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I believe the entire Impression series was on sale last year as well. I think the R55Ti towers were in the mid-high $200 price range each. I'm hoping to grab SOMETHING from Emp this Black Friday.

Trans, I wish more movies took advantage of surrounds, I mean...my HTDs are feeling lonely sometimes
Man at $200 each that is just a steal! Let's hope they have another big sale, they usually sell out so I would imagine that's something they want to keep doing.

And yeah aside from Lone Survivor/Edge of Tomorrow, there isn't much that puts them to good use. The opening scene in Star Trek (2009) was fantastic though, it's one I use to demo for people who are curious how it sounds.

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Man at $200 each that is just a steal! Let's hope they have another big sale, they usually sell out so I would imagine that's something they want to keep doing.

And yeah aside from Lone Survivor/Edge of Tomorrow, there isn't much that puts them to good use. The opening scene in Star Trek (2009) was fantastic though, it's one I use to demo for people who are curious how it sounds.
I didn't mean $200 even per tower. They were mid to high $200s. I just can't remember the exact number from a year ago.

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Man at $200 each that is just a steal! Let's hope they have another big sale, they usually sell out so I would imagine that's something they want to keep doing.

And yeah aside from Lone Survivor/Edge of Tomorrow, there isn't much that puts them to good use. The opening scene in Star Trek (2009) was fantastic though, it's one I use to demo for people who are curious how it sounds.
One movie that has suprising good use of surrounds is 2012. Lots of stuff going on behind me in that movie...
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I got the small towers, supposedly b stock before they discontinued them, not on sale, just clearance. Avrant podcast was singing their praises, saying they were $225. I went to the site expecting that was the per speaker price, but it was for a pair, shipped! In the cart and in the house a week later. No regrets there...
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I think the 55Ti's were ~$260/ea last BF.
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I got the small towers, supposedly b stock before they discontinued them, not on sale, just clearance. Avrant podcast was singing their praises, saying they were $225. I went to the site expecting that was the per speaker price, but it was for a pair, shipped! In the cart and in the house a week later. No regrets there...
I think I paid 250/pr, but absolutely no regrets!

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I think I paid 250/pr, but absolutely no regrets!
That's a silly good deal! I got my E55Ti's during their first Black Friday sale IIRC, and they were $420/pair I think, basically 50% off at the time. I ended up paying about the same for my center as I did both towers

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I have essentially 625 dollars in my HT 5.0... 250/pr for the e5ti, 200 for the e5ci and 180/pr for the e5bi. I have had the Ascend Acoustic CMT340 and my Phil- BMR in my HT for a careful A/B and didn't think either was better for HT- for some reason, the clarity of the RAAL ribbon tweeter for music gets lost in, or just isn't as big a plus in dynamic movies. Short of spending $2000 plus, I don't see a meaningful upgrade for HT.

Don't get me wrong, the Phil- BMR are amazing for music
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I have essentially 625 dollars in my HT 5.0... 250/pr for the e5ti, 200 for the e5ci and 180/pr for the e5bi. I have had the Ascend Acoustic CMT340 and my Phil- BMR in my HT for a careful A/B and didn't think either was better for HT- for some reason, the clarity of the RAAL ribbon tweeter for music gets lost in, or just isn't as big a plus in dynamic movies. Short of spending $2000 plus, I don't see a meaningful upgrade for HT.

Don't get me wrong, the Phil- BMR are amazing for music
Yeah it will take a pretty big investment to make a meaningful upgrade, perhaps DIY in a dedicated space down the road.

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War of the Worlds, the machine emerges scene, 10/10.

I could swear there was something below me moving around... still my favorite demo scene of all time.

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I am really considering getting the Impression line to replace my Energy Take front right, front left, and center. I'm pretty sure I am getting the R5bi for the left and right, but I am a bit confused on what to do with the center. Through research it has come to my attention that a vertical speaker will sound better than a horizontal one. It sounded like a joke to me a first, but it seems true.

