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My Sewell deadbolt plugs don't fit snugly. What plugs you guys using?

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This is why I'm not a big fan of autocalibration tools...very hit and miss.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Much easier to just manually set and use spl meter in my opinion. But that is just me!
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My Sewell deadbolt plugs don't fit snugly. What plugs you guys using?



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I use those, I also use some terminated Mediabridge 16awg cables, and Monoprice 12awg wire with banana plugs.

The Mediabridge cables are my favorite. All 3 fit nicely, but the 16awg cable is thin, lightweight, and looks the best. But not the cheapest. I wouldn't think too hard about cables, but something cheap and inexpensive hyperactiveme

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I ordered the silver back plugs only. I'll swap out my deadbolt ones. I wanted the media bridge but nobody wants to ship to Canada.

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Well I sold my monitor audio bronze 2 today and ordered the R55Ti towers. Hopefully I don't regret it. Should have them by next weekend.

BTW, those silverback plugs did the trick.
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Well I sold my monitor audio bronze 2 today and ordered the R55Ti towers. Hopefully I don't regret it. Should have them by next weekend.

BTW, those silverback plugs did the trick.
Glad they worked well for you, mine are nice and snug in the EMP binding posts.

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Well I sold my monitor audio bronze 2 today and ordered the R55Ti towers. Hopefully I don't regret it. Should have them by next weekend.

BTW, those silverback plugs did the trick.
Let us know why you decided to keep the emp teks. What did you like more about it over the monitor audio bronze?

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He doesn't have them yet. He rolled the dice. I hope you like them. Just for the record, it took me a couple of weeks & eq'ing to really appreciate them. It wasn't a jaw dropping moment. They grew on me. I like them enough to not have the "want" to upgrade & I have high expectations for audio.
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Well I sold my monitor audio bronze 2 today and ordered the R55Ti towers. Hopefully I don't regret it. Should have them by next weekend.
No one can say whether you will like the R55Ti’s better than the speakers you’ve just sold. Only you can judge that. And while I hope you’ll like the EMP Teks, it would come as no surprise if you didn’t.

I think there are perhaps a small handful of speakers that I’ve loved immediately. Most speakers take a little time getting use to. And a couple of those speakers I fell in love with immediately, began showing signs of not being as quite as perfect as I initially thought on additional auditions (that’s why in-home auditions are important). So it took me two weeks to be sold on the R5Bi’s and the full month to be sold on the R55Ti’’s.

Have I liked other speakers that are reasonable in cost? Yes. Quite a few, in fact. And some I like/liked better than the EMPs, although they were indeed more expensive. Have I wished I would have waited and purchased those and not the EMP Teks? So far, not once. The more speakers I hear or audition, especially those in the $1k to $2k category, the more respect I have for the inexpensive EMP Teks.

Is it just a matter of getting use to the sound? I’m sure that is a factor, but the bottom line is that while I know they aren’t perfect, I’ve come to appreciate and enjoy their performance. And since I had already found my speakers for music, my interest was more inline toward speakers for movies (although I always test for music first).
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Oh man, I really liked those monitor audio speakers. I got full price for them on Canuck audio Mart so no worries there.

The only real difference between the emp bookshelves and the MA was the amount of bass.

Hopefully the towers will make up for it. Here's to hoping🍺
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Can you describe the sonic difference between the Emp bookshelf and the bronze 2? I have a friend that is seriously considering the bronze 2 and I was recommending to him the Emp R5ti. Thanks in advance.
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@ you describe the sonic difference between the Emp bookshelf and the bronze 2?
As far as bookshelves go the only real difference I found was the amount of bottem end from the MA, very punchy. Both sound very open and detailed otherwise.

I would never have dumped the MA if it wasn't for irrational need/want for towers. If it doesn't work out I'll 100% eat the towers and get another set of MA.

Sorry I can't give you a proper sonic description. I'll just say the reviews online are accurate in regards to both.
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Oh man, I really liked those monitor audio speakers. I got full price for them on Canuck audio Mart so no worries there.

The only real difference between the emp bookshelves and the MA was the amount of bass.

