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I have never been so thouroughly confused in my life. Whats up with the one speaker in the blue wall, why is there and how does it work in conjunction with everything else??
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I have never been so thouroughly confused in my life. Whats up with the one speaker in the blue wall, why is there and how does it work in conjunction with everything else??

LOL,
the speaker on the blue wall is right surround. The tan wall is the Left surround. The seating position is between the 2.
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I think this may have gotten lost in the ongoing speaker comparison, so just seeing if anyone had opinions on this set up...good for the room size? I need narrow bookshelf fronts due to my HT configuration which is why Mythos Two seemed like a good fit. This is for 85% HT, 15% music.

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Thinking of

L/R Mythos 2
C Mythos 3
Surrounds BP1.2X

Going with dipoles because of my set up and because I like them better then front firing, otherwise I'd get the Gems.

Will prob not start out with a sub because I'm in a small apt with neighbors.

What do you think of this set up for a 12x22' room, where the couch/TV&speakers are 12' apart?

Not sure what receiver yet...probably a Denon 1910.

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A rookie question regarding cables. Ideally I'd be able to run ONE cable from the receiver to the side surrounds, where that cable contains enough for two speakers (is that called "quad" cable?). Then, once that cable has reached the first of the two rear speakers, I'd need to split that off somehow, running a second cable with just two lines to the other side surround.

So, is that quad cable to start? Then, how to split/connect the quad cable to the next step?

Thanks for the help!
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A rookie question regarding cables. Ideally I'd be able to run ONE cable from the receiver to the side surrounds, where that cable contains enough for two speakers (is that called "quad" cable?). Then, once that cable has reached the first of the two rear speakers, I'd need to split that off somehow, running a second cable with just two lines to the other side surround.

So, is that quad cable to start? Then, how to split/connect the quad cable to the next step?

Thanks for the help!

The cable is called a 16-4 or 14-4 depending on the guage. 4 conductor if you will. The colors will be red and black for right channel and white and green for left channel , green being negitive.
What you do is called a "loop". You run the cable to the first speaker, then loop the wire leaving enough to connect the speaker and have alittle extra for repair , then run the wire to the next speaker.
To open the cable , use a high quality Data T stripper. These cutter/strippers have curved blades on them for cutting outer jackets and not damaging the conductors jacket. open up and find the pull string. then use the pull string to open the wire so you have about 6 inches of exposed wires. Mark the "amp end" with an arrow pointing to the amp and on the other side mark " speaker end" pointing at the wire going to the other speaker. This is so you don't lose the signal flow. Cut the correct colors for the speaker you are at and allow the other 2 colors to pass by to the next speaker.
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Thanks so much - that's a big help. I'll have to buy extra length to run the 4 conductor and up and then back down the first speaker stand - and practice some stripping first, seeing as I guess it would be tougher to correct a stripping error made mid cable! I guess I could also just buy 2 conductor - just seemed like 4 conductor would be tidier. Thanks again :-)
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I think this may have gotten lost in the ongoing speaker comparison, so just seeing if anyone had opinions on this set up...good for the room size? I need narrow bookshelf fronts due to my HT configuration which is why Mythos Two seemed like a good fit. This is for 85% HT, 15% music.

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Thinking of

L/R Mythos 2
C Mythos 3
Surrounds BP1.2X

Going with dipoles because of my set up and because I like them better then front firing, otherwise I'd get the Gems.

Will prob not start out with a sub because I'm in a small apt with neighbors.

What do you think of this set up for a 12x22' room, where the couch/TV&speakers are 12' apart.

Not sure what receiver yet...probably a Denon 1910.

Your Mythos set up should serve well, given the constraints you have listed. (I still have my old home theater that used speakers/drivers of this size that filled a room of this size well--speaker placement and seat placement will be important).

