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post #3331 of 3345 Old 07-02-2014, 08:55 AM
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Does anyone think the matching center is a bit underpowered? Seems you would have to run a higher crossover just for the center, for example 80Hz for the towers and 100Hz for the center, which is not ideal.

No, the little center is a poor match for the large towers but should be perfect with these smaller ones. You can have the same sub crossover for both.

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It's the same concern I have for the Infinity Primus P362 / PC350 combo. The center looks underpowered. Amazing for the price, but the EMP Impressions look leagues better. What we don't know is which sounds better.

Actually we do know that EMP sounds a bunch better than Infinity.


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Infinity Primus P362 + PC350
$450

EMP E5Ti + E5Ci
$575

The difference is greater because you are comparing a speaker with dealer markup included against one that is manufacturer direct. These speakers aren't in the same league at all.

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Also the Primus are front ported which is a big plus for me, as I can push them back closer to the wall.

You should leave speakers at least a foot from a wall regardless of where the ports are located.
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My understanding is that the e56ci was developed because the smaller sub mixed poorly with the towers. I've always thought that the e56ci and the towers blend really well with each other.

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I agree. We're talking about the small center pictured above and the smaller towers.
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I use to get pretty regular emails/Ads from EMPtek...but haven't gotten one in months. Do they still send email notification of sales, or have I been booted from the list? If they are going to have a July 4th sale, you would think they would have sent a notification by now!
I was hoping to score some gear, but who knows. Maybe they'll have one for Labor Day or as others mentioned, just wait until BF.
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Emailed Brian yesterday asking about any info on the new sub, said they expect it to be ready this winter.

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Anyone have thought about surrounds? the e55 vs the E5B? Is the bipole surround worth 2x the E5bi? My current surrounds are SLS Q Line gold, which have an amazing ribbon tweeter, so very detailed...but can only hit about 110 hz, so they need to be crossed at 120.

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Anyone have thought about surrounds? the e55 vs the E5B? Is the bipole surround worth 2x the E5bi? My current surrounds are SLS Q Line gold, which have an amazing ribbon tweeter, so very detailed...but can only hit about 110 hz, so they need to be crossed at 120.
I use the E5Bi and they have been great, even with less than ideal placement, they still provide a very good enveloping surround effect.

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I watched Lone Survivor this weekend with Mark Whalberg, and I must say this has to be one of the best movies for demoing your surround sound. There is essentially a 90 minute gun fight, and the whole time bullets are whizzing by, explosions are going off, things are ricocheting around you, and your rear channels are really working hard. The movie is quite intense, not only due to the pretty graphic visuals, but the sound immersion puts you right in the middle of the fight.

Definitely a worthwhile $1.50 from RedBox

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Anyone have thought about surrounds? the e55 vs the E5B? Is the dipole surround worth 2x the E5bi? My current surrounds are SLS Q Line gold, which have an amazing ribbon tweeter, so very detailed...but can only hit about 110 hz, so they need to be crossed at 120.

I own a pair of both. I would opt for the bookshelf models.
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I own a pair of both. I would opt for the bookshelf models.


Any particular thought process behind this ? I am debating the same thing.. I currently have E5Bi as L/R but they will eventually be moved to the back once i get the towers. I was considering to get the E55Wi's for the side surrounds and the E5Bi would be the rears in a 7.1 setup. I could save some cash by going all out E5Bi for all 4 surrounds but i was worried that the E5Bi will be blasting surround sounds direct into the ears which might take away from the "transparency" or "envelopment" feeling the surrounds should give.

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Any particular thought process behind this ? I am debating the same thing.. I currently have E5Bi as L/R but they will eventually be moved to the back once i get the towers. I was considering to get the E55Wi's for the side surrounds and the E5Bi would be the rears in a 7.1 setup. I could save some cash by going all out E5Bi for all 4 surrounds but i was worried that the E5Bi will be blasting surround sounds direct into the ears which might take away from the "transparency" or "envelopment" feeling the surrounds should give.
I have the E5Bi for my side surrounds and they do a great job of enveloping me and remaining transparent. I can't sit there and say for certain the sound is coming from this location, they really disappear well.

For example watching Avatar, I can hear creatures moving behind me and sounds all around the room, there isn't a point where I say "there is obviously a speaker there", you just get enveloped.

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Any particular thought process behind this ? I am debating the same thing.. I currently have E5Bi as L/R but they will eventually be moved to the back once i get the towers. I was considering to get the E55Wi's for the side surrounds and the E5Bi would be the rears in a 7.1 setup. I could save some cash by going all out E5Bi for all 4 surrounds but i was worried that the E5Bi will be blasting surround sounds direct into the ears which might take away from the "transparency" or "envelopment" feeling the surrounds should give.
Sounds like you are assuming that speakers have no dispersion. I wish my surrounds would blast. I rarely hear them. To answer your question I think the bookshelf models sound better.
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I agree on lone survivor a very intense film and the surrounds do get a good workout makes you fill you are right in the middle of the action.
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I love the look of a piano finish, but I hate that I can never keep the dust off of it and keep it looking nice. Would I have the same problem with the red burl finish because of the gloss?

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I love the look of a piano finish, but I hate that I can never keep the dust off of it and keep it looking nice. Would I have the same problem with the red burl finish because of the gloss?
The red burl will not be near as bad. The only place you will see dust accumulate is on the top. However, my wife has fixed that by placing a "thingamajig", a decorative white placement mat. The speakers see direct sun light at times & we never see any dust. However my entertainment center is black tempered glass & it's a dust magnet.
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