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I have the EMPe5ti, the EMP10i10i subwoofer and the EMPe5bi as surrounds, all ordered on closeout or B stock. I have yet to find a single flaw, with the exception of the large chip in my e5Ti that my dog did after they arrive- he decided to knock the speaker over! So no, I haven't found anything in my three purchases that I could see and say- that is why they are B stock!
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No b stock anywhere. Was hoping for another sub or center channel
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what will be best for clear dialogs on movies as fronts?

three identical R5bi

or

two R5bi and R5Ci?
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what will be best for clear dialogs on movies as fronts?

three identical R5bi

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two R5bi and R5Ci?
I have 3 of the R5bi, sitting 13' away without issue. However I don't have the center to compare them vs each other.
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3 identical speakers up front is the best route 99% of the time
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well with this bf sale i think im finally going to jump on emptek. upgrade from 1st generation andrew jones pioneer speakers

having a hard time between two choices

3 bookshelves or

towers and their center

around $600 price difference between the two choices

for a room that is roughly 12 x 18 or so (havent measured) that opens up to the dining room, would the towers and center be overkill?

i dont have a problem spending the extra money, but thats a big price difference.

primarily for movies but do listen to music. id say 80%/20%

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Luisfc: It depends. For me, I began with 3 R5Bi's. A year and a half later, I tried out the towers and was surprised there wasn't a greater difference. With the R5Bi's you're going to need a good subwoofer. With the R55Ti's, you will also need a good subwoofer, but it can wait a bit. The towers are 3 dB more sensitive, so you can play those louder than the R5Bi's (but I found the R5Bi's got more than loud enough for me). I'd rank the R5Bi's as a bit better for music, while the R55Ti's a bit better for movies. Others will rank them differently.

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So I'm selling my 5.0 to a friend and as I was taking them down I decided to run the bookshelves as fronts with the subs to see how it sounds compared to the r55ti towers. I prefer the bookshelves actually. More midrange clarity and top end.

... I was thinking about trying some other bookshelves, but now I might just order a pair of these and call it a day. Maybe 2 pairs of I want some surrounds again. $150/pr is so darn cheap

Was going to try the Rp-160m or something sensitive as I have a very large, open layout.
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I was considering buying E3 series speakers to mount on the ceiling as back speakers and side speakers in a 7.1 system. has anyone ever mounted these before? Any suggestion on a speaker mount? Thx in advance
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So I'm selling my 5.0 to a friend and as I was taking them down I decided to run the bookshelves as fronts with the subs to see how it sounds compared to the r55ti towers. I prefer the bookshelves actually. More midrange clarity and top end.

... I was thinking about trying some other bookshelves, but now I might just order a pair of these and call it a day. Maybe 2 pairs of I want some surrounds again. $150/pr is so darn cheap

Was going to try the Rp-160m or something sensitive as I have a very large, open layout.
I do have the RP160 as my rears (which is overkill) but have ran it as 2.0 and they can go really loud and clear. I was never a fan of Klipsch til I ran across the new rp line from local classified for really cheap so I couldn't refuse. I noticed its not bright sounding as lower line or older series because of rubber horn instead of hard plastic. Its hard to compare it to R5bi since it cost more. Both do music really well and both would benefit from a sub if you want full range sound. RP160 will definetly play deeper and higher frequencies but for the price R5bi is something special. Only way is to compare but you should compare for few hours to see if you like the sound, after all your friend has it so it should't be hard to go back and forth to see what you like.

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Luisfc: It depends. For me, I began with 3 R5Bi's. A year and a half later, I tried out the towers and was surprised there wasn't a greater difference. With the R5Bi's you're going to need a good subwoofer. With the R55Ti's, you will also need a good subwoofer, but it can wait a bit. The towers are 3 dB more sensitive, so you can play those louder than the R5Bi's (but I found the R5Bi's got more than loud enough for me). I'd rank the R5Bi's as a bit better for music, while the R55Ti's a bit better for movies. Others will rank them differently.
hmm, when you say a good subwoofer im assuming you dont mean a bic f12. i own that one and happy with it but its a little boomy with music. i could sell it. any good ones you recommend on black friday sales? something better than the f12 but id like to not go overkill using those bookshelves and a room of my size, roughly 12x18.
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I was going to recommend the black friday sale SB12 NSD from SVS, but apparently it sold ot today.

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hmm, when you say a good subwoofer im assuming you dont mean a bic f12. i own that one and happy with it but its a little boomy with music. i could sell it. any good ones you recommend on black friday sales? something better than the f12 but id like to not go overkill using those bookshelves and a room of my size, roughly 12x18.
I suspect that between the two rooms you are around 3,500 cu. ft. (lower end of what is considered “large” for a subwoofer). The larger the area, the more difficult it becomes for a subwoofer to handle. BIC makes very decent low-end equipment and always has. But for music AND handling the low frequency effects (LFE), which can hit below 20 Hz, a better choice is warranted. One that has good output around that 20 Hz mark. Once you hear/feel it, you will understand.

Right now is a good time to buy. Many are running black Friday specials. Look at Rythmik, Outlaw Audio, EMP Tek and Hsu for subwoofers around the $500 to $600 range (ported 12-inch designs).