With that said, is it really true that a vertical R5bi will sound better than a horizontal R5ci (their center channel speaker) for a center channel? It seems like a dedicated center would be better, but everything that I've read states otherwise. Would this line be any different? Am I crazy???
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I used an identical front stage (all R5Bi's). I even turned one R5Bi on its side as a center channel and it works great. The reason is that the R5Bi has both a wide and high soundstage (higher than the R55Ti towers). The dedicated center channel (R5Ci) has an MTM configuration, which will limit the horizontal axis, but not the vertical axis. It's up to you which one you might prefer.

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I am really considering getting the Impression line to replace my Energy Take front right, front left, and center. I'm pretty sure I am getting the R5bi for the left and right, but I am a bit confused on what to do with the center. Through research it has come to my attention that a vertical speaker will sound better than a horizontal one. It sounded like a joke to me a first, but it seems true.

With that said, is it really true that a vertical R5bi will sound better than a horizontal R5ci (their center channel speaker) for a center channel? It seems like a dedicated center would be better, but everything that I've read states otherwise. Would this line be any different? Am I crazy???
The horizontal MTM center speaker is a compromise in itself. It's designed to fit into smaller places because a vertical center channel is not practical because of space. A vertical speaker would usually block the TV, or not fit into an entertainment center. You are more specifically describing a horizontal MTM designed center channel. The issues are usually combing and lobbing, which results in a less precise timbre match (in a nut shell).

If you have the advantage that you can pull your center channel out of an entertainment center and place it on top, you are doing good. I have my TV wall mounted, so like you, I am able to accommodate a much larger center both horizontally and vertically. The E56Ci center channel is a 3-way design. Because of the driver alignment, it doesn't completely solve stated issues, it just helps minimize them. Most people think that they don't notice an issue with horizontal MTM designs, but physics, planes, and wave theory prove otherwise. That being said, a horizontal MTM center placed on top of the entertainment center will probably not show any drastic problem. If you have some type of room correction in your receiver, then I wouldn't worry about it. I would give EmpTek a call and see if they can sell you a single R5Bi bookshelf because these speakers are advertised as being sold in pairs.

However, with Black Friday coming up, which EmpTek usually participates in, I would wait and grab the beefier of center speakers. A good, strong, and potent center channel is a must in HT. Unfortunately, it's also the most difficult to deal with. I'm actually in the process of trying to dump my entertainment center completely and get two component shelves so I can place a tower as a center speaker.

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War of the worlds, apparently that is a movie I need to pick up. Some of the early, older action movies have decent soundtracks and pretty good LFE, but you can hear that it is pretty generic...thinking in particular of Indepedance day, which I watched recently!I guess some movie have been re-release with upgraded soundtracks...

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Thanks for the help drussell and bgtighe23! So, if the design is a compromise, why doesn't EMP just sell the R5bi as a center as well? That way if it's upright or on its side, it sounds great. Other companies do this. Is it a marketing tool? Just curious why they feel the need to design a dedicated center if the R5bi will sound better no matter how it's oriented. This is what I'm struggling to grasp.
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War of the worlds, apparently that is a movie I need to pick up. Some of the early, older action movies have decent soundtracks and pretty good LFE, but you can hear that it is pretty generic...thinking in particular of Indepedance day, which I watched recently!I guess some movie have been re-release with upgraded soundtracks...
I'm not sure if they re-released it, I just have the DVD which has a DTS 5.1 audio track. The bass really is impressive, even at -15dB my entire room was shaking, I had to turn it down so I didn't bother anyone too much

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Thanks for the help drussell and bgtighe23! So, if the design is a compromise, why doesn't EMP just sell the R5bi as a center as well? That way if it's upright or on its side, it sounds great. Other companies do this. Is it a marketing tool? Just curious why they feel the need to design a dedicated center if the R5bi will sound better no matter how it's oriented. This is what I'm struggling to grasp.
They are like every other company. It’s a matter of money. If they can sell you a $200 center channel vs. $112 bookshelf speaker, why not? And like most companies, they sell speakers by the pair. I contacted Brian at EMP Tek and he gladly sold me a single for $112.50 (including shipping). It came in the same box as a pair of R5Bi speakers, so they just filled one side with paper packing. Personally, I think most people simply don't try it, so EMP Tek gets very few requests for a single R5Bi. Before I ordered a center channel, I turned one of the left/right speakers on its side and tested it out. I then did it for the other speaker, then both speakers. I could tell no discernible difference.

