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it set the distance of the sub at 0.3 ft from mlp, which is actually around 12 feet.
Holy hell, that means the receiver's probably been muffling the heck out of that sub all this time, the subs has probably been playing at a fraction of its output capability...NO WONDER you were having trouble with fullness/bass!

Seriously, just try turning off Audyssey and setting the levels and distances manually. It's not really "user error," I think this is about the worst case of Audyssey-generated disaster I've ever read about.

Most receivers have a "Pure Direct" mode that turns off all signal modifications but keeps the subwoofer in play---usually just a matter of pushing a button, and then again to revert to previous settings.

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now that i think about it when i got the empteks a few months ago i did the audyssey calibration again. apparently there was a hiccup. it set the distance of the sub at 0.3 ft from mlp, which is actually around 12 feet. i guess i could manually set the sub distance to 12 ft but not sure how that will affect everything.
The Audyssey setting for the sub isn't distance at all. It is time delay. Each subwoofer will have some sort of processing going on that delays the signal. Audyssey makes up for this with a filter shown as distance (for whatever reason). Normally, this delay sets the subwoofer at a greater number, not a lesser number. It's possible BIC isn't using any processing at all, however, I would run Audyssey again to check, or as Zorba pointed out, just set everything up without Audyssey. Audyssey is a good tool, but people have been integrating their subs far longer than Audyssey (or any bass management system) has been around.

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ok all is good now

ran audyssey again. it set the sub at 13.1 feet and -5.5 db. i did up the center and sub level 1db each. set the towers to 60 and center to 80. still have more experimenting to do.

audyssey flat and deq on still sounds best to me.

once in a while treble does sound slightly harsh.

i cant imagine this sounding better upgrading my bic f12 to something like an svs or hsu. im thinking maybe i dont need to but im curious.
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