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post #991 of 4665 Old 12-15-2012, 05:23 PM
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One movie that really test a speaker is 2012!

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Can someone measure the e56ci (large center) exactly? Says 31", but I found a cabinet that fits 30.5" lol...of course...my luck

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I'll take the lack of bumping the thread with impressions as too much excitement

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I just love listening to these, everything sounds better!

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Received my two 55Ti's, 55Wi's, 5Bi's, & 56Ci this weekend. I'll post pics of the setup later. Replaced Polk Monitor set-up. The finish on these speaker are more than the price would suggest. Top notch. A quick run through is all I was able to do. The only-thing that I noticed so far, that kind of bugged me, was the difference in sound from the center to the towers when running pink noise from my receiver. It was a big difference. The center sounded hollow. But I didn't notice any large timbre variations after set-up. First impressions with music. The overall sound was a step above the Polks. The warmth & detail was really nice. Very inviting, the Polk's were more forward sounding. Very happy. The sound stage width was about the same, the Polk 70's did have a wider sound stage in my setup. I listened in Pure Audio through an Onkyo 3009. Only artist I listened to was Adele, because of the dynamics in her voice. The 55Ti's held up & were really nice on their own, however when I turned to stereo mode & engaged the sub, everything seemed to fall apart.(X-over is 80) I might cross these at 60 to maintain some depth. Movie wise I don't think there is much difference between these & the Polk. Which the Polk's were really decent at to begin with. I'll let everything break-in, rerun Audyssey, & report back later. The WAF factor was really high with these also, that's a +. So, far I'm really happy. Don't regret purchasing these at all. I feel once I am able to dial them in they will go from good to great. smile.gif
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Got my tracking number as well. Not sure if this was a coinky-dink but I happen to call EMP to see where my shipment status was, then voila I got my magic FEDEX track #. ETA is 18 Dec. Looks like the rate limiting step to fulfilling our orders was reconfiguring the center channel speakers and fixing it (there was an issue with a wrong value component installed...what they said, I'm just the messenger). My order:
E55ti Tower
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Also, it does not say in the product description but included in the E55Wi are wall mount brackets so i had to quickly cancel an amazon order for speaker wall mounts. Just FYI for those who are considering buying brackets so this should save you some money. Brian advised us to use sturdy dry wall hardware to mount the surrounds.
Anyone else doing 7.1 with all E55Wi surrounds? Not sure if this was overkill and maybe could have gone with a pair of E55Wi on sides and pair of E5Bs for rear but I couldn't pass up the incredible BF deal on these surround speakers so I went all 4. smile.gif

I didn't see any wall mount brackets, I'll have to dig through my box. I must have overlooked them checking out these gorgeous ass speakers. I bought the 55's for the side & the 5's for the rear.
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I got the EMP e5tis to replace polk M40s for my fronts and I can tell you, that was a huge improvement (so maybe there is just that big a jump form the Polkm40 to the 70s). And yes, I think the speakers do sound better with time. For me, the Polk m40s, when given a movie with a very dynamic soundtrack just rumbled alot, but the explosions and rumblings coming from the EMP are just much more clear. I thought the Polks sounded muddy at the low and alittle shrill at the highs, where the EMPs are a much more balanced speaker- good lows, excellent midbase and really good highs!

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I got the EMP e5tis to replace polk M40s for my fronts and I can tell you, that was a huge improvement (so maybe there is just that big a jump form the Polkm40 to the 70s). And yes, I think the speakers do sound better with time. For me, the Polk m40s, when given a movie with a very dynamic soundtrack just rumbled alot, but the explosions and rumblings coming from the EMP are just much more clear. I thought the Polks sounded muddy at the low and alittle shrill at the highs, where the EMPs are a much more balanced speaker- good lows, excellent midbase and really good highs!

The high's definitely are night & day. Forgot to mention that, you are right.
The 70's do have more going on than the 40's.
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Yea, the PolkM70s have a designated midrange driver, and three 6.5 inch woofers...so I expect they would hit the lows better and have better midbass. The Polk m40s for me were a big dissapointment!

