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I'm thinking of getting the e55ti towers or the Svs ultra towers.I will be adding a svs sub if i get e55ti.My question is will the e55 sound be comparable with a sub.I'm really interested in the e55,.Any advice is most appreciated.
Here you go that should answer your question

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...lharmonic.html
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Talked to Brian and he's sending me a new set of outriggers and feet/nuts.

And I hooked up the speakers to the AVR but haven't done any Audyssey setup yet as the room doesn't yet have all the furniture or the carpet, art on the walls, etc. So it had a bit of echo/hollow sound. I'd like to break in the speakers a bit anyway before I do any Audyssey setup, though I'm not sure it really matters for this purpose.

I have not hooked up the HSU STF-2 sub yet. The speakers are configured as Large in the AVR, no sub. There is bass but it sounds a bit boomy to me. Could be because of the room though or because the speakers are placed only about 8" from the wall while the manual suggests 15".

Anyway, if I want to hook up the sub which I have to try anyway to make sure it actually works (kinda bought it blindly on Craigslist), how should I configure the AVR?
- Large or Small speakers?
- LFE only or LFE+Main if I configure the speakers as Large?
- What's a good crossover to start with? 80Hz?
- Is the sub volume in the middle reasonable or lower?

Again I do not want to spend the time to run Audyssey just yet, just some simple basic setup for the next couple of weeks until the speakers break in some.
A room with no furniture, carpet, nothing on the walls, etc will create problems for any speaker. I wouldn't judge speakers costing 100x as much as these EMP's in a room like that


- Large or Small speakers?
* Some people have used them set to large w/ a sub, but I set them to small with a sub crossed at 80hz (wish AVR's would give you more frequencies to cross at than just the typical 40,60,80,90, etc)

- LFE only or LFE+Main if I configure the speakers as Large?
*LARGE - speaker plays full range signal
SMALL - speaker only plays signal above it's crossover setting

LFE = sub only plays LFE signal and from speakers set to SMALL below their crossover
LFE+MAIN = only applies when front main speakers set to LARGE. In addition to what the LFE setting does, the sub also plays the frequencies below the front main crossover setting (while front mains play full range signal). This setting is known as the "double bass" setting as the front main low bass frequencies are being played by both the front main speakers and the sub as well.

However, when using a sub, you should set all speakers (regardless of physical size or mfr recommendation) to SMALL with a minimum of 80hz crossovers. Doing so it doesn't matter what the sub setting is LFE or LFE+Main , the result is the same.


- What's a good crossover to start with? 80Hz?
* 80hz is generally considered a good point to start. Sadly, like I mentioned above, there isn't many points to set a crossover in most AVR's. It's usually 40hz/60hz/80hz/90hz/100hz/etc. 80hz is most recommended because:

1. top end falls off in most HT subs (ported at pretty low tuning frequency)
2. Resonance can be heard higher up
3. Being able to locate the sub becomes easier the higher the x-over point

There's others..and each or all of these don't apply to every sub


- Is the sub volume in the middle reasonable or lower?
* What do you mean 'in the middle or lower'? Are you talking about the gain knob on the back? Technically that's not a 'volume' knob, but what you'll want to do is to run your room correction (just do it once..aka one mic position) until you get it to come back and say the sub is within a range of -3dB to +3dB. Anything negative (-XdB) means the the AVR is trying to cut the signal to the sub -xdB since the gain knob on the back is too high. Anything positive (+XdB) means the AVR is trying to send more voltage to sub to offset the gain on the back of the sub being too low.

It's been found that most room corrections can be funky with the sub when the range is outside of that -3 to +3 range so it's best to try to get inside that
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I'm thinking of getting the e55ti towers or the Svs ultra towers.I will be adding a svs sub if i get e55ti.My question is will the e55 sound be comparable with a sub.I'm really interested in the e55,.Any advice is most appreciated.
I've had both of these speakers in my house. In my opinion:

- the e55Tis are a bit more neutral / accurate throughout the midrange and lower treble IMO. The SVSes have an upper mid response dip that can be more pleasing on some source material and more "colored"-sounding on others.

- the Ultra towers do have cleaner highs and can handle higher sustained SPLs. They also have much better cabinets in my opinion.