BTW, the subwoofer I matched with those little R5Bi’s was a PSA S3000i (two opposing 15-inch drivers with 1,700 watt amplifier). This is in a fairly open room (4 foot and 6 foot openings) and it's around 3,400 cu. ft. The PSA wasn’t overkill for those speakers, although it could have been if not setup properly.

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So I'm selling my 5.0 to a friend and as I was taking them down I decided to run the bookshelves as fronts with the subs to see how it sounds compared to the r55ti towers. I prefer the bookshelves actually. More midrange clarity and top end.
This doesn't surprise me. While I have a slightly brighter room than you (where the R55Ti's performed pretty well at the top end), the R5Bi's had a better top end and a more pristine upper midrange. The R5Bi's actually put out a bit larger soundstage as well. Where I felt the R55Ti's showed their muscle was in the lower midrange and upper bass frequencies.

Since you know the R5Bi's strengths, it might be a good idea to check other speakers as well. You just never know ... I've found 2 speakers that I prefer (but only marginally), but there isn't anything I've heard that I've liked better than the R5Bi's close to their price point.

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I was going to recommend the black friday sale SB12 NSD from SVS, but apparently it sold ot today.
I got one last year and really regretted not getting a second. I'm not sure where they came from since SVS hasn't sold them since last year's sale. I got a second the other day.

They play significantly lower than my 1010i and are quite small compared to a ported box.
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the subwoofer is still available from amazon, and free shipping if you are a prime member!

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There is also like new svs sb2000 in piano gloss black for $600 shipped in classifieds. Thats even cheaper than svs outlet price! Great sub if you're looking in that budget.

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i just ordered 3 bookshelves in red burl.

any good stands for the bookshelves? i think someone posted some $60 ones but too tired and stuffed to look through each page.

not sure if i need to buy screws or double sided tape.

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i just ordered 3 bookshelves in red burl.

any good stands for the bookshelves? i think someone posted some $60 ones but too tired and stuffed to look through each page.

not sure if i need to buy screws or double sided tape.
Sanus makes nice stands. Look at their steel foundations or natural series if you want to save money. Amazon has nice pricing on those stands. Just make sure you get right height where tweeter is ear height when sitting. If you don't have pets or small children or if the stands are out of your way then placing on top will be just fine. I have my Klipsch RP160m (which is HUGE bookshelf) on speaker stand with 6x6 inch plate and no issues as long as you don't bump to the stand. EMP teks are small so really any stand will work.

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i just ordered 3 bookshelves in red burl.



any good stands for the bookshelves? i think someone posted some $60 ones but too tired and stuffed to look through each page.



not sure if i need to buy screws or double sided tape.


I would go with a metal stand like the Sanus Steel Foundations or VFI stands. They are a bit more money but much more stable and offer things like adjustable spikes, cable routing, and a fillable center column. As for attaching the speaker, I would look for Blu-Tak found in your office supply area, it won't damage the finish.


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some help please.

I am running the bookshelves and center up front in a 14x14 room, with the couch about a foot from the back wall.

Now I would like to purchase surrounds but im not sure what to do since I can only mount on the rear wall. Side walls is not an option.

Would i be better off buying the bipole R55Wi surround speakers (overkill?) or just buying another pair of bookshelves?


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some help please.



I am running the bookshelves and center up front in a 14x14 room, with the couch about a foot from the back wall.



Now I would like to purchase surrounds but im not sure what to do since I can only mount on the rear wall. Side walls is not an option.



Would i be better off buying the bipole R55Wi surround speakers (overkill?) or just buying another pair of bookshelves?





thanks!


In your case the bipoles could work since you have some space behind then couch. Or you could use the bookshelves with some of the video secu clamp mounts and angle them in.


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wall mount for R5Ci Center Channel Speaker

I just purchased the R5Ci Center Channel Speaker during Emptek's Black Friday sale. Is there a wall mount you all recommend for this speaker? Thanks.
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In your case the bipoles could work since you have some space behind then couch. Or you could use the bookshelves with some of the video secu clamp mounts and angle them in.


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Thanks Transmaniacon.

Went with the bipoles since it came out to the same price with shipping as the bookshelves.
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Went with the bipoles since it came out to the same price with shipping as the bookshelves.


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hey guys i'm wondering if it's worth picking up another pair of R55WI's for side surrounds as my current E55WI's are used as my rear surrounds? or instead pickup the R5BI's as my rears instead and swap the E55WI's as side surrounds? my thinking was the bipole could give me a better wrap around effect for surrounds?
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any idea when theyl start shipping bf deals out? i just got a receipt of purchase but no shipping notice yet.
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hey guys i'm wondering if it's worth picking up another pair of R55WI's for side surrounds as my current E55WI's are used as my rear surrounds? or instead pickup the R5BI's as my rears instead and swap the E55WI's as side surrounds? my thinking was the bipole could give me a better wrap around effect for surrounds?
In 5.1 system there are no rear surrounds, they are side surrounds. They should be at 90 degrees to begin with. If you are upgrading to 7.0 then you should have your bipoles at sides and bookshelf at rears. There is not much information in the rear surrounds as the side surrounds so you may or may not hear any difference but def go with bookshelfs and they are cheaper as well for the rear surrounds.
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is this the stuff people use to mount speakers on stands?


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