Also note that everyone is different in what they expect out of a center channel. As long as I have no problem hearing dialog (I still may not understand what the heck they are saying if they have heavy accents or are mumbling), I’m happy. Others want the biggest and baddest center channel they can get. It’s a personal choice thing. Heck, I’ve just completed auditioning the R55Ti towers and used my little R5Bi as a center channel and I’m happy with the results. I may try out their big center channel to test out, but it would have to be a big improvement for me to switch.

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LOL, brought up in another thread, Odyseey audio has a two way tower for 3000/pr. If essentially has a 160.00 Scanspeak 7 inch woofer, a scanspeak done tweeter for 166.00 and the rest for cabinet, bracing and cross over? Holy markup, batman. Just wonder what the parts/final cost for the EMP is versus the Odessey Lorelei.

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LOL, brought up in another thread, Odyseey audio has a two way tower for 3000/pr. If essentially has a 160.00 Scanspeak 7 inch woofer, a scanspeak done tweeter for 166.00 and the rest for cabinet, bracing and cross over? Holy markup, batman. Just wonder what the parts/final cost for the EMP is versus the Odessey Lorelei.

http://www.odysseyaudio.com/products-lorelei.html
Well, shipping 190 pounds of large speakers isn't going to be cheap. At that price, shipping better be included.

That crossover is an eyesore to look at.

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That speaker is a bookshelf speaker in a tower body!

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That speaker is a bookshelf speaker in a tower body!
A lot of tower speakers are 2-way designs. But at that price? I would except a 3-way design.

But yes, I agree. You could literally make a bookshelf version without changing a single component - just less low end.

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Every time I get on here, it's like one step forward, two steps back. You all kill me! Every time I get new info, I research and then I second guess myself and end up with more questions. Ha! It's fun! I was really sold on the E5bi, but after discovering that another E5bi would be better as a center than the dedicated E5ci center, I researched a little more. So, this is what I'm trying to replace my front three Energy Take Classics with.

Elac B5: Supposedly great. However, from what I've read they have a small sweat spot/sensitive to positioning. Also, are 6 ohm. 8 ohm may be better for my Denon x1100w.

E5bi: Nothing but great reviews. However, the design of the center is supposedly not as good as just using a E5bi as a center channel. However, I would have to put it on its side, which can not work. I have shelf attached to my tv and the curved edge would make it fall off or not point where it should.

HVL-1: New to the list and what I'm probably leaning toward. Supposedly outstanding mids. Port in the front which gives them a lot of flexibility for positioning. Designed so the the center channel is the same speaker as the front left and right. From what I've read from the developers, putting it on its side as center produces virtually the same sound.

It seems like everyone groups these three speakers together. I wish I could have found a comparison of the E5bi and HVL-1. Any thoughts? Am I approaching this right?
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Every time I get on here, it's like one step forward, two steps back. You all kill me! Every time I get new info, I research and then I second guess myself and end up with more questions. Ha! It's fun! I was really sold on the E5bi, but after discovering that another E5bi would be better as a center than the dedicated E5ci center, I researched a little more. So, this is what I'm trying to replace my front three Energy Take Classics with.

Elac B5: Supposedly great. However, from what I've read they have a small sweat spot/sensitive to positioning. Also, are 6 ohm. 8 ohm may be better for my Denon x1100w.

E5bi: Nothing but great reviews. However, the design of the center is supposedly not as good as just using a E5bi as a center channel. However, I would have to put it on its side, which can not work. I have shelf attached to my tv and the curved edge would make it fall off or not point where it should.

HVL-1: New to the list and what I'm probably leaning toward. Supposedly outstanding mids. Port in the front which gives them a lot of flexibility for positioning. Designed so the the center channel is the same speaker as the front left and right. From what I've read from the developers, putting it on its side as center produces virtually the same sound.