- the midbass on the ultra towers is a bit more punchy, the e55Tis a bit more dry. Even with a subwoofer, you will hear a difference. I can't say which you will prefer. I prefer the more dry bass + sub.

- I would not forgo true subwoofers for deeper extension from mains. But the 4X eight-inch vented woofers on the SVS towers will produce deep, powerful bass. You will need at least a pair of 12" quality subwoofers to match that.
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I've had both of these speakers in my house. In my opinion:

- the e55Tis are a bit more neutral / accurate throughout the midrange and lower treble IMO. The SVSes have an upper mid response dip that can be more pleasing on some source material and more "colored"-sounding on others.

- the Ultra towers do have cleaner highs and can handle higher sustained SPLs. They also have much better cabinets in my opinion.

- the midbass on the ultra towers is a bit more punchy, the e55Tis a bit more dry. Even with a subwoofer, you will hear a difference. I can't say which you will prefer. I prefer the more dry bass + sub.

- I would not forgo true subwoofers for deeper extension from mains. But the 4X eight-inch vented woofers on the SVS towers will produce deep, powerful bass. You will need at least a pair of 12" quality subwoofers to match that.
I will be powering the e55ti with a emotiva upa200.Do you i will get a good spl levels for movies with the e55ti.My ht room is about 16x12.I just want to make sure they can get loud enough to really enjoy movies.
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I will be powering the e55ti with a emotiva upa200.Do you i will get a good spl levels for movies with the e55ti.My ht room is about 16x12.I just want to make sure they can get loud enough to really enjoy movies.
The Upa200 can produce:
(rated power; THD < 0.05%):
125 watts / channel (8 ohms; all channels driven)
200 watts / channel (4 ohms; all channels driven)

In a 16x12 room, this is plenty of power for a pair of 88db speakers. You will probably be able to hit 100db unclipped at over 8 feet away - this is 5db below reference. And no, you don't want to listen at reference in that room unless you want to cover it in hundreds of dollars of absorption and you've got multiple 18 inch subs that plumb the depths.

100db is a very loud peak and allows for an average volume level of about 80db during movies. Generally people are satisfied with ~75db as the speech level. If speech is hard to hear, the first thing I would recommend rather than trying to get the speakers louder is to lower the noise floor of the room itself.

Now are the e55Tis your only option? Certainly not.
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A room with no furniture, carpet, nothing on the walls, etc will create problems for any speaker. I wouldn't judge speakers costing 100x as much as these EMP's in a room like that


- Large or Small speakers?
* Some people have used them set to large w/ a sub, but I set them to small with a sub crossed at 80hz (wish AVR's would give you more frequencies to cross at than just the typical 40,60,80,90, etc)

- LFE only or LFE+Main if I configure the speakers as Large?
*LARGE - speaker plays full range signal
SMALL - speaker only plays signal above it's crossover setting

LFE = sub only plays LFE signal and from speakers set to SMALL below their crossover
LFE+MAIN = only applies when front main speakers set to LARGE. In addition to what the LFE setting does, the sub also plays the frequencies below the front main crossover setting (while front mains play full range signal). This setting is known as the "double bass" setting as the front main low bass frequencies are being played by both the front main speakers and the sub as well.

However, when using a sub, you should set all speakers (regardless of physical size or mfr recommendation) to SMALL with a minimum of 80hz crossovers. Doing so it doesn't matter what the sub setting is LFE or LFE+Main , the result is the same.


- What's a good crossover to start with? 80Hz?
* 80hz is generally considered a good point to start. Sadly, like I mentioned above, there isn't many points to set a crossover in most AVR's. It's usually 40hz/60hz/80hz/90hz/100hz/etc. 80hz is most recommended because:

1. top end falls off in most HT subs (ported at pretty low tuning frequency)
2. Resonance can be heard higher up
3. Being able to locate the sub becomes easier the higher the x-over point

There's others..and each or all of these don't apply to every sub


- Is the sub volume in the middle reasonable or lower?
* What do you mean 'in the middle or lower'? Are you talking about the gain knob on the back? Technically that's not a 'volume' knob, but what you'll want to do is to run your room correction (just do it once..aka one mic position) until you get it to come back and say the sub is within a range of -3dB to +3dB. Anything negative (-XdB) means the the AVR is trying to cut the signal to the sub -xdB since the gain knob on the back is too high. Anything positive (+XdB) means the AVR is trying to send more voltage to sub to offset the gain on the back of the sub being too low.