Hopefully the towers will make up for it. Here's to hoping🍺
Yes, the R55Ti’s have a strong upper bass / lower midrange, which I found as the biggest plus over the R5Bi’s. That, and being 3 dB more sensitive. As far as lower bass, I found that generally they are good, but can get a bit soft on occasion depending upon what is played. Of course a subwoofer will take care of that .
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Just watched BvS extended and the sound was fantastic. The R5bi held up just fine as a center channel but might be at its limit. Time will tell.

Sound was very dynamic.

I'm real happy how things turned out. Fingers crossed for the 2.0 set up now.

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Just watched BvS extended and the sound was fantastic. The R5bi held up just fine as a center channel but might be at its limit. Time will tell.

Sound was very dynamic.

I'm real happy how things turned out. Fingers crossed for the 2.0 set up now.
Happy to hear that the R5Bi's are performing to your expectations. Unless you are running the sound level in the upper 90 dB peak range, the R5Bi's shouldn't sound stressed. I always kind of chuckle when I get that kind of sound and soundstage from such small, inexpensive speakers with a single 5-1/4" driver and a dome tweeter. I don't know what EMP Tek did, but they did it right.

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Anyone know when the new line of emp tek will be comming out?
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Just watched BvS extended and the sound was fantastic. The R5bi held up just fine as a center channel but might be at its limit. Time will tell.
I'd imagine that once you throw in a sub and switch the EMPs to "small" on your receiver, you'll probably enjoy a nice boost in clean headroom...heck why not experiment with them on small even now, just out of curiosity?

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When you say your AVR sets it to 100hz does that mean you can't set it lower than that and that is lowest option? If so, then that is what you would have to use. You would have to play around with it and see how you like it. If your AVR can do 80hz for surrounds personally I would do the surrounds to 80hz if they are capable of playing below 80hz. This would allow more depth from surrounds. If you keep it at 110hz it just means surrounds rolls off around 110 possibly little under and you would miss lower frequencies if they are sent to the surrounds. If the surrounds sound too bassy you can always move them up to 90 or 100hz but personally I prefer all to be set to 80hz if they are all capable to play below 80hz and then let the sub handle 80hz and below only. Remember there is no wrong way, mostly just preference. 80hz is usually the starting point since THX recommends it and it works for alot of people. And again there isn't MUCH going on in surrounds like the fronts so I wouldn't worry too much about it. But make sure to run speaker levels individually at least though.
Every time I ran Onkyo auto calibration, it gave me different crossover frequency for LCR, Surround and Atmos speakers, and consistent 120Hz for my sub. I guess the auto calibration is only good for setting the distance (time delay). I tried your suggestion, setting 80Hz for all speakers, and use spl app to set the speaker level, it worked well. However, I can tell during the song when it hits a certain bass note, the sub kicks in and it is more pronounced, and some bass (over 80Hz) from other speakers is weaker. It is not as seamless as I have hoped. Any suggestion to make it more seamless? (lower the sub level, or setting a little higher crossover for the sub?)

Does any one know how the AUTO mode of I-12 works? I hooked it up via Rocketfish Wireless Subwoofer kit, which has Auto On function. The wireless kit turns on quite fast once it senses bass signal. However, the I-12 remains sleep (LED red). I have to flip the toggle switch to the left ON position to wake up the Sub (LED green). Once it wakes up, I can flip the toggle switch to the middle AUTO mode, and it will remain on. How long does your I-12 take to wake up when there is a LFE signal in AUTO mode?
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I'd imagine that once you throw in a sub and switch the EMPs to "small" on your receiver, you'll probably enjoy a nice boost in clean headroom.
I do have the I-12 sub and all speakers crossed @ 80hz. Maybe I have a hard time believing they can handle much more. I listen to movies LOUD!

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Mine works perfect and I don't notice any delay. Try connecting it directly first to make sure it works properly.


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I do have the I-12 sub and all speakers crossed @ 80hz. Maybe I have a hard time believing they can handle much more. I listen to movies LOUD!
Hmm, in that case I'd just turn up the volume slowly until you start to hear distortion, at which point you should stop.

And maybe it would be worthwhile to experiment with a 100Hz crossover, or even 120Hz?

btw, how do you like the I-12? If I had a bigger space I'd be sorely tempted to grab one at its unbelievable b-stock price.

