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post #6121 of 6822 Old 01-18-2016, 12:01 PM
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i forgot that you can go directly to the website on the receiver too. That allows you to do a lot more. Just put the ip address in a browser, 192.168.n.n and you can adjust just about anything.
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I used to have a $250 Denon AVR-e300 that I had no trouble with - my first receiver. I have trouble with my more expensive Denon receivers.

Still under warranty?
Rut roh Raggy...

I guess I'll have to be super vigilant looking for problems and proactive about addressing them while the thing's still under warranty (and cross fingers that nothing breaks outside of warranty). I've heard some horror stories about d & m tech support, hopefully I don't need to find out firsthand
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Doesn't excuse Denon, but I think there is an issue with their "refurbishment" program. Accessories4less told me as much...however, mine was refurbished, my son in laws was not!

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Doesn't excuse Denon, but I think there is an issue with their "refurbishment" program. Accessories4less told me as much...however, mine was refurbished, my son in laws was not!
I think my next receiver will be from a different brand. But I hope that isn't for years to come...at that point, I'll probably be going separates.

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yes, I hear you and I am leaning toward a Marantz in my next AV receiver purchase...

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yes, I hear you and I am leaning toward a Marantz in my next AV receiver purchase...
But Marantz and Denon are the same company. Now you've got me nervous about my refurbed Denon!
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Finally got around to watching Interstellar last night, and talk about some fantastic sound! The bass is abundant and deep, and I had to turn things down a couple times so I don't get some angry neighbors

The X12 didn't have any trouble though and sounded incredible at -10dB. I do have it at -6dB in my receiver, so I have plenty of headroom. I do see the dialogue issue people were having, but I guess that is to mimic them talking in a space suit.
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Finally got around to watching Interstellar last night, and talk about some fantastic sound! The bass is abundant and deep, and I had to turn things down a couple times so I don't get some angry neighbors

The X12 didn't have any trouble though and sounded incredible at -10dB. I do have it at -6dB in my receiver, so I have plenty of headroom. I do see the dialogue issue people were having, but I guess that is to mimic them talking in a space suit.
I think the main complaint with the dialogue was the score being too loud, drowning out the dialog. I need to re-watch the movie again.
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I think the main complaint with the dialogue was the score being too loud, drowning out the dialog. I need to re-watch the movie again.
It definitely had some loud scenes, those EMPs don't break a sweat though and stay composed. It's easy to forget how loud it actually is because you aren't getting any harshness from them, I wonder just how loud some of those peaks were.
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There were a few scene where dialogue was very hard to hear...but that was true on any of the three speaker system I own, so it has nothing to do with center channel quality and everything to do with the way it was mixed! As a side, I liked the movie, but despite the interesting twists in the plot, was bored more than once while watching. One of those movie I need to watch again, but man, three hours...

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There were a few scene where dialogue was very hard to hear...but that was true on any of the three speaker system I own, so it has nothing to do with center channel quality and everything to do with the way it was mixed! As a side, I liked the movie, but despite the interesting twists in the plot, was bored more than once while watching. One of those movie I need to watch again, but man, three hours...
Yeah it was a long movie, they could have trimmed it down and sped it up a bit.

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Yeah it was a long movie, they could have trimmed it down and sped it up a bit.
I agree, though..my EMP e5Ti did not skip a beat throughout that movie and handled several very dynamic and loud scenes without hint of stress!

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First saw Interstellar at an IMAX theater. Yep, some of the dialog was a bit difficult to discern. More troubling was that I didn’t realize that a lot of that dialog was coming from the robots, at least not at first. It would have been nice if their voices were more distinctive (like HAL 9000). Still, I loved the movie and own it on blu-ray. Impressive LFE content and a good story. I also liked The Martian when I saw it at the theater, but not as much as I liked Interstellar, so I’ll rent the blu-ray, then decide whether it’s worth the purchase.

Speaking of movies, I hope to see The Revenant for the second time next week. This will be a MUST purchase for me. Incredible camera work and cinematography! Absolutely stunning, with unforgettable scenes.
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But interstellar was terrible! There are good movies you can rewatch if you want to show off your system. The only way I'd watch it again is if my wife said she wanted to see it. She passed the first time. Same goes for Jurassic world (the worst) and San Andreas. If you want to blow people away, try the first battle in Master and Commander.
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I had NOT seen a Jurassic movie since the original, which I wasn't a huge fan of and when I saw the new one, I felt like I was just watching the first one again! San Andreas, not a huge fan of, but I did end up watching it a second time and like it more the second time. I guess we will have to disagree about Interstellar. I liked it, even though I was bored a couple time and felt like it could have been a much better 2 hr movie than a 3 hr event. Man, you gotta be committed to watching a 3 hr movie, I can barely sit still for that long!
I keep hearing the remake of War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise, I beleive) is for real, so I gotta pick that up at some point.
But yes, my movie rant...there are really great sound tracks (like every Resident Evil Movie, UNderworld, etc), there are really great movies and EVERY SO OFTEN, a movie that has both!