It seems like everyone groups these three speakers together. I wish I could have found a comparison of the E5bi and HVL-1. Any thoughts? Am I approaching this right?
You cannot go wrong with any of the speakers on your list. However, I have the E5ci center and it sound terrific! of course, all horizontal center speakers have some potential issues and three identical towers or bookshelves are always prefered, but some time screen or TV set do not allow the space.

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Every time I get on here, it's like one step forward, two steps back. You all kill me! Every time I get new info, I research and then I second guess myself and end up with more questions. Ha! It's fun! I was really sold on the E5bi, but after discovering that another E5bi would be better as a center than the dedicated E5ci center, I researched a little more. So, this is what I'm trying to replace my front three Energy Take Classics with.

Elac B5: Supposedly great. However, from what I've read they have a small sweat spot/sensitive to positioning. Also, are 6 ohm. 8 ohm may be better for my Denon x1100w.

E5bi: Nothing but great reviews. However, the design of the center is supposedly not as good as just using a E5bi as a center channel. However, I would have to put it on its side, which can not work. I have shelf attached to my tv and the curved edge would make it fall off or not point where it should.

HVL-1: New to the list and what I'm probably leaning toward. Supposedly outstanding mids. Port in the front which gives them a lot of flexibility for positioning. Designed so the the center channel is the same speaker as the front left and right. From what I've read from the developers, putting it on its side as center produces virtually the same sound.

It seems like everyone groups these three speakers together. I wish I could have found a comparison of the E5bi and HVL-1. Any thoughts? Am I approaching this right?
It’s easy to get the R5Bi set on its side and pointing to the main listening position at around ear level. I have it setting on a glass shelf and I placed 4 small circular furniture pads underneath. As far as the R5Ci not working well, it should work fine. While the tweeter’s effectiveness may be marginally reduced width-wise, it will present a nice presence height-wise.

The ELAC B5 is a nice speaker. It has a bit deeper bass response (very solid) and a good midrange response (I ever so slightly preferred the R5Bi). I felt the high end could be improved (I think the R5Bi has a very good high end), but it wasn’t bad by any stretch. I found it enjoyable. I haven’t listened to the HVL-1, so cannot comment, other than what I’ve heard by owners.

You may be over-thinking all this. No one knows what type of sound you may prefer. And since all the speakers you’ve mentioned are highly thought of, I doubt you’d make a mistake with any of them. Just pick one pair and order it. If you don’t like it, send it back. If you do like it, order a speaker for the center channel.

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It’s easy to get the R5Bi set on its side and pointing to the main listening position at around ear level. I have it setting on a glass shelf and I placed 4 small circular furniture pads underneath. As far as the R5Ci not working well, it should work fine. While the tweeter’s effectiveness may be marginally reduced width-wise, it will present a nice presence height-wise.

The ELAC B5 is a nice speaker. It has a bit deeper bass response (very solid) and a good midrange response (I ever so slightly preferred the R5Bi). I felt the high end could be improved (I think the R5Bi has a very good high end), but it wasn’t bad by any stretch. I found it enjoyable. I haven’t listened to the HVL-1, so cannot comment, other than what I’ve heard by owners.

You may be over-thinking all this. No one knows what type of sound you may prefer. And since all the speakers you’ve mentioned are highly thought of, I doubt you’d make a mistake with any of them. Just pick one pair and order it. If you don’t like it, send it back. If you do like it, order a speaker for the center channel.
I did a couple of swaps with the B5's and R5Bi's tonight and the low end on the B5's is amazing compared to the R5Bi's. However, the high end is much more present and clear on the R5Bi's. Going straight from the R5Bi to the B5, the B5's sounded very dull. But after walking away and letting my ears adjust I thought the B5's still sounded really good. There is definitely less high end on the B5, though.

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I did a couple of swaps with the B5's and R5Bi's tonight and the low end on the B5's is amazing compared to the R5Bi's. However, the high end is much more present and clear on the R5Bi's. Going straight from the R5Bi to the B5, the B5's sounded very dull. But after walking away and letting my ears adjust I thought the B5's still sounded really good. There is definitely less high end on the B5, though.