However, I don't think you will like the sound of the Mythos as much without a sub--they are deliberately made without a midbass hump, so to sound well, they need a sub. Just my two cents. Good luck!
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Mantis:
Nice setup--your interior decorator has a great sense of style...Can we see more pics of your entire system please?
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As I have said on here over the last couple of days. I have recently purchased:
mythos 5 towers
mythos 7 center
denon 2809CI receiver
supercube 3 sub

I am looking for some speaker wire. I used to just buy monster speaker wire but is there something on the market that is better that will give me the best results from my setup? I don't want to completely break the bank but I want something nice.

thanks
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As I have said on here over the last couple of days. I have recently purchased:
mythos 5 towers
mythos 7 center
denon 2809CI receiver
supercube 3 sub

I am looking for some speaker wire. I used to just buy monster speaker wire but is there something on the market that is better that will give me the best results from my setup? I don't want to completely break the bank but I want something nice.

thanks

Congratulations. Nice setup.

Speaker wire has a mystique, but it's really pretty straightforward. All you need is reasonable quality of the right gauge for the length you are going to use. Here is a chart published by an eminent speaker designer. The kind of speaker wire sold at a home improvement store is fine, or you could buy from some place like MonoPrice. Most of us use much thicker wire than we need to. It isn't really necessary, but it makes us feel good, and doesn't cost much.
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Mantis:
Nice setup--your interior decorator has a great sense of style...Can we see more pics of your entire system please?

My new system is not complete yet but I will show you some evolution pic's over the years.If you notice I change out my system often. I go around the block and then turn left.

Check it out.















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here is a few more.


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Ok just a few more older ones.






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Ok , you got me on a roll but this will be the last until I get the Mythos ST mains installed with the 10 center.




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As I have said on here over the last couple of days. I have recently purchased:
mythos 5 towers
mythos 7 center
denon 2809CI receiver
supercube 3 sub

I am looking for some speaker wire. I used to just buy monster speaker wire but is there something on the market that is better that will give me the best results from my setup? I don't want to completely break the bank but I want something nice.

thanks

I agree with MacFan24--we often overdo things when it comes to speaker wire. That said, I favor bluejeanscable (either 10 or 12 guage depending on your particular application. I also like their connectors--very easy to install and stay put. )
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Mantis--great pix--can't wait for the Mythos to take their rightful place
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As I have said on here over the last couple of days. I have recently purchased:
mythos 5 towers
mythos 7 center
denon 2809CI receiver
supercube 3 sub

I am looking for some speaker wire. I used to just buy monster speaker wire but is there something on the market that is better that will give me the best results from my setup? I don't want to completely break the bank but I want something nice.

thanks

I forgot to mention that I also purchased a Sony VPL-VW50 a couple of months back.

thanks to those who contributed to my inquires about the speaker wire. I just didn't want to overspend on something that may or may not make that much of a difference.
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I forgot to mention that I also purchased a Sony VPL-VW50 a couple of months back.

thanks to those who contributed to my inquires about the speaker wire. I just didn't want to overspend on something that may or may not make that much of a difference.

As long as you use high quality speaker wire of the proper guage, better wire will not make a difference. Many get caught up in brand names and looks, sure high end wire looks cool but there is a point of no more sonic benefits . I have been down the wire path for many years. I have tried so many different kinds of wire and learned a great deal. Many companies make great wire but you have to figure out when enough is enough for the given system. I believe thats the key.
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As long as you use high quality speaker wire of the proper guage, better wire will not make a difference. Many get caught up in brand names and looks, sure high end wire looks cool but there is a point of no more sonic benefits . I have been down the wire path for many years. I have tried so many different kinds of wire and learned a great deal. Many companies make great wire but you have to figure out when enough is enough for the given system. I believe thats the key.

thanks for all the tips. I will buy something of reasonable price and sleep well with my decision. You guys are very thoughtful for sharing your knowledge.
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thanks for all the tips. I will buy something of reasonable price and sleep well with my decision. You guys are very thoughtful for sharing your knowledge.