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Hmm, in that case I'd just turn up the volume slowly until you start to hear distortion, at which point you should stop.

And maybe it would be worthwhile to experiment with a 100Hz crossover, or even 120Hz?

btw, how do you like the I-12? If I had a bigger space I'd be sorely tempted to grab one at its unbelievable b-stock price.
Yeah perhaps a 100Hz crossover would work well, IIRC Audyssey sets my E5Bi at 100Hz when I place them up front.

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Does any one know how the AUTO mode of I-12 works? I hooked it up via Rocketfish Wireless Subwoofer kit, which has Auto On function. The wireless kit turns on quite fast once it senses bass signal. However, the I-12 remains sleep (LED red). I have to flip the toggle switch to the left ON position to wake up the Sub (LED green). Once it wakes up, I can flip the toggle switch to the middle AUTO mode, and it will remain on. How long does your I-12 take to wake up when there is a LFE signal in AUTO mode?
It would take mine a little while if there wasn't a heavy bass signal going. The SVS I have now is much better in that respect. I find a 90 or 100Hz crossover to be better in my setup too. The bass is a little weak with the R5Bi.
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It would take mine a little while if there wasn't a heavy bass signal going. The SVS I have now is much better in that respect. I find a 90 or 100Hz crossover to be better in my setup too. The bass is a little weak with the R5Bi.
Maybe since I set the crossover freq to 80Hz, the I-12 does not "see" much LFE signal to wake up. Yeah, the R5Bi bass is a bit weak and with crossover at 80Hz, the bass sounds like two steps. The bass from I-12 is powerful while the bass from R5Bi is weak. I will try 100Hz as you suggested. Maybe I-12 can wake up faster since more LFE signal get routed to the sub.
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It never hurts to play around with the crossover. Each room is different and each setup is different. The R5Bi’s only go down to around 60 Hz (57 Hz in my room before dropping off), so I use a crossover at 80 Hz, which suited my tastes just fine. I will say that when I used the R55Ti’s, its upper bass and lower midrange output was a bit more impressive, as they should be with three 6-1/2” drivers (I crossed those over at 60 Hz). But then again, I’m looking for as much from the speakers as I can get, and let the bass from the subwoofer cover what the speakers can’t deliver nearly as well.

There is only so much a 5-1/4” driver can deliver in the upper bass regions, so playing around with the crossover may help fill in what you feel is missing, as long as clarity doesn’t suffer (a real strong suit for the R5Bi’s).

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Temporary home until I get more speaker cable. Then they will flank the fireplace.

Gentle break in for the next couple days. I like what I hear so far... Won't miss the MA's

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Temporary home until I get more speaker cable. Then they will flank the fireplace.

Gentle break in for the next couple days. I like what I hear so far... Won't miss the MA's

Congrats! Glad you are liking it more than the bookshelf version. If you like how it sounds now you will probably enjoy it more when its more spread out further apart. So are the bookshelfs gonna be used as side or rear surrounds or did you return it?

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So are the bookshelfs gonna be used as side or rear surrounds or did you return it?
Bookshelf are my RCL of the 5.1 home theater

This is strictly for 2.0 upstairs
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It never hurts to play around with the crossover. Each room is different and each setup is different. The R5Bi’s only go down to around 60 Hz (57 Hz in my room before dropping off), so I use a crossover at 80 Hz, which suited my tastes just fine. I will say that when I used the R55Ti’s, its upper bass and lower midrange output was a bit more impressive, as they should be with three 6-1/2” drivers (I crossed those over at 60 Hz). But then again, I’m looking for as much from the speakers as I can get, and let the bass from the subwoofer cover what the speakers can’t deliver nearly as well.

There is only so much a 5-1/4” driver can deliver in the upper bass regions, so playing around with the crossover may help fill in what you feel is missing, as long as clarity doesn’t suffer (a real strong suit for the R5Bi’s).
I tried the 100Hz crossover for the Sub, (the other speakers still at 80Hz), and it worked better as the I-12 kicks in earlier. Now the bass do not sound 2 steps. It also fixed the AUTO wake up issues. I love the clarity of R5Bi.
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