It's been found that most room corrections can be funky with the sub when the range is outside of that -3 to +3 range so it's best to try to get inside that
Thank you for your detailed reply.
Yes, by sub volume I meant the gain knob on the back. I have an SPL meter from Radioshack from a few years ago and if it still works, I can run a quick test to get the sub aligned with the speakers as a starting point for Audyssey.

I should also mention that the living room area where the setup lives is all tile (though it will have a rug at some point but not where the sub/speakers are). I read in the sub manual that it should fire on carpet not on hard floors. I suppose I need to source a piece of carpet now or should I instead get an isolation pad such as the Auralex SubDude?
The acoustics of this room turn out to be a pain, as it's a very open floor living room area
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More updates (and questions) on the towers. I hooked up the HSU STF-2 sub to help them and it does make a huge difference. I don't like loud bass, but rather clean, tight bass and the sub delivers. It certainly sounds much better to me with the sub. I have them configured like this (no calibration, just by ear):
Speaker size: Small
Crossover: 80Hz
Sub setting: LFE only (LFE+Main would probably not make a difference with Small speakers in this case -- correct?)
Sub gain knob: at about 10 o'clock (so under 50%)

I also tried Large speakers, sub set to LFE+Main, same 80Hz crossover and the setup sounded decent, but I figured why stress the speakers, free them up to do their job up in the highs and let the sub do the heavy lifting.

And my question ... the AVR is a Denon S900W and under Speakers/Bass there's an option "LPF for LFE" with a range 80-250Hz (default was 120Hz). This has nothing to do with the speaker crossover, right? It only applies to the true LFE channel on for example 5.1 material, not on stereo music. And I assume it doesn't have to match the speaker crossover. Is the default 120Hz a good default? I'm not sure what kind of frequency range is normal for the LFE channel.
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I thought I'd let people here know that I've finished my audition of the EMP Tek E5Bi bookshelf speakers. I have decided to keep them. For a detailed review on what I really think of these speakers, I've added a review here on AVS. If interested, you can find it here: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/dbtrev...4850&ri=review

For one of the best amateur reviews I've read on these speakers, you can find it on Amazon. It is presently the only review on Amazon. It's well worth the read: http://www.amazon.com/product-review...owViewpoints=1
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More updates (and questions) on the towers. I hooked up the HSU STF-2 sub to help them and it does make a huge difference. I don't like loud bass, but rather clean, tight bass and the sub delivers. It certainly sounds much better to me with the sub. I have them configured like this (no calibration, just by ear):
Speaker size: Small
Crossover: 80Hz
Sub setting: LFE only (LFE+Main would probably not make a difference with Small speakers in this case -- correct?)
Sub gain knob: at about 10 o'clock (so under 50%)

I also tried Large speakers, sub set to LFE+Main, same 80Hz crossover and the setup sounded decent, but I figured why stress the speakers, free them up to do their job up in the highs and let the sub do the heavy lifting.
I found with the E55Tis, when crossing them over "small" at 80hz, I got superior in-room results by plugging ONE of the two vents.
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Emp owners,
I am not an Emp owner yet, but very close to becoming one:
I am putting together my HT in the basement (24 X 16).

Here is what I ordered up till now:
Projector BenQ W1070 $729 - ORDERED

Subwoofer SVS PB-2000 $799 - ORDERED

Receiver Denon AVR-X2100W $699 - ORDERED

Speakers: considering
EMP E55Ti | EMP E56Ci/5Ci | EMP E5Bi

Based on your experience, wanted few suggestions:
1. based on the rest of the set up, do you think EMPs would work for me? I was also looking at bostons RS334 / RS244c / A25.
2. If i go with Emps, would you suggest with E56Ci or would E5ci would be fine, considering my room size?
3. For the rear/surround, would you suggest any other speakers that go well with the Emps LCR or should i stick with the E5Bi?

My first HT, so nervous ordering the Emps since I havent heard them :-)

Would appreciate your inputs.
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1. based on the rest of the set up, do you think EMPs would work for me? I was also looking at bostons RS334 / RS244c / A25.
I think the EMPs are will work very well.

