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Has anyone heard anything new about when the new Impression series will be released? Seems like "early 2016" was discussed at some point, but considering how long it took to get the subwoofer released, that might be a stretch!
Only info I have seen is what has been posted here, but it will be interesting to see where they go with it.

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What I'd be interested in is some Atmos up-firing toppers from EMP. I'm not exactly holding my breath though.
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What I'd be interested in is some Atmos up-firing toppers from EMP. I'm not exactly holding my breath though.
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My guess is a deeper cabinet for sure to help with clean output where the current R55Tis start to loose some composure.

I wouldn't be surprised if to offset the cost, they took away the top midrange driver to save money on cabinet materials, another driver, and shipping. Then add a larger midrange and bass drivers?

It would be super awesome if they released a Ribbon version! A golden ribbon, the Red Burl finish and silver and/or black drivers would be a killer combination. What an eye catcher that would be.

Anyone else have any predictions on changes to the current R55Ti?

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My guess is a deeper cabinet for sure to help with clean output where the current R55Tis start to loose some composure.

I wouldn't be surprised if to offset the cost, they took away the top midrange driver to save money on cabinet materials, another driver, and shipping. Then add a larger midrange and bass drivers?

It would be super awesome if they released a Ribbon version! A golden ribbon, the Red Burl finish and silver and/or black drivers would be a killer combination. What an eye catcher that would be.

Anyone else have any predictions on changes to the current R55Ti?
I would love a ribbon version! I thought I read somewhere in the RBH Owner's thread that they were going to add start using a ribbon in some of their speakers, but I am not 100%. Maybe we can bother Brian into giving us some spoilers

Also with the backing of RBH now, development might be a bit quicker than it was with the sub. They were transitioning from EMP to RBH and I would bet that put a lot of things on hold.

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If EMP could find a way to keep the excellent midrange and integrate a ribbon tweeter and still keep the speakers under 1000/pr, that would be a fantastic speaker!

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If EMP could find a way to keep the excellent midrange and integrate a ribbon tweeter and still keep the speakers under 1000/pr, that would be a fantastic speaker!
I would buy a pair on day 1 hah!

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Dang, new speakers in early '16 possibly? Was really thinking of picking up the current towers and large center to try out. Might have to wait to see if there's a sale on the old line or possibly if the new one is worth the upgrade.

Wish I would have learned about these before black Friday to catch that sale.

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Dang, new speakers in early '16 possibly? Was really thinking of picking up the current towers and large center to try out. Might have to wait to see if there's a sale on the old line or possibly if the new one is worth the upgrade.

Wish I would have learned about these before black Friday to catch that sale.
Well right now it's only a rumor, and it's very possible that we don't see these until late 2016 or early 2017. The current speakers are fantastic though and offer a ton of value, no one is sure if these will replace the current Impression series or act as a more expensive option.
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Well right now it's only a rumor, and it's very possible that we don't see these until late 2016 or early 2017. The current speakers are fantastic though and offer a ton of value, no one is sure if these will replace the current Impression series or act as a more expensive option.
Any idea if they run regular sales or is it a once a year black Friday type sale on the towers that I just missed?

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I would buy a pair on day 1 hah!
Did you read the news post on the Homepage about Emotiva's new line of...everything haha

Those towers look extremely enticing.

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Any idea if they run regular sales or is it a once a year black Friday type sale on the towers that I just missed?
They have had spring sales in the past, usually the black Friday sale is the big one, but it wasn't as good of a sale this year.
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Did you read the news post on the Homepage about Emotiva's new line of...everything haha

Those towers look extremely enticing.
Yeah I am anxious to see that new line of speakers! I might need to pick up some of those bookshelves to try out.

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Anxiously awaiting my speaker delivery... The days are going by slowly, ordered a pair of burl tower speakers during BF sale. Anyone else waiting for goodies from EMT/RBH?

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Sorry, Taxman, can't help you out, but it will be worth the wait. I did see the other day that another RBH product is for sale on the EMP web site, the SX series. The tower looks identical to the e55Ti, so I assume the e55Ti is the cheaper cousin that was modeled after the RBH sx6300. 975/per speaker.

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Anxiously awaiting my speaker delivery... The days are going by slowly, ordered a pair of burl tower speakers during BF sale. Anyone else waiting for goodies from EMT/RBH?
Nothing from EMP coming my way this year, but I know that wait well. You'll be very pleased with your purchase when the speakers arrive.

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Anxiously awaiting my speaker delivery... The days are going by slowly, ordered a pair of burl tower speakers during BF sale. Anyone else waiting for goodies from EMT/RBH?
I order a set of the tower in black ash during the BF sale. I haven't received any confirmation that they have been shipped yet. I was hopping to get them before Christmas but i don't think that will happen.
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Anxiously awaiting my speaker delivery... The days are going by slowly, ordered a pair of burl tower speakers during BF sale. Anyone else waiting for goodies from EMT/RBH?
I also ordered towers, big center and 4 bookshelf speakers on BF and haven't heard anything yet.
This is the last email from RBH last Thursday:

"Unfortunately I don’t have any better information now than I did when you placed the order.  I have shipped everything I have in stock and am waiting on my resupply.  My resupply should have been here in October but was help up in Shipping and Customs.  I expect it any day now.  Once we get our resupply we will have to put the speakers together which can take some time.  We do expect to be able to have your order out in the next couple of weeks.  I just can’t give you an exact time frame."

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When I ordered mine there was a several month long delay on the burl color. It's the reason I ultimately ended up with black speakers instead.

