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post #4141 of 4163 Old 12-20-2014, 07:32 PM
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Napski, wait and talk to EMP, but the way they pack their boxes, I would be real suprised if the speaker is damaged in any way.
I actually found another hole on the other side of the box just now that I didn't see. That one I can put my fingers in and touch the speaker again. Damn.
I will speak to Emp Tek on Monday since they are closed.

They have had excellent customer service up until this point, so I have hope
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Napski, wait and talk to EMP, but the way they pack their boxes, I would be real suprised if the speaker is damaged in any way.
Seconded, what I received from EMP was VERY well shipped. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the speaker is in perfect operating and cosmetic shape.

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I actually found another hole on the other side of the box just now that I didn't see. That one I can put my fingers in and touch the speaker again. Damn.
I will speak to Emp Tek on Monday since they are closed.

They have had excellent customer service up until this point, so I have hope
Ask them to add an extra box if they can and switch to UPS or someone else. It looks like Fedex in your area likes to hit boxes.
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What are people using to mount their centers to the wall? I have the R5Ci. Suggestions and pictures welcome.

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They're going to ask you to take the speaker out and inspect it. Just do it now. No point in waiting really. You have proof it was boxed that way. Hell, if you're that worried, which you shouldn't be with RBH's customer service, take a video to prove you didn't tamper with it while taking it out and inspecting it

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What are people using to mount their centers to the wall? I have the R5Ci. Suggestions and pictures welcome.
It vents back, you don't want to mount it to the wall.
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It vents back, you don't want to mount it to the wall.
Well yeah I know that, I wouldn't put it directly up against the wall.

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Here's pictures of my friend's Paradigm Studio 60 next to E55ti. He thinks both sounded equally good.
Have you seen anyone done this? He uses the E55ti as main and put the Studio 60 as surround, permanently Not kidding. Does this make sense?
E55ti = $477/pair (main)
Studio 60 = $2340/pair (surround)




Are you sure he's not pulling your leg. I love my EMPs, but those Paradigms are mighty fine speakers. It seems a waste to use them as surrounds.
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Wouldn't be the first time I've heard someone say the r55ti is quite close to Paradigm Studio towers. In my case it was the 100v5 he was referring to. If you look at the measurements for the 60v5, they're pretty similar to the r55ti. The RBH might have a little more in the midrange though

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Amen to that, brother!

To add to the great suggestions by ousooner2, also try adjusting the crossover for your EMPs/RBHs. My Denon set the crossover to 60 for mine, which may technically be correct, but they sounded boomy at that level. Still deciding what crossover I prefer, but it's somewhere between 90 and 120. Above 120 and I start losing the midrange detail.
I just received my R55Tis and R56Ci and I couldnt be happier. My Denon x4000 Auddisy also set the crossovers at 60Hz, which is way too low. The speakers roll off quickly below 100Hz, which is where I manually set them at. Any lower and they are clearly overdriven. Also, my x4000's volume can go to max, and these still have more room to go. Looks like ill be buying an amp next. I hate AVS forum for all its solid deals and great advice, it makes me spend too much money.
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They will be just fine with an 80 x-over. I've played them at reference with a 60hz x-over a few times on pink noise, etc to see what kind of distortion or excursion I'd get and I found that 80hz sounded a little less strained to me. 100hz is fine too, but it's going to be that much easier to localize a sub or subs and you're getting rather high in the passband unless you have a sub that can play up that high very cleanly.

By the way, I hate how AVR's only give you 60,80,100. I want increments of 5! Thought about picking up a mini-dsp a few days ago, but I just don't have time to do everything with it.

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Still haven't broken my R55Ti's and R56Ci in. Have so far enjoyed them for moderate movie listening.

However, I did get around to throwing in my original Jesus and Mary Chain - Automatic CD for a listening. Wow. Stepping away from 320Kbps MP3's and getting back to real quality audio can be astonishing at times...especially with a CD that was recorded for quality, not for volume. I'm listening without a sub, but the R55Ti's had a rather full sound. Really really close the sound I was chasing with my original aim of Studio 100's. Not the same, but very close for the price. I'm not sure they'll be quite as impressive on the home theater front, but still more than content for the price.

I'll look forward to really evaluating them after i move and can supplement with a subwoofer.
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napski, did you every get EMP and what was their reponse?

I have a freind who is wanting the Sonos 5.1 soundbar surround system and I am trying to giver her some other options, since I doubt the Sonos is quality audio and pretty expensive (1,800-2,000 dollars). I know the Focal sib system can be had for 450 right now and a few other smaller speaker system, like the CA minx. has anyone on here actaully heard the EMP Cinema 5 system? The drivers are small (3 inch), but probably no smaller than the Sonos and the sub will kick the Sonos to the curb!

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, EMP owners!
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Are you sure he's not pulling your leg. I love my EMPs, but those Paradigms are mighty fine speakers. It seems a waste to use them as surrounds.
I don't know. Every time I visit his house his Paradigm surrounds always sits there. He said he got used to the EMP's sound.
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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, EMP owners!
Thanks, Elihawk . And wishing you and yours a great Christmas as well.

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, EMP owners!
Thanks Eli same to you and Merry Christmas to everyone else as well.

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, EMP owners!
To you and everyone here as well. Best holiday wishes all.

And here's to your holiday music never sounding as good as it does now!
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Merry Christmas everyone!

I've opened my new E56Ci. Wow! Big boy, its size caught me by surprise, gotta mount the TV on the wall to make room for it. Put the center on its side and it can be mistaken for a tower
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Are you sure he's not pulling your leg. I love my EMPs, but those Paradigms are mighty fine speakers. It seems a waste to use them as surrounds.

I have yet to hear a pair of $2000/pair speakers that sound as good as my E55 towers with tweeter upgrade. If you ignore bass response, I haven't heard anything better at $3000 per pair either. Ignoring bass response, by the way, is perfectly fine if you employ a subwoofer.


I think people get fooled because they compare prices rather than sound. EMP has no dealers so you eliminate the dealer markup making it an unfair comparison.
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Color me a new EMP Tek fan boy. On a whim, I picked up a pair of the R55 towers on sale for a dedicated 2 channel room I'm putting together. I have them paired with a pair of the Monoprice home theater subs. Not since my Dahlquist DQ10's have I been as happy with the sound of a set speakers. I can't imagine there being anything out there that approaches the EMP Tek's for the money.
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crn, welcome to the EMP club. pictures always welcome...

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, Outlaw LFM1 Plus sub, EMP 10i10i sub
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Finally got the chance to get things dialed in (Equipment list in sig) Was able to get everything wired, get my placement set up, crossovers, and even ran Audyssey. Decided to pop in The Lone Survivor (Very good movie) It was fun. I still think I need to tinker a bit but for the most part I think I have it how I want it. Before I had ran it in 2.1 with no Audyssey or anything. Adding the center alone was a big difference. The dialogue is sooo good and it just tied everything together. Movies/music will be fun again. After my receiver had died a little while back I was just using the TV speakers and it's been rough. Spent more than I wanted to originally on everything than I really wanted to but I don't regret it at all.

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