrade to my planned Gems and Seven setup. But I was really thinking about the black models...

FWIW, I was able to get a BB/Magnolia manager to sell me a black Three for the same price as the discounted aluminum version. YMMV.
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But I was never sure I would want the tall front speakers. I like the size of the GemXLs. Will the Twos sound much better than GemXLs?

The Twos are a perfect match for the Three (essentially the same, but designed to be installed vertically). The Gem XL's have slightly different drivers (see below) and are quasi-bipolar (i.e. the mid/low drivers face different directions). That doesn't make them a bad match, just different. Some prefer the Gem sound, some don't. The whole Mythos line is designed to mix and match well, so either would be a good choice, depending on your tastes.
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I find it interesting that the DefTech website lists suggested crossover settings for the Two at 100hz and for the GemXL at 80hz. Does this have something to do with the intended use of the GemXL as a surrounds speaker?

No, it has to do with the different drivers employed. Here is what DefTech told me when I asked the same question about the XL's vs the Three:

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"The primary reason for the seeming discrepancy (in frequency response) is that GemXL and the Mythos Three use different mid range drivers. The GemXL uses a better more dynamic driver, designed and engineered more recently then the Mythos Three drivers. This is not reflected on the website anywhere except for the crossover setting specification; however, if you closely examine the photos of the Mythos Three and the GemXL with the grills off you will notice that even from the outside there are noticeable differences..."

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I found this review of the Mythos 2s, 3 and Gem system with SupercubeIII. Though the photo accompanying the review is definitively not the 2, but looks like a Super Tower instead.

http://www.hometheaterreview.com/equ...ewed001233.php
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