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post #4141 of 5132 Old 12-20-2014, 06:32 PM
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Napski, wait and talk to EMP, but the way they pack their boxes, I would be real suprised if the speaker is damaged in any way.
I actually found another hole on the other side of the box just now that I didn't see. That one I can put my fingers in and touch the speaker again. Damn.
I will speak to Emp Tek on Monday since they are closed.

They have had excellent customer service up until this point, so I have hope
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Napski, wait and talk to EMP, but the way they pack their boxes, I would be real suprised if the speaker is damaged in any way.
Seconded, what I received from EMP was VERY well shipped. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the speaker is in perfect operating and cosmetic shape.

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I actually found another hole on the other side of the box just now that I didn't see. That one I can put my fingers in and touch the speaker again. Damn.
I will speak to Emp Tek on Monday since they are closed.

They have had excellent customer service up until this point, so I have hope
Ask them to add an extra box if they can and switch to UPS or someone else. It looks like Fedex in your area likes to hit boxes.
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What are people using to mount their centers to the wall? I have the R5Ci. Suggestions and pictures welcome.

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They're going to ask you to take the speaker out and inspect it. Just do it now. No point in waiting really. You have proof it was boxed that way. Hell, if you're that worried, which you shouldn't be with RBH's customer service, take a video to prove you didn't tamper with it while taking it out and inspecting it

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What are people using to mount their centers to the wall? I have the R5Ci. Suggestions and pictures welcome.
It vents back, you don't want to mount it to the wall.
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It vents back, you don't want to mount it to the wall.
Well yeah I know that, I wouldn't put it directly up against the wall.

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Here's pictures of my friend's Paradigm Studio 60 next to E55ti. He thinks both sounded equally good.
Have you seen anyone done this? He uses the E55ti as main and put the Studio 60 as surround, permanently Not kidding. Does this make sense?
E55ti = $477/pair (main)
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Are you sure he's not pulling your leg. I love my EMPs, but those Paradigms are mighty fine speakers. It seems a waste to use them as surrounds.
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Wouldn't be the first time I've heard someone say the r55ti is quite close to Paradigm Studio towers. In my case it was the 100v5 he was referring to. If you look at the measurements for the 60v5, they're pretty similar to the r55ti. The RBH might have a little more in the midrange though

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Amen to that, brother!

To add to the great suggestions by ousooner2, also try adjusting the crossover for your EMPs/RBHs. My Denon set the crossover to 60 for mine, which may technically be correct, but they sounded boomy at that level. Still deciding what crossover I prefer, but it's somewhere between 90 and 120. Above 120 and I start losing the midrange detail.
I just received my R55Tis and R56Ci and I couldnt be happier. My Denon x4000 Auddisy also set the crossovers at 60Hz, which is way too low. The speakers roll off quickly below 100Hz, which is where I manually set them at. Any lower and they are clearly overdriven. Also, my x4000's volume can go to max, and these still have more room to go. Looks like ill be buying an amp next. I hate AVS forum for all its solid deals and great advice, it makes me spend too much money.
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They will be just fine with an 80 x-over. I've played them at reference with a 60hz x-over a few times on pink noise, etc to see what kind of distortion or excursion I'd get and I found that 80hz sounded a little less strained to me. 100hz is fine too, but it's going to be that much easier to localize a sub or subs and you're getting rather high in the passband unless you have a sub that can play up that high very cleanly.

By the way, I hate how AVR's only give you 60,80,100. I want increments of 5! Thought about picking up a mini-dsp a few days ago, but I just don't have time to do everything with it.

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Still haven't broken my R55Ti's and R56Ci in. Have so far enjoyed them for moderate movie listening.

However, I did get around to throwing in my original Jesus and Mary Chain - Automatic CD for a listening. Wow. Stepping away from 320Kbps MP3's and getting back to real quality audio can be astonishing at times...especially with a CD that was recorded for quality, not for volume. I'm listening without a sub, but the R55Ti's had a rather full sound. Really really close the sound I was chasing with my original aim of Studio 100's. Not the same, but very close for the price. I'm not sure they'll be quite as impressive on the home theater front, but still more than content for the price.