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2. If i go with Emps, would you suggest with E56Ci or would E5ci would be fine, considering my room size?
I would get the e56Ci. However before that, I would strongly considering phantom center usage and adding the center afterwards if you feel it necessary. The E55Tis do very well in anchoring the sound to the screen on their own in stereo IMO. I find centers kind of redundant already, and actually I ended up removing my E5Ci from my front stage as the sound was simply more natural / pleasing in stereo.

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The E5Bis are fine surrounds. You might be able to save some money going B-stock.
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Thanks a lot for the input.
How do I get the B stock?
Don't see anything on the website.
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How do I get the B stock?
Don't see anything on the website.
I think you have to sign up for it so you're notified when something pops up:

http://emptek.com/clearance_lot.php

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Thanks a lot for the input.
How do I get the B stock?
Don't see anything on the website.
Instead of B- stock, wait for Black Friday deals- they have historically had great sales... If you can hold out a couple months
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Instead of B- stock, wait for Black Friday deals- they have historically had great sales... If you can hold out a couple months
Yeah.. thought about that.. but naah.. cannot hold out for that long
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Instead of B- stock, wait for Black Friday deals- they have historically had great sales... If you can hold out a couple months
Great tip. I was going to buy the center (I already have the towers and enjoy them), but I can wait. Yes, the towers do fine in phantom center mode. I hope the center goes on sale.
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Alright, so i will wait on the center speaker as someone suggested here and get the 2 towers and the surrounds. Will wait for Black friday for the center.

Thanks for the responses. I am ready to pull the trigger
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Alright, so i will wait on the center speaker as someone suggested here and get the 2 towers and the surrounds. Will wait for Black friday for the center.

Thanks for the responses. I am ready to pull the trigger
The purpose of the center channel is to localize the dialog for people sitting off axis from the screen. If you don't sit off axis it is probably better not to have a center channel because most of them don't integrate particularly well.
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Great tip. I was going to buy the center (I already have the towers and enjoy them), but I can wait. Yes, the towers do fine in phantom center mode. I hope the center goes on sale.
For what it's worth, I picked up the Center last year during their Thanksgiving sale for almost $100 off. So that is definitely a good time to make the jump. I need another set of the EMP bipoles (I've got 2 already, I need to replace the rear surrounds), and I'm thinking Thanksgiving is very likely when I'll jump.

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The E56CI is not cheap at all, I hope it is a very good center.
And it's huge too, which means that I have to hang the TV on the wall, it would not work in front of the TV on the stand.
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I thought I'd let people here know that I've finished my audition of the EMP Tek E5Bi bookshelf speakers. I have decided to keep them. For a detailed review on what I really think of these speakers, I've added a review here on AVS. If interested, you can find it here: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/dbtrev...4850&ri=review

For one of the best amateur reviews I've read on these speakers, you can find it on Amazon. It is presently the only review on Amazon. It's well worth the read: http://www.amazon.com/product-review...owViewpoints=1
Mr Russell, an excellent review of the speakers! nice work, I just might have to get me a set of the bookshelf speakers!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, Outlaw LFM1 Plus sub, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
Set up #3: JBL130, JBL120C and Klipsch synergy sub
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I assume that EMP discontinued there on wall speakers when they dropped the 10i10i sub? Was going to pick up a set for my living room theater, but I guess not...

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, Outlaw LFM1 Plus sub, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
Set up #3: JBL130, JBL120C and Klipsch synergy sub
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So, i finally went ahead and ordered the Emps..

Projector BenQ W1070 $729 - ORDERED

Subwoofer SVS PB-2000 $799 - ORDERED

Receiver Denon AVR-X2100W $699 - ORDERED

Speakers: EMP E55Ti / EMP E5Bi $920 - ORDERED


Officially an EMP owner now

I held back on the center EMP E56Ci. Will see how it goes without them and then wait for thanksgiving to see if i get a good deal.

Thanks for all the advise and suggestions.
I will probably be back for placement questions

Cant wait for the babies to arrive...
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rahulp001: Congratulations! I hope these speakers are all that you hoped they will be. It has to be worrisome when buying in the blind, but at least you have 30 days to see if you will keep them or send them back.

Elihawk: Thank you for the compliment. It is much appreciated .
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Hey, guys:

Long-time, intermittent lurker here...intermittent because whenever I start browsing the AVS forums for too long, I end up spending $$$. Geez.

