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I agree, fronts are more important. I used my Polk 40s as surround for a couple of years with the emp up front. All 9 speakers are now EMP (2 subs with height). I had the Polks on the floor to cut down on gratuitous sports surround sounds. The e5bi are up at ear height, so comparison is difficult.

I take an evolutionary approach to my sound system. Something is always changing. At this point, I may move the sub location, then do room treatment. I have the sub right front and rear left, but may try putting them left and right toward the middle of the seating area.
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When I listen to music, I just prefer stereo mode...so no compelling reason for me to have EMP brand surround...excpet they are about the best quality you can buy/find at that price range!

Speaking of subwoofers, has anyone else experienced doing the sub crawl, only to find the crawl tell you to put the sub right in the middle of the room, where it is completely impractical!? I had to compromise the position of the sub...
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I agree about the value of EMP. The sound quality and looks make it difficult to beat at the price range.
I have heard stories about doing sub crawl and having the ideal position be in the middle of the room. I have not done the sub crawl yet because I am upgrading my sub soon. But I cannot place sub in middle of the room either, unless I turn it into a coffee table by placing a granite countertop on top. IMO, it's a reason why dual sub setup is easier. Just place the subs near the middle of opposite walls and you're done.
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I agree, fronts are more important. I used my Polk 40s as surround for a couple of years with the emp up front. All 9 speakers are now EMP (2 subs with height). I had the Polks on the floor to cut down on gratuitous sports surround sounds. The e5bi are up at ear height, so comparison is difficult.

I take an evolutionary approach to my sound system. Something is always changing. At this point, I may move the sub location, then do room treatment. I have the sub right front and rear left, but may try putting them left and right toward the middle of the seating area.
I've been reading that Audyssey incorrectly boosts volume of the surrounds and that you should use a reference level offset to bring them back in line. Maybe that's what's happening?
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Speaking of subwoofers, has anyone else experienced doing the sub crawl, only to find the crawl tell you to put the sub right in the middle of the room, where it is completely impractical!? I had to compromise the position of the sub...
No doubt that sub location can be just plain weird. One cannot guess where it might sound the best, without doing the sub crawl test. For me, it showed that the two places to my left where I initially wanted to place my sub (to the left of my front-left speaker and along the wall to my left) and inline with the couch were nulls. To the right of my right-front speaker was the second best place to locate my sub, about a foot from the back wall (most people tell you get it much closer to the wall, but for me that didn't work so well). The best place was at the right and centered in my bay window about 4-5 feet away from the center bay window … meaning it would stick out like a soar thumb in a location that I would never place a sub.

Strangely (or not) my other sub (for movies) was kind of opposite the sub in my living room. Again there were two good places to locate a sub. The best location was not to the right of my front-right speaker like it was in the other room, but to the left of my left-front speaker (here I was able to place it around 6 inches from the wall). The second best spot was to the right along a wall (in line with my couch). The worst place was to the right of my front-right speaker in the corner. It was the worst bloated bass I have ever heard. I often hear people say that the best location is in a corner for bass boost. In my situation, it was flat-out the worst.
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my logic leads me to these or the Chanes
I like the EMP ones that I now own for the design of the rounded style cabinets,being a function greater than form kind of guy
a sound comparison of both music and theater use would be fun
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I've been reading that Audyssey incorrectly boosts volume of the surrounds and that you should use a reference level offset to bring them back in line. Maybe that's what's happening?
I have a Yamaha, it uses YPAO, not Audyssey. My wife rearranged the furniture and I moved the speakers, so I'm not in an optimal setup yet. Integrating a 60" tv where there was a 42" is difficult!
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Well, my 14 x 24 inch basement theater definately doesn't need more bass, with both the Outlaw and the EMP10i10i kicking it, so I am not looking for a bass boast! I had people try to arguing against using the two subs with different spec in the same room, but I have the gain slight "enhanced" on the EMP and slightly down on the oulaw and find they complement each other well. Much like the EMP Impression speakers, the subwoofer is excellent in the midbass range and adds excellent clarity and detail, while the Outlaw can provide the low and the loud!
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Well, my 14 x 24 inch basement theater
Virtual theater?
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Virtual theater?
Yea, I guess I better lose some weight...and height!
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cozy space especially for this midwest winter
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I've always wondered what the minimum space is for a theater. I have a small room that I use for an office. I was thinking of putting a 4k tv on one wall and a loveseat really close. I think it's 9x5.
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Well, my 14 x 24 inch basement theater definately doesn't need more bass, with both the Outlaw and the EMP10i10i kicking it, so I am not looking for a bass boast! I had people try to arguing against using the two subs with different spec in the same room, but I have the gain slight "enhanced" on the EMP and slightly down on the oulaw and find they complement each other well. Much like the EMP Impression speakers, the subwoofer is excellent in the midbass range and adds excellent clarity and detail, while the Outlaw can provide the low and the loud!
My understanding is that using mismatched subs isn't a problem if you're willing to put in the extra work and dial then both in. Also you needs subs that are at least somewhat comparable. I ran my SVS PC12-Plus with my old BIC F12 for maybe a day. The poor BIC just couldn't keep up.
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considering involving the effort of removing the grills
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I've always wondered what the minimum space is for a theater. I have a small room that I use for an office. I was thinking of putting a 4k tv on one wall and a loveseat really close. I think it's 9x5.
Would make for a personal IMAX theater
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The tough thing would be fitting the 10 foot screen!
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The tough thing would be fitting the 10 foot screen!
Sounds like a good case for a curved screen, don't know how that works but our IMAX uses one.
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Speaker of screen, anyone know the video quality difference between and white screen and a black one? Any?
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I had an exercise bike 3' from my 106" screen, just past the point where I could see the pixels. It really felt like imax. The wife made me put it away!
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Has anyone tried to repair chips to the Red Burl finish? My overly enthusiastic dog knocked on of my e5Ti over when I first got it and for some reason, it was bothering me last night. Got a small chip in the top of one of the speakers, so just wondering if anyone has found a good method to cover that chip?
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Has anyone tried to repair chips to the Red Burl finish? My overly enthusiastic dog knocked on of my e5Ti over when I first got it and for some reason, it was bothering me last night. Got a small chip in the top of one of the speakers, so just wondering if anyone has found a good method to cover that chip?
Maybe give them a call. I do know even the black speakers scratch super easy. I am just glad I scratched the back of the surrounds that are mounted to the wall.
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Well according to Brian, they should be releasing their new sub today. Hopefully they are still on schedule, but that was the case 2 weeks ago. Hoping it's something that competes in that $500-600 range, the discontinued es1010i seemed to fair well against the heavyweights at that price, so here's to hoping. I have been itching to grab a new sub, but would love to get one that matches my speakers.
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Nothing new listed on thier web site...I too have been wanting to retire both of the crappy klipsch subs I own, want a good accurate sub, but don't need a monster like I do in my theater room. The new EMP sub might fit the bill perfectly...anyone want to buy a Klipsch Rw12d?
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It's up now. $529