I'll look forward to really evaluating them after i move and can supplement with a subwoofer.
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napski, did you every get EMP and what was their reponse?

I have a freind who is wanting the Sonos 5.1 soundbar surround system and I am trying to giver her some other options, since I doubt the Sonos is quality audio and pretty expensive (1,800-2,000 dollars). I know the Focal sib system can be had for 450 right now and a few other smaller speaker system, like the CA minx. has anyone on here actaully heard the EMP Cinema 5 system? The drivers are small (3 inch), but probably no smaller than the Sonos and the sub will kick the Sonos to the curb!

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, EMP owners!
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Are you sure he's not pulling your leg. I love my EMPs, but those Paradigms are mighty fine speakers. It seems a waste to use them as surrounds.
I don't know. Every time I visit his house his Paradigm surrounds always sits there. He said he got used to the EMP's sound.
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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, EMP owners!
Thanks, Elihawk . And wishing you and yours a great Christmas as well.

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, EMP owners!
Thanks Eli same to you and Merry Christmas to everyone else as well.

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, EMP owners!
To you and everyone here as well. Best holiday wishes all.

And here's to your holiday music never sounding as good as it does now!
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Merry Christmas everyone!

I've opened my new E56Ci. Wow! Big boy, its size caught me by surprise, gotta mount the TV on the wall to make room for it. Put the center on its side and it can be mistaken for a tower
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Are you sure he's not pulling your leg. I love my EMPs, but those Paradigms are mighty fine speakers. It seems a waste to use them as surrounds.

I have yet to hear a pair of $2000/pair speakers that sound as good as my E55 towers with tweeter upgrade. If you ignore bass response, I haven't heard anything better at $3000 per pair either. Ignoring bass response, by the way, is perfectly fine if you employ a subwoofer.


I think people get fooled because they compare prices rather than sound. EMP has no dealers so you eliminate the dealer markup making it an unfair comparison.
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Color me a new EMP Tek fan boy. On a whim, I picked up a pair of the R55 towers on sale for a dedicated 2 channel room I'm putting together. I have them paired with a pair of the Monoprice home theater subs. Not since my Dahlquist DQ10's have I been as happy with the sound of a set speakers. I can't imagine there being anything out there that approaches the EMP Tek's for the money.
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crn, welcome to the EMP club. pictures always welcome...
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Finally got the chance to get things dialed in (Equipment list in sig) Was able to get everything wired, get my placement set up, crossovers, and even ran Audyssey. Decided to pop in The Lone Survivor (Very good movie) It was fun. I still think I need to tinker a bit but for the most part I think I have it how I want it. Before I had ran it in 2.1 with no Audyssey or anything. Adding the center alone was a big difference. The dialogue is sooo good and it just tied everything together. Movies/music will be fun again. After my receiver had died a little while back I was just using the TV speakers and it's been rough. Spent more than I wanted to originally on everything than I really wanted to but I don't regret it at all.
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mounting R55Wi

I have my R55Wi speakers as rears and I'd like to move them to be side surrounds, since I don't have anything setup for side at this point. They are rear because there was an easy shelf to place them on and sides will require wall mounting.

Are they any mounting options for them besides hanging them from the wall with the keyhole mounts? It seems like it would be hard to angle them downward that way.

My room is narrow at the listening position, only 8' wide. Will they be too close if they are only 2' or so away from a listener?

As rears, they are 9' back and about 4' apart. I think they're more of a rear channel than a surround channel in this position.
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has anyone talked to Brian at EMP recently? Is it really going to be march before they have more E/R5Bi in stock? Second, has anyone heard anything about the new Impression series sub that was suppose to be released?

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Haven't talked to Brian, but I'd bet it'll be that long before they get more in. Maybe a little before that, but it'll be awhile I'd assume. I'd just e-mail him at the end of each month to see what it's looking like.