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When I ordered mine there was a several month long delay on the burl color. It's the reason I ultimately ended up with black speakers instead.
Yeah I ordered mine in November and got them a week before Christmas.

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Just received an email today that the parts are in, and they would fill orders first in first out. Supposed to take payment this week, so the ball is rolling
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Just received an email today that the parts are in, and they would fill orders first in first out. Supposed to take payment this week, so the ball is rolling
Same here.
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Glad they are on the way soon! As always, look forward to your impressions and some pictures of the new speakers!

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Well, you said it wasn't as loud as you expected. But now you're saying that there is nothing wrong with performance so I am a bit confused. For the price you paid, I wish you could have gotten the SVS equally priced sub instead to save you $70.
Honestly in my head I didn't quite realize how big it was going to be. You're right that I didn't phrase that right. This thing has a ton of output and what I mean't to say was it didn't have the boomy quality that my Polk seems to have. I did order the SVS SB12-NSD for $400(hopefully I'll get $40 cash back too), which should meet my needs better. I was foolish in thinking that the I-12 would work in an apartment living room. If I was in a house I would have kept it.
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Got 2 emails today from Brian, 1st is about the customs, 2nd one said they were shipped with tracking number.. Good Luck to everyone!!

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I did talk to Brian today as well and asked him specifically about the new Impression Series design. He said they had hoped to be out with a new line in early 2016, but have had a design set-back and will not have a finished product anytime soon. I asked about the chance of there being a ribbon on top of that speaker, but he did not address that question...

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I did talk to Brian today as well and asked him specifically about the new Impression Series design. He said they had hoped to be out with a new line in early 2016, but have had a design set-back and will not have a finished product anytime soon. I asked about the chance of there being a ribbon on top of that speaker, but he did not address that question...
Glad they are working on it at least, maybe mid-late 2016 we will know some more. And perhaps not addressing the ribbon question is a little telling

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Warm? We're talking about the bookshelf at -10 thru -5dB with no EQ and 9ft away. Not the tower.

That's two, one per cab, 6 1/2" drivers covering a large frequency range at loud levels. I'd be interested to read the comments on the reports of the L3s being warm.
To be honest, I've seen not once but many times reported that L3 is on the warm side.
How warm? I don't know, love to find out but base on my scale from reading those reports
warmest: Energy RC (it is my own experience) -> HTD L3 -> EmpTek -> Chane -> Klipsch.
Say, let's set Chane at most neutral, L3 is definitely on the warm side.
If comparing to RC, L3 is maybe on the bright side.
I wish I can have time/money to try out every speaker myself so I don't keep asking about the sound signature of each.


Audition at Magnolia, I can say that MLogan is brighter than B&W CM and SFaber is on the warm side.
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Got 2 emails today from Brian, 1st is about the customs, 2nd one said they were shipped with tracking number.. Good Luck to everyone!!
Just heard from Brian that my order is scheduled to ship today as well. So excited!

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To be honest, I've seen not once but many times reported that L3 is on the warm side.
How warm? I don't know, love to find out but base on my scale from reading those reports
warmest: Energy RC (it is my own experience) -> HTD L3 -> EmpTek -> Chane -> Klipsch.
Say, let's set Chane at most neutral, L3 is definitely on the warm side.
If comparing to RC, L3 is maybe on the bright side.
I wish I can have time/money to try out every speaker myself so I don't keep asking about the sound signature of each.


Audition at Magnolia, I can say that MLogan is brighter than B&W CM and SFaber is on the warm side.
I very much so disagree with your list and the fact that it's not specific rubs me the wrong way.

You listed brands, and not models of speakers. HTD has several different lines of speakers that use different high frequency drivers. You did say L3, but didn't say the tower or bookshelf model - just L3. You simply listed the other brands of speakers as well; no models.

I have personally owned and experienced the HTD Level 3 bookshelf as being on the bright side in my own room with no EQ and using Audyssey XT32. I also had 5 acoustic panels around the room as well when I had the Level 3s. I also said a few times, the brightness occurs much more so at higher levels - to the point I didn't enjoy them for HT (usually watch at louder levels than not) or loud music. I've also heard (and still own) own their Level 2 towers and them being much warmer.

Martin Logan makes somewhere in the range of a dozen different speakers each with a different high frequency/midrange driver combination. I personally own the Motion 40s, and they are much more controlled at higher levels than the HTD Level 3 bookshelves. The main difference between the two speakers (other than the obvious price and bookshelf/tower difference) is that one sounds very different at high levels than the other. When you say "'MLogan' is brighter", I'm honestly letting that enter one ear, and out the other.

I wouldn't give much credit to auditioning speakers at a BB Magnolia. Their tile flooring, their terribly reflective rooms (audio gear/other speakers/un-treated walls), and background shoppers/salesmen give for a poor audition. Speakers played there will sound different when played in one's home. Speaker placement is huge and I doubt anything was placed optimally. Each speaker would have its own room modes, peaks, nulls, and reflections because they are all not placed in the same spot.

At least you listen B&W CM - Either way, non-specific. Same concept goes with "SFaber". A brand, and no models. Either way, whatever "SFaber" speakers you listened to at the Magnolia section, suffer from the issues listed in the paragraph above.

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Keep in mind, Bg, that a speaker can sound slightly warm in one room and appear slightly bright in another...plus I am not sure that everyone knows what warm and bright is. When I had my EMP speakers upstair in a room with hardwood floors, they seemed a tad bright. Downstairs, on a concrete floor but with a thick rug, they seem abit recessed at the high end...
But I agree, if you are going to assign sound chracteristic to a speaker, you have to identify the specific model of the speaker

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