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But interstellar was terrible!
One thing is a certainty. People will have total different reactions to any movie .

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I had NOT seen a Jurassic movie since the original, which I wasn't a huge fan of and when I saw the new one, I felt like I was just watching the first one again! San Andreas, not a huge fan of, but I did end up watching it a second time and like it more the second time. I guess we will have to disagree about Interstellar. I liked it, even though I was bored a couple time and felt like it could have been a much better 2 hr movie than a 3 hr event. Man, you gotta be committed to watching a 3 hr movie, I can barely sit still for that long!
I keep hearing the remake of War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise, I beleive) is for real, so I gotta pick that up at some point.
But yes, my movie rant...there are really great sound tracks (like every Resident Evil Movie, UNderworld, etc), there are really great movies and EVERY SO OFTEN, a movie that has both!
War of the Worlds is still my number 1 movie for bass, I just have the DVD but it sounds incredible. The Pod Emerges scene is what I usually use to demo a sub and it's quite impressive.

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First saw Interstellar at an IMAX theater. Yep, some of the dialog was a bit difficult to discern. More troubling was that I didn’t realize that a lot of that dialog was coming from the robots, at least not at first. It would have been nice if their voices were more distinctive (like HAL 9000). Still, I loved the movie and own it on blu-ray. Impressive LFE content and a good story. I also liked The Martian when I saw it at the theater, but not as much as I liked Interstellar, so I’ll rent the blu-ray, then decide whether it’s worth the purchase.

Speaking of movies, I hope to see The Revenant for the second time next week. This will be a MUST purchase for me. Incredible camera work and cinematography! Absolutely stunning, with unforgettable scenes.
I need to go see The Revenant, everyone says it's fantastic.

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There were a few scene where dialogue was very hard to hear...but that was true on any of the three speaker system I own, so it has nothing to do with center channel quality and everything to do with the way it was mixed! As a side, I liked the movie, but despite the interesting twists in the plot, was bored more than once while watching. One of those movie I need to watch again, but man, three hours...
When I watched this movie on my cheap bookshelf speakers, the dialogue was difficult to understand, but I knew that was how it was intended to be. However, watching the same scene on my nicer speakers, I was then able to clearly hear through all the spacesuit nonsense. It actually makes for a good demo scene when comparing two speakers.

I found myself a little...anxious at the end..well, the last 20% of the movie...I was waiting for it to end and it just never did. I loved the entire movie and the concept to the point I wish they made another, but that end was too slow for my liking and they also tried to make it suspenseful. A slow suspenseful ending make it seem like the movie was never going to end.

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War of the Worlds is still my number 1 movie for bass, I just have the DVD but it sounds incredible. The Pod Emerges scene is what I usually use to demo a sub and it's quite impressive.
Wait until you demo that scene with subs capable of ULF! The X12 can dig deep, but that scene has bass down to the single digits, IIRC. But I know you are limited on what subs you are actually able to fire up at your place.

Some of my other fav demo scenes:
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Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - Intro and 1st scene
Lucy - Intro and 1st scene and anything else with the bassline from Sister Rust (song)

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Wait until you demo that scene with subs capable of ULF! The X12 can dig deep, but that scene has bass down to the single digits, IIRC. But I know you are limited on what subs you are actually able to fire up at your place.

Some of my other fav demo scenes:
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Lucy - Intro and 1st scene and anything else with the bassline from Sister Rust (song)

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Yeah one day I hope to have extension down into the single digits, but for now the X12 is probably the most I can get away with in an apartment. That grenade scene is fantastic, I don't think I've seen any of the Transformers movies on my new sub, but Lucy is next on my list.

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Yeah one day I hope to have extension down into the single digits, but for now the X12 is probably the most I can get away with in an apartment. That grenade scene is fantastic, I don't think I've seen any of the Transformers movies on my new sub, but Lucy is next on my list.
Do you have your X12 on max extension or output?

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War of the Worlds is still my number 1 movie for bass, I just have the DVD but it sounds incredible. The Pod Emerges scene is what I usually use to demo a sub and it's quite impressive.
I too have just the DVD, and it is incredible. The pod emergence scene will have most homes shaking. While a lot of people didn't like the film and don't like Tom Cruise, it has some of the longest deep bass sequences around. I happened to like the film and Tom Cruise, so I'm okay with being in the minority.