Are they going to do a 12 too? Seems pricey for a 10"

http://emptek.com/s10.php

• 10" (254mm) Aluminum Cone Subwoofer
• Amplifier Type: Class D
• Voltage: 110 and 220
• Power Handling: 150 Watts
• Crossover Frequencies: 40-150Hz (variable)
• Frequency Response: 32Hz-150Hz (variable)
• LFE Input: Yes
• LFE Output: No
• Line Level Input: Yes
• Speaker Level Inputs: No
• Speaker Level Outputs: NO
• Phase Control: Yes (Auto On/Off)
• 13" W x 15-1/2" H x 16-1/2" D
(330mm W x 394mm H x 419mm D)
• Weight 19.25 lbs. (8.73 kg.)
• Cabinet Color: Black
• Grille Color: Black
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And they have some b stock

http://emptek.com/bstockclearance.php

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It's up now. $529

Are they going to do a 12 too? Seems pricey for a 10"

http://emptek.com/s10.php

• 10" (254mm) Aluminum Cone Subwoofer
• Amplifier Type: Class D
• Voltage: 110 and 220
• Power Handling: 150 Watts
• Crossover Frequencies: 40-150Hz (variable)
• Frequency Response: 32Hz-150Hz (variable)
• LFE Input: Yes
• LFE Output: No
• Line Level Input: Yes
• Speaker Level Inputs: No
• Speaker Level Outputs: NO
• Phase Control: Yes (Auto On/Off)
• 13" W x 15-1/2" H x 16-1/2" D
(330mm W x 394mm H x 419mm D)
• Weight 19.25 lbs. (8.73 kg.)
• Cabinet Color: Black
• Grille Color: Black
Those have been on there, the S-8, S-10, and S-12. They are just existing RBH subs from what I can tell, I don't see the new Impression sub yet. It also will be designed to match the Impression series, so we will see piano black and red burl options.
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Here is what Brian emailed me this morning..

We are coming out with a newsubwoofer for the impression line. It is a single 12 and should be readyaround the end of the month.

Also, I emailed him to ask about the red Burl touch up and here is his answer for that:

The best thing to cover up anydings is a brown sharpie. Yes Sharpie and it does have to be Sharpiebrand. It won’t be gloss but the color will match perfectly. If youneed to add gloss you can always use clear nail polish.
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Here is what Brian emailed me this morning..

We are coming out with a newsubwoofer for the impression line. It is a single 12 and should be readyaround the end of the month.

Also, I emailed him to ask about the red Burl touch up and here is his answer for that:

The best thing to cover up anydings is a brown sharpie. Yes Sharpie and it does have to be Sharpiebrand. It won’t be gloss but the color will match perfectly. If youneed to add gloss you can always use clear nail polish.
Well darn, it keeps getting pushed back. I remember last year it was supposed to ready for the holidays, then early 2015, then the first of March, now the end of March
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