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In my two short listening sessions at the Newport audio show, I found the overall sound of the speaker very surprising and enjoyable. Its bass response was deep and solid, nothing muddy. Caught a lot of people off guard, considering the size of the speaker. It was one of the hits at the audio show, which is full of very expensive and esoteric speakers. But one can't make an accurate judgment at a show, like one can do at home. Still, I was very happy to see another quality speaker reach the market.

I found that while the R5Bi's don't have a deep bass response (during my tests it was solid down to around 57 Hz, before beginning to drop off), what's there is very well controlled. I believe I read where the B5's can hit the mid or upper 40's Hz level! Since I incorporate a subwoofer, I wasn't looking for depth, but wanted the bass to be clean. I think where the R5Bi's begin pulling ahead is in the upper midrange and high end, but the fact is, both are very good sounding speakers. I'd be happy to own either one.

I'm also happy to see that you are auditioning both speakers. I enjoy reading people's impressions of these two fine speakers. There are a lot of people looking forward to your impressions everywhere on AVS, not just the ELAC or EMP Tek threads. Getting that kind of quality sound so inexpensively isn't easy to do. Hats off to ELAC and RBH/EMP Tek. Enjoy your auditions, and no matter which you choose, I know you'll have excellent sound in your home.

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I did a couple of swaps with the B5's and R5Bi's tonight and the low end on the B5's is amazing compared to the R5Bi's. However, the high end is much more present and clear on the R5Bi's. Going straight from the R5Bi to the B5, the B5's sounded very dull. But after walking away and letting my ears adjust I thought the B5's still sounded really good. There is definitely less high end on the B5, though.

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mark.hayes, this is amazing! Thank you for taking the time to do this! You made my decision between the B5 and R5Bi much easier. By any chance, have you ever listened to the Wave Crest Audio HVL-1? Looking for a comparison on those, which I haven't come across yet.
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It’s easy to get the R5Bi set on its side and pointing to the main listening position at around ear level. I have it setting on a glass shelf and I placed 4 small circular furniture pads underneath. As far as the R5Ci not working well, it should work fine. While the tweeter’s effectiveness may be marginally reduced width-wise, it will present a nice presence height-wise.

The ELAC B5 is a nice speaker. It has a bit deeper bass response (very solid) and a good midrange response (I ever so slightly preferred the R5Bi). I felt the high end could be improved (I think the R5Bi has a very good high end), but it wasn’t bad by any stretch. I found it enjoyable. I haven’t listened to the HVL-1, so cannot comment, other than what I’ve heard by owners.

You may be over-thinking all this. No one knows what type of sound you may prefer. And since all the speakers you’ve mentioned are highly thought of, I doubt you’d make a mistake with any of them. Just pick one pair and order it. If you don’t like it, send it back. If you do like it, order a speaker for the center channel.
I am over thinking it! I do that with everything. It's my strength and my curse. Ha! I just know which ever one I pick, I ll be so excited to get and listen to, I'll probably just keep and not return them. That's why I'm just trying to make the best decision before hand, which you and many others have helped me out with. I appreciate it. Sigh, back at it...
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I am over thinking it! I do that with everything. It's my strength and my curse. Ha! I just know which ever one I pick, I ll be so excited to get and listen to, I'll probably just keep and not return them. That's why I'm just trying to make the best decision before hand, which you and many others have helped me out with. I appreciate it. Sigh, back at it...
I sometimes over think things as well. That’s why I mentioned it . I just had the EMP Tek R55Ti towers in my home for evaluation. Since I test every speaker I audition with music first and foremost, and in 2.0 mode, I almost didn’t give the towers a fair shake. I felt the R5Bi’s were superior for music, but these speakers will be used for 95% movies and TV (I have a separate music system in another room). It was when I began testing the towers with a subwoofer and for movies, did I begin to appreciate them more.

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mark.hayes, this is amazing! Thank you for taking the time to do this! You made my decision between the B5 and R5Bi much easier. By any chance, have you ever listened to the Wave Crest Audio HVL-1? Looking for a comparison on those, which I haven't come across yet.
I haven't listened to the HVL-1s but wish I could. That is the one other bookshelf I would really like to audition. I still may try to twist my wife's arm into letting me.

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