Originally Posted by sicride
As you can see on this page the frequency response is listed as 35-150hz +/-3dB. I am also disappointed by that spec. Again, with all this information being clearly inaccurate to a degree... Who knows?
Or is this going to be marketed as a music subwoofer with extremely low distortion but no extension?
That spec for the 'normal' I-12 is pretty bad if that's true. The EMP e1010i (dual 10" w/ 250rms amp) had a 30hz (+/- 3dB) lower end. It will definitely flirt with 30hz with good authority in my room, which is quite large and open (12' ceilings too). I have dual e1010i's...so that helps. Still, 35hz as the +/- 3dB point is pretty bad for a $500, 12" with a 350rms amp and that large of a ported enclosure. I just don't get it. I'm REALLY hoping the specs are incorrect, but I have no idea why they wouldn't say lower if it could indeed go lower.
..here's to hoping the larger amp can help it get a little more excursion and louder if the specs are off a little.
I'm sure both will be very nice sounding subs. The e1010i sounds incredible for the price you pay. Much better than any $300-400 sub I've ever heard.
Originally Posted by Elihawk
Well, despite my dissapointment at the web site and the price listing of these subs, the track record of EMP is to put out a great value for the price, so I am going to reserve judgement until I hear a review. Sooner, you still planning on reviewing? And if so, which sub...
Just wondering for some of you who may have DIY in the past, would the difference in cost of a 350 watt versus a 500 watt warrant the 200 dollars difference in price? And shouldn't a 12 inch/500 watt sub with three ports hit lower than 35 hz?
If I review one or both is up to RBH. I hope so! Brian said he'll talk to everyone and see what they can do. Again, I can only imagine that a review with lots of pictures, comparisons to the e1010i, etc can only help their cause. I'm sure they have good shipping prices being a business so I doubt it'd cost them much.
I will say that the price you see likely isn't the price you'll pay around their sales. I think the e1010i was $499 or $450, but you could get it for $350ish. Hell of a sub for that price!
You'd think a 12" with 500rms and a large ported enclosure would hit lower than that for sure. With that amount of port length is has to be tuned somewhat low! Unless those 3 ports are all like 4" long haha. Again..something a review could identify and point out.
Originally Posted by smcmillan2
Not without some DSP capability, no. Or maybe if it's one of the ICE amps - http://www.minidsp.com/products/plat...pwr-ice-series
. But still, 350W coupled with the correct enclosure/driver would be plenty for most. I set the limiter on the build in my sig to 200W to avoid over excursion, it can shake the whole house at 10 below reference and has an F3 of ~18Hz.
All depends on enclosure/driver/tuning point. Would need the T/S specs for the driver to know what the optimum internal volume and port tune would be, not likely to get those from the manufacturer. Maybe if Data-Bass gets their hands on one...
The specs provided give me the impression (no pun intended) that these subs are built for music, not necessarily HT.
Data-bass would be nice! You could plot it against all the other subs they've reviewed, etc.