The new Impression series sub...no idea. It'll be a ported 12, but unless they pull off some magic..it'll be hard to beat the ID companies that specialize in subs. I'd love nothing more than a pb-1000 on steriods for about $425ish. Maybe a tad less so people don't jump up to $500-550 and get something else. I'd also like to see it tall instead of 25"+ deep. I can't stand these subs that are 20" tall, but 27" deep. Height is easy to place, depth is usually the deal breaker for most. They got it perfect with their sx-1212, but no way am I paying for that right now haha. The boss was good to me this x-mas so I gave some thought about picking up a pair of sx-1212's and the sx-6300/r, but figured I'd just wait instead of making an impulse buy. Probably better to wait for a dedicated theater room too

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Ok, I am back from a short vacation and am about to open my speakers, but I still do not have a receiver yet.

I was going to settle on one of two receivers and just needed a little advice. Just to let you know, I chatted with Mike from Accessories4Less about suggesting a good receiver that would compliment these speakers (I have 2 towers, 1 center, 2 surrounds, 2 bookshelves and a SVS sub for a 7.1 system). I plan to use it for movies, blu-rays, video games and music (my tastes from music vary from rock, electronic, occasional classical and jazz).

1.) Denon 4520CI - This is the receiver that Mike suggested based on the specs of the speakers. It's Denon's flagship receiver and can be bought for about $1100 marked down from $2500. He said for my tastes, it would do these speakers justice, but it's a lot more to pay than what I intended.

2.) Yamaha Aventage RX-A1030BL - I can get this today at Bestbuy as an open box deal (it was a display item), excellent condition and 3 year warranty for $500.

I did have a Yamaha previously and although it was very reliable it never really captivated me as far as sound was concerned. It did it's job, plain and simple. I've heard that this Denon was amazing, but at $600 more I wasn't sure if it was worth it. If anything, I can hold onto this Yamaha until that price comes down, pick it up then and try it out. If it is indeed better, then I'll just sell the Yamaha (or if it goes down within 30 days, I can take it back to Bestbuy). Although I did read also that Yamaha was a bit more difficult to set up with YAPO than Denon.

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in which Audioholics look at the Emp Tek's, which are driven by an earlier version of this Yamaha, the RX-A1020 and the reviewer said it was very good, yet on their site they recommended a Denon to go with their Emp Tek suggested set.

Lastly, I was curious about wiring. 12 gauge, 16 gauge? Bluejeans or Monoprice or does it really matter? My room is 26" long, 13" from screen to couch and 8" tall.

Thanks again and an Happy New Year to you all!!!

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Blind listening test have shown that people cannot hear differences between cheap and expensive amps, if everything is working correctly and you have enough power- so you are buying features and not some much SQ. However, room correction software can make a difference. I have a Denon (1613) and a Yamaha reciever (v373) and I prefer the Yamaha, but for no real reason. The room correction on the Denon is better, but YAPO is fine as well!
If it were me, I would save the money and get the cheaper AV-r, since it will be outdated (likely) in 5 years anyway!
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Blind listening test have shown that people cannot hear differences between cheap and expensive amps, if everything is working correctly and you have enough power- so you are buying features and not some much SQ. However, room correction software can make a difference. I have a Denon (1613) and a Yamaha reciever (v373) and I prefer the Yamaha, but for no real reason. The room correction on the Denon is better, but YAPO is fine as well!
If it were me, I would save the money and get the cheaper AV-r, since it will be outdated (likely) in 5 years anyway!
Thanks very much for the response Elihawk and I sincerely believe you are right. I am probably going to go for the Yammy just on price alone, for now.
If I see a heck of deal on that Denon that I can afford, then I might go for it since I heard that the correction software on the Denon's is the real deal. But

Also, I am opening up the speaker boxes today.
Yes, it's been a bit but I was away for a bit.

Thanks again!

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Audyssey brought these speakers to life for me. Now any AVR at any price without Audyssey would be a significant downgrade.
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