Originally Posted by bgtighe23
Dude..surrounds literally consist of 10% of the movie average and what is sent to them is no where near the output level of your front speakers and not to mention they should be aimed at the LP, not the rear wall.
I don't know what receiver you have, but I don't understand why you say you have to hook up all 7 channels to run Audyssey if you're not using all 7.
I also don't understand why you can't take pics of the room or some diagram...if you just don't want to or just don't want our advise or are just too lazy, then say that. Don't say you "can't" do it and give some poor excuse on why you can't.
I'm seriously confused on your thought process and reasoning on things. It doesn't make sense.
You have lined up giving you advise and you shoot it all down and continue being set in your ways...
Square living room with TV and LCR in corner? How much imagination are you lacking for that? Geez.
I am experimenting. I know damn well how speakers should be positioned but I have to improvise. Like my R5s sitting on top of wides and toed to corner behind me. Improvisation.
You have no idea how unideal my situation is. Sectional takes up two walls. Front door by one wide. One sub in between wides. Hsu VTF 3 MK 3 taking up half the width to entrance to my kitchen. Stands not possible for rear. Mounting to wall not option. I actually do listen to a lot of surround music and when not in stereo then in audyssey DSX mode. That is more than 10℅ of stage in that situation.
I am literally sitting in the middle of the room. Between 65" JS9500 and entertainment center, left and rights, coffee table, and sectional behind me, my recliner is in the middle of the room, not to mention my Sager 770ZM on a desk with castor wheels to the right of me. The only thing I've been lazy about is putting sectional out by dumpster. It's rained off and on last 3 weeks or so randomly and I'd rather somebody get to take advantage of sectional rather than it getting ruined. It's not easy getting rid of a sectional. Trust me. I've tried. Free. Not dealing with Craigslist for it. Don't want to become a burglary target.
Weird dude. I asked many a people about the JBL LC1 and I get 'get the LC2'. Doesn't work that easy.
Now once I get rid of my sectional then I can consider stands. Until, just thinking of ideas to improve my situation. Uh, that's how creativity and innovation work.
Technically, with my polk setup and only sectional with no recliner, my wides line of sight crossed paths right in front of me when sitting anywhere on my sectional. And I didn't know, but they were running as rear surrounds. And worked quite well at that. Sounded like people talkong behind me, in a big crowd, phone ringing in a localized spot behind me like from the matrix. If heights worked for me I'd go that route. But it doesn't. And from what I've read, not many people do, unless they are running everything a receiver like mine can. I believe I can do up to 9.2 if I wanted but that ain't happening. 7 max if possible. That's why I was asking if anybody had some ideas. I'm quite sure people with much smaller apartments than mine have got creative. I've stayed in new York, Canada, Korea, Japan, California. You'd be lucky to run 5.0.0 with small bookshelves and maybe a 42" inch tv in some of the apartments I've seen. And some of those were nice 'big' apartments for the area.
If you think I'm being ridiculous don't reply. I've seen a couple setups that worked better than you would imagine and it was some weird and creative setups. Like surrounds not even pointed near MLP. Quite the opposite. Volume was weird and sometimes the sound, but the odd placement did it's job. Trying to work with what I have and can't do those crazy setups. In lucky to be running two subs in an apartment with no complaints. Small on in middle of wall between wides and bigger one not near a wall but pushed up against my sectional. I want to stack them, but might be too much reverb on that wall, or it may get too much gain from room response and have to shut it down.
Maybe I am hard to work with. But no pictures needed for a square room and I'm running diamond shaped inside it. Not sacrificing my front 5 and 2 subs for sure. I might have option of wall mounting R5s above wides, but experimenting with toe in right now on top of R55s to see what I can get.
Anyways, I'm rambling because your accusatory comments rocked the boat. Just had a retired racist coworker throw me under the bus so his spot could be filled with a white guy. His lazy lies and his own personal laziness are becoming glaring. Cost me $15000 minimum for that ****!