I'll never be able to afford $20k speakers (and even if I were wealthy, not sure I would spend that much on audio gear!) and my house doesn't have the square footage for anything extreme, so when I read the positive reviews about the EFBi's, it was hard to resist. So I bought them along with the smaller center channel and a refurbed Denon from Accessories4Less (hadn't heard of them, either). My setup was pushing ten years old, so I figured it was time for an upgrade.

After getting everything set up today, I had to break out some of my test subjects (Bladerunner boxed set, Star Wars, LoTR, etc). And, man, watching the trench run in "A New Hope" with everything cranking was almost like being a kid back in the theater ca. 1977. H*ll yeah. Heck, even SpongeBob and Teen Titans sound awesome (judging by my five year olds' sudden intense and unwavering attention to the screen--they've seen these shows dozens of times). I wasn't expecting such an improvement. I imagine as my kids get older and more acclimated to movies, we'll get even more use out of this setup.

Anyway, wanted to thank you guys for your always invaluable posts, especially for the indirect info they provide to lurkers like me.

Cheers,
Andrew
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So, i finally went ahead and ordered the Emps..

Projector BenQ W1070 $729 - ORDERED

Subwoofer SVS PB-2000 $799 - ORDERED

Receiver Denon AVR-X2100W $699 - ORDERED

Speakers: EMP E55Ti / EMP E5Bi $920 - ORDERED


Officially an EMP owner now

I held back on the center EMP E56Ci. Will see how it goes without them and then wait for thanksgiving to see if i get a good deal.

Thanks for all the advise and suggestions.
I will probably be back for placement questions

Cant wait for the babies to arrive...
That's getting pretty close to my setup. I've got the SVS pc12+ paired with my EMP's. I've been thrilled, the SVS does a great job of covering the lows where the EMP's struggle.
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That's getting pretty close to my setup. I've got the SVS pc12+ paired with my EMP's. I've been thrilled, the SVS does a great job of covering the lows where the EMP's struggle.
Indeed. The towers need some help "down there". I paired them with the HSU STF-2 and it takes the towers to the next level.
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So, i finally went ahead and ordered the Emps..

Projector BenQ W1070 $729 - ORDERED

Subwoofer SVS PB-2000 $799 - ORDERED

Receiver Denon AVR-X2100W $699 - ORDERED

Speakers: EMP E55Ti / EMP E5Bi $920 - ORDERED


Officially an EMP owner now

I held back on the center EMP E56Ci. Will see how it goes without them and then wait for thanksgiving to see if i get a good deal.

Thanks for all the advise and suggestions.
I will probably be back for placement questions

Cant wait for the babies to arrive...
That's getting pretty close to my setup. I've got the SVS pc12+ paired with my EMP's. I've been thrilled, the SVS does a great job of covering the lows where the EMP's struggle.
Good to know.. hopefully should get them next week.
Do you have the center and if so which one? I am not putting the center for now, may be later when I can spend some more..
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I have the e56 center. Since you have gone with the e55 towers, if you plan on getting the center I would stick with the larger e56.

I've also got a pair of the e55wi (I need another pair and then all my speakers will be Emp) surround speakers. So far I've been thrilled with all of my Emp products and really can't recommend then enough.

AVR: Denon 2112
Speakers: EMP Tek e55ti, Center- EMP Tek e56ci, Side Surrounds- EMP Tek e55wi, Rear Surrounds- SVS Prime Satellites, Sub- SVS PC12 Plus
Display: BenQ w1070 on a 92in fixed screen
Blu-Ray Player: Sony BDP S6200;
Playstation 4, Apple TV, Harmony Remote
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I have the e56 center. Since you have gone with the e55 towers, if you plan on getting the center I would stick with the larger e56.

I've also got a pair of the e55wi (I need another pair and then all my speakers will be Emp) surround speakers. So far I've been thrilled with all of my Emp products and really can't recommend then enough.
Will wait for the holiday sale to get the center and you are right makes sense to go with the e56ci with the towers.
Still don't have the Emps but I was thinking of auditioning the bookshelves as fronts and then compare to the towers and see how much of an upgrade the towers are. If the bookshelves are good enough maybe I send back the towers and get all e5bi for all 5 channels.

Btw, is there a break in period for these speakers. I am coming from a HTiB so I am clueless
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