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post #721 of 3429 Old 08-12-2012, 04:11 PM
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I knew I shouldn't have peeked in this thread. Those empteks look so tempting even at msrp. They look like a better musical speaker though. Hmmmmm... lol. Anyways, once you go FLAC, it is hard to go back. Ray Charles just jams out in lossless.
butter and jelly please.

All I know is that to my non-audiophile ears, these are great speakers, I couldn't be happier for either music or home theater. Add in the low price, and you have the home theater bargain of the year.
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Does the E56Ci Center Channel Speaker sound small on movie dialogue?

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It does not sound small at all.

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Does the E56Ci Center Channel Speaker sound small on movie dialogue?

The E56Ci is one of the beefiest center channels I've owned and seen. I mean, there are larger ones out there, but it's a monster of a speaker. That said, mine sounds great. Assuming you have a decent receiver/amp, which I saw in your other thread, that you do. That thing should sound great for you. That line of speakers also comes with a 30 day, free return shipping, money back guarantee. If you don't like it, you can send it back at no cost to you. Nothing to lose.

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Of course, I got it modified with the TK-427, which cheeks it up another, maybe, 3 or 4 quads per channel.
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The E56Ci is one of the beefiest center channels I've owned and seen. I mean, there are larger ones out there, but it's a monster of a speaker. That said, mine sounds great. Assuming you have a decent receiver/amp, which I saw in your other thread, that you do. That thing should sound great for you. That line of speakers also comes with a 30 day, free return shipping, money back guarantee. If you don't like it, you can send it back at no cost to you. Nothing to lose.

I agree. The E56ci center is the main reason I purchased EMP speakers, and I am not disappointed at all. I am hearing sounds that I did not hear before from my Polk CS-A6 center. Do not hesitate to purchase this speaker, and while you are at it, get the E55ti towers!
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Is there much difference between the black ash or burl red finish aside from dye color? How red is the red? How reflective is it? (I plan to use it under a projector screen if I buy it.)

These are a good depiction of the color of my wharfedale towers that I am considering matching one of the emptek centers to. The wharfedales use a non gloss vinyl veener. It looks more like plastic than wood when you get close, but it isn't bad. Do you think the emptek finish would jive at all with the reddish finish on the wharfedales or should I just go with black to be safe?

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These are the same speaker model I currently have
http://pic3.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/image?spkrfull&1315919117&pic&class&i/c/f/1309652417.jpg&Wharfedale-Sapphire-SP-89

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I not sure how to answer your question...I have the red burl and the look of those speakers is just outstanding. The veneer finsih is very well done and while you know they aren't wood, they have the look and don't look plastic. Might don't seem reflective at all...

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I have the red burl and the center sits right under the projector screen. I did not get any reflections off of it. It is as it looks on their site.
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Is there much difference between the black ash or burl red finish aside from dye color? How red is the red? How reflective is it? (I plan to use it under a projector screen if I buy it.)
These are a good depiction of the color of my wharfedale towers that I am considering matching one of the emptek centers to. The wharfedales use a non gloss vinyl veener. It looks more like plastic than wood when you get close, but it isn't bad. Do you think the emptek finish would jive at all with the reddish finish on the wharfedales or should I just go with black to be safe?
1309652417.jpg&Wharfedale-Sapphire-SP-89
These are the same speaker model I currently have
http://pic3.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/image?spkrfull&1315919117&pic&class&i/c/f/1309652417.jpg&Wharfedale-Sapphire-SP-89

The color of the red burl will match up with those fairly nice. But, the EMP are much more glossy. Not a cheap looking glossy, but glossy, nonetheless

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Of course, I got it modified with the TK-427, which cheeks it up another, maybe, 3 or 4 quads per channel.
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The only bad thing about the glossy finish is that it does have some reflections from my projector. I do have my speakers right next to the screen. It isn't really distracting although I have thought about getting some black felt to put on them when watching movies. If your speakers are farther away from the screen it may not be an issue.

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I agree. There are certainly other specialty companies out there that only do subwoofers or do them really well. I've heard dozens upon dozens of woofers, home audio and car audio. And nothing quite compares to a 12"-15" inch in a huge enclosure with lots of power handling. But, at $350 a piece on these E1010 models, I don't think it gets much better. You check out some of these other companies for a 12"+ and you're paying anywhere from $600-$2000 dollars for a single sub. And I tell ya what... After ten minutes with my two E1010 woofers pumping, my ears feel like they're gonna bleed. I'm satisfied all day long, especially for the price. cool.gif

Here is a pix of the Auralex subdude subwoofer riser, a wooden platform set on acoustical foam to isolate the subwoofer from the floor. I believe that if you are shaking the walls with your subwoofer, you are wasting power to shake your structure instead of giving you clean tight bass. In addition, this SubW riser has stopped with wife's complaints of hearing my movies from the floor below. All should consider this item, easily found on Amazon.
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Didn't have time to go back and look through the thread for who...but one of you EMP owners had purchased a couple ES1010i subs and also had a pair of SVS subs. I am hoping to get a EMP ES1010i sub the next time they go on sale, just wanted to reaffirm that the EMP sub is a damn good sub? Close in quality to the SVS (or HSU, or other good ID subs?) Thanks....