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I need to go see The Revenant, everyone says it's fantastic.
While certainly not a bass movie, the surrounds will get a workout. The way it was shot puts you in the middle of the action. Incredible camera work. It's an unforgettable movie of survival, based on what happened to Hugh Glass. Sort of a Jeremiah Johnson on steroids, but much harsher and unforgiving. Since I think it should win most of the Academy Awards, it will probably be shutout .

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I use max extension, I don't need the extra output being in an apartment and the extension mode is noticeably deeper.

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I too have just the DVD, and it is incredible. The pod emergence scene will have most homes shaking. While a lot of people didn't like the film and don't like Tom Cruise, it has some of the longest deep bass sequences around. I happened to like the film and Tom Cruise, so I'm okay with being in the minority.



While certainly not a bass movie, the surrounds will get a workout. The way it was shot puts you in the middle of the action. Incredible camera work. It's an unforgettable movie of survival, based on what happened to Hugh Glass. Sort of a Jeremiah Johnson on steroids, but much harsher and unforgiving. Since I think it should win most of the Academy Awards, it will probably be shutout .
Yeah I don't mind Tom Cruise and definitelye enjoyed War of the Worlds in addition to the excellent bass. I will have to get out to the theaters once this storm passes, it sounds like it may be similar to Lone Survivor in terms of putting you right in the action, definitely want to check it out.

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I for one didn't like a lot of Tom Cruise movies, but man, Oblivion, and EoT sure have made me want to go back and watch a few. Not that I think his acting is amazing, but he chooses great action movies. I didn't care much for the first Mission Impossible movie, so I didn't see any of the next what, 4? I haven't really dove into the Marvell movies either, although I have seen the Iron man and Guardians of the Galaxy.

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I for one didn't like a lot of Tom Cruise movies, but man, Oblivion, and EoT sure have made me want to go back and watch a few. Not that I think his acting is amazing, but he chooses great action movies. I didn't care much for the first Mission Impossible movie, so I didn't see any of the next what, 4? I haven't really dove into the Marvell movies either, although I have seen the Iron man and Guardians of the Galaxy.
Oblivion and Edge of Tomorrow rank right up there. Oblivion because of its spectacular visual quality and soundtrack (along with impressive bass). EOT because I love the topic and humor (also has some good bass throughout). I didn’t like Mission Impossible either. Nor the next two (all were rentals). I do have to say that the last two were much, much better. The latest is a real hoot and keeps you fully involved throughout. Well worth the rental (I will actually purchase the latest installment, Rogue Nation).

I did like the first Iron Man, but didn’t care for Guardians. Really enjoyed The Avengers (first one), mainly because Joss Whedon (Firefly/Serenity) directed it (a lot of sharp humor).

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This thread has become a recommended-movie thread in the recent days
But I have to chip in to vote for the EoT, especially the introduction scene. Love it.
Sorry to hijack this EmpTek thread but I play that scene every day just to watch the cone of the Gamma15, pumping back and forth LOL
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This thread has become a recommended-movie thread in the recent days
But I have to chip in to vote for the EoT, especially the introduction scene. Love it.
Sorry to hijack this EmpTek thread but I play that scene every day just to watch the cone of the Gamma15, pumping back and forth LOL
A little variation in moderation keeps things interesting! One of the sub companies I'm looking at is rythmik and I emailed them for some help. They have so many models with (to me) similar stats that it was difficult for me to compare. It's hard enough comparing offerings between the different ID companies. I indicated my (large) room size and that it'd be 80% music and 20% movies/tv but I threw in the fact that I'd surely be buying EoT. I suspect the recommendation would have been different (or included a list greater than 1) for the budget I listed (less than $1k).

Has anybody tried EoT with the I-12/e? How was it?
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A little variation in moderation keeps things interesting! One of the sub companies I'm looking at is rythmik and I emailed them for some help. They have so many models with (to me) similar stats that it was difficult for me to compare. It's hard enough comparing offerings between the different ID companies. I indicated my (large) room size and that it'd be 80% music and 20% movies/tv but I threw in the fact that I'd surely be buying EoT. I suspect the recommendation would have been different (or included a list greater than 1) for the budget I listed (less than $1k).

Has anybody tried EoT with the I-12/e? How was it?
I haven't heard the I12 or I12/e, but by all accounts, there are big boy subs and I would expect they will be every bit as good as the really good budget subs- the Outlaw X12, Rythmik LV12 or the SVS SB/PB1000 (in fact, I have heard twice that the I12 outperformed the SB1000 by users). The SB2000, well, that one will be more like the I12e. My recommendation would be 2 12 inch subs, if you were using 50% or greater HT usage. Music, I think you will be fine with one good 12 inch sub. Many would recommend sealed for accuracy, but I tend to think that is a myth...ported or sealed, a good subwoofer is a good subwoofer!
Btw, the AMP warranty has been extended to 2 yrs on the EMP subs...

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