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Hello All

I have a speaker Q


I have a onkyo tx-sr606 receiver

looking at getting some speaker(5.1)
will use it for(music/HT and gaming)

this is what i want
Mythos 1
mythos 3
350
not sure on sub yet

is this too much for my 606?

would Mythos 4 or a mythos 5 for my front? and the 7 for center be better.

also open to sub suggestions


thanks in advance
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I just bought the following setup:

Mythos Ones for L/R
Mythos Nine for C
Mythos Fours for L/R Surround
Still searching for silver Mythos Gem XLs for L/R Surround Rears
HSU VTF3-MK3 Subwoofer

Is the Nine going to match well as a center with the L/R Ones? What about mixing the Mythos Fours and the Gem XL's for the surround channels? Should I stick with Gems for all surrounds?
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Alright guys I'm almost done with my setup. This is what I'm rocking so far in my apartment living room that is about 11'x12'...

Yamaha RX-V665
B&K Reference 2220
Mythos Ones for the fronts
Mythos Three center
Mythos Gems for the surrounds

I'm definitely looking to get a supercube sometime to replace the old JBL sub I have right now.
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Hello All

I have a speaker Q


I have a onkyo tx-sr606 receiver

looking at getting some speaker(5.1)
will use it for(music/HT and gaming)

this is what i want
Mythos 1
mythos 3
350
not sure on sub yet

is this too much for my 606?

would Mythos 4 or a mythos 5 for my front? and the 7 for center be better.

also open to sub suggestions


thanks in advance


According to Def Tech The Mythos Eight center is the match for the Mythos Ones.

I had the same question, and another poster gave me this same recommendation. Not sure how noticeable the difference would be.

Let us know what you decide and how it works out.

Right now I have a compact Def Tech compact center speaker, and the dialogue is pretty clear.
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do you think the receiver powerful enough?
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do you think the receiver powerful enough?


I think the Mythos Eight rating is 20-250watts. Your receiver should be fine.

Others with more knowledge than I may be able to give better advice on that.
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I am running them off of a Denon 2808 and have no problems pushing them to adequate levels.
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Whats up all?

I just got my fronts today which are the Mythos ST. I got a question and would like to see some pic's of your ST or STS. I wanna see what you are using for wire management. My solution for now is Velcro wrap every few inches. I don't really care for it. I have wire mess covering but the ends frayed up on me trying to get the powercord in there with the speaker wire and line level. Sucked. I was tired and might give it another chance .

So here are a few pic's.






Tell me what you think about the wiring and what you do with yours.

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Whats up all?

I just got my fronts today which are the Mythos ST. I got a question and would like to see some pic's of your ST or STS. I wanna see what you are using for wire management. My solution for now is Velcro wrap every few inches. I don't really care for it. I have wire mess covering but the ends frayed up on me trying to get the powercord in there with the speaker wire and line level. Sucked. I was tired and might give it another chance .

So here are a few pic's.






Tell me what you think about the wiring and what you do with yours.


I think the velcro wrap looks great, nice and clean. Nice pics!
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I'm in need of advise from the Mythos faithful. I have a pair of STS paired with a M10 center in my family room and have been more than happy with them all.

The fire sale prices on silver Mythos has become too much of a temptation and I'm planning on ordering a pair of Mythos One's for front left and right to replace my BP2006's up front in my modest theater room but I need center channel advice.

The Ten is a fantastic center IMO and I know the Eight's are the DT recommendation between One's but for a hundred bucks more I can get a Ten. I'm using BPX surrounds and currently an Outlaw LFM1-EX sub in a 5.1 setup. The sub is headed up for sale and the next sub to audition hasn't quite been decided yet.

This is strictly home theater, football, hockey, and a little HD TV with nothing more in the way of music than occasional background music while doing something else in the room.

I'd appreciate any opinions on using a Ten for a center instead of an Eight. The extra hundred it would cost me, while it is a meaningful amount of money, is fairly insignificant when I look at the long term. The Ten I have now impresses me with it's clarity and ability to deliver crystal clear dialog. I'm just wondering if it would sound "different" from the One's that will be flanking it.
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