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not a chance. I don't think any SVS sub would be beat by the ES1010i sub in any trait at least according to published specs.

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Didn't have time to go back and look through the thread for who...but one of you EMP owners had purchased a couple ES1010i subs and also had a pair of SVS subs. I am hoping to get a EMP ES1010i sub the next time they go on sale, just wanted to reaffirm that the EMP sub is a damn good sub? Close in quality to the SVS (or HSU, or other good ID subs?) Thanks....

I would expect similar output, but less in terms of the deepest extension in a wide open space.

Tough to say though.
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When they are on sale for $349 I think the 1010i subs are hard to beat. At regular price they are still pretty good but for a few hundred more you could get a Powersound XV-15 that would crush it or one of the lower level SVS subs.

I had an older SVS 20-39 pc+ in my living room and tried out dual 1010i subs and they sounded about the same at low to medium volume. I never really pushed things to more than -20 on my receiver. I now have 4 of the 1010i subs in that room. In total I paid $900 for the 4 as I got 3 when they were $299 and the other came free as part of a black friday deal earlier this year.

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I have two ES1010s and they're damn loud. But, I'd say an HSU, Outlaw, or SVS will best them. However, at $349 or less, the ES1010 would be the way to go, for me. Any of the other mentioned brands are gonna run you probably, $500+ for one of their decent models. And the ES1010 is no slouch, it just can't hang with some of those companies that specialize in subwoofers and ONLY subwoofers. But, it's not a bad sub by any means!

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Anybody in Northern Virginia looking for E56Ci Center Channel Speaker (Red), I got it from them a month back.
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hey would u guys reccoment the Auralex subdude subwoofer riser with the e1010 sub i have it set in the basement...and its go the four little leg feet but I feel i could use a cleaner bass. any thoughts?
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If it is on a cement pad it most likely will not make a difference. It will never hurt, but if on a cement pad (with carpet) you are not really transferring energy to the floor. I made 5 of them on my own for about $25 and they did make a big difference on hardwood floors.

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I was wondering how to easily and objectively measure the improved performance of my e5ti over the Polk 50s that they replaced. The speakers are very similar in size, but the bass seemed much better on the EMPs.

I found a sound card oscilloscope program called "Scope" and played a couple of songs with a lot of bass. I used "Raphael" by Torch song and "Koyaanisqatsi" by Philip Glass on both sets of speakers on different stereos in different rooms.

The EMP got down in to the 20s on Koyaanisqatsi, but the Polks barely got below 80hz..

It's not terribly scientific since I am not doing an a/b comparison on the same system and room, but it showed me that I wasn't just imagining the bass.

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Interesting, but not a fair test. The Polk monitor 60's are way below in class to the EMP's. I think my E55's are bass- deficient compared to my old Polk Rti-10's- slightly.
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Well the woofers are the same size on the 50s and 60s as the emp. The main point is that the emps are playing the low notes and the Polks are not. I was expecting the emp to be better, but not that much better on bass. I have a good sub, but 2 channel audio sounds better than I expected.

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Yes, the woofer drivers are the same, but not the same number of drivers- that is the difference between the Polks and the EMP's.
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I understand that, but the emp has a mid and 2 woofers while the 50 has two woofers. The woofers on the emp go lower than the polks.
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I did an A/B comparison of my Polk M40s and the EMP5Tis that I own when they first arrived, in a 2.0 set up. The Polks seem to produce more bass (no sure at my age that I can hear 40 hz or lower)..but it wasn't a very clear bass. Seemed muddy...
The EMPs seemed to put out less at the low end, but what they did produce was clear and detailed! Again, no measurements, so just my impressions!

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I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 52 and I had no problems hearing down that low. You can visually see the notes being played on "Raphael".

On the upper end, I can't say. Too many concerts.
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These look pretty nice for the price! Wondering why there isn't as many reviews or people picking them up as you'd think. Moving into a new house and wanting to upgrade my current setup (Energy C-500's, CC-100, C-100's). Anyone know what drivers these towers use??

Pretty sweet about the in home trial. I'm really wanting to try these out and maybe some KEF's. My home audio has taken a back seat to my car audio and now it's time to catch up

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what type of subs are those they look like jL audio car subs
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Ordered some speakers from EMP and was wondering if FedEx requires a signature on delivery or can they just leave them on the porch if I'm not here at the time of delivery?
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the two packages I have gotten from EMP were left on my porch..but that might depend on the area/city/location!

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