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The 55Ti's held up & were really nice on their own, however when I turned to stereo mode & engaged the sub, everything seemed to fall apart.(X-over is 80) I might cross these at 60 to maintain some depth.

What sub are you using? Could the sub be the weak link here? Maybe the E55Ti is too good for your sub smile.gif
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So did the speakers 'disappear' like the reviews said?
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It's not the sub. I'm running an Outlaw, I think what was happening is running the 55's in pure audio, you could hear the full range coming from the towers & then switching over to stereo mode the full sound dropped out & didn't sound as good. I think in my current set-up the sub doesn't blend with the towers that well. My sub has been moved from it's sweet spot to a temporary location. The Christmas tree take priority smile.gif. The sub is usually in the front right corner, but has been moved to outside of the left tower.
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Sorry for bugging again as I'm curious. When you said "very good highs" do you mean they are bright?
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It's not the sub. I'm running an Outlaw, I think what was happening is running the 55's in pure audio, you could hear the full range coming from the towers & then switching over to stereo mode the full sound dropped out & didn't sound as good. I think in my current set-up the sub doesn't blend with the towers that well. My sub has been moved from it's sweet spot to a temporary location. The Christmas tree take priority smile.gif. The sub is usually in the front right corner, but has been moved to outside of the left tower.

I heard some let their towers run LARGE and the sub cross at 60Hz with very good results. You can try it.
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So did the speakers 'disappear' like the reviews said?

In my room it's hard to establish a "disappearing effect"(even with Audyssey x32), it's way too lively. However what I experienced was a warm laid back sound that "demanded" you listen to them.
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Sorry for bugging again as I'm curious. When you said "very good highs" do you mean they are bright?

Not at all! My room is as lively as they come & the highs are not bright at all. They sound is very clean & detailed, especially for this price.
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I heard some let their towers run LARGE and the sub cross at 60Hz with very good results. You can try it.
That was suggested by Gene at Audioholics.
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Getting a little worried now. If these are toe and toe with Polk Monitor 70's, then these will be going back very quickly. The Polk Monitor line sounded awful to my ears. Bright, fatiguing, midrange recessed due to bloated midbass, etc. My Energy C-500 had bloated midbass (around 200 and down), recessed mids likely due to midbass hump and highs were average at best. Lets hope they live up to some of the better reviews like the mention that they're just as good in all categories as the Focal 814v


Cadett - Can you try different placements with everything? It's not as easy as just setting them up in one spot and that's it. Move them further apart, toe in, closer to wall, further from wall, etc. It'll take awhile, but usually you're rewarded with the best sound you can get from them in YOUR room.

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Agree...the tweeter in the emp is crisp, clear and detailed! Not one bit forward, as I hear with cheap horn speakers!

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Haha one last question. Do you think it sounds high end enough or put it this way - a semi-high end speaker?
I'm no longer that tehno dude I used to be... so accuracy shall be my concern now

Great btw. Keep the reviews coming

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Well it's +/- 2db and that was an in-room measurement taken from...Audioholics I believe. That's damn accurate for a speaker of this price. Room characteristics will play a part though, along with any tune/EQ you might have on it...obviously.

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And...maybe also part of the audoholic review...the speaker had a remarkable flat response, suggesting it was a very well balanced speaker!

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Getting a little worried now. If these are toe and toe with Polk Monitor 70's, then these will be going back very quickly. The Polk Monitor line sounded awful to my ears. Bright, fatiguing, midrange recessed due to bloated midbass, etc. My Energy C-500 had bloated midbass (around 200 and down), recessed mids likely due to midbass hump and highs were average at best. Lets hope they live up to some of the better reviews like the mention that they're just as good in all categories as the Focal 814v
Cadett - Can you try different placements with everything? It's not as easy as just setting them up in one spot and that's it. Move them further apart, toe in, closer to wall, further from wall, etc. It'll take awhile, but usually you're rewarded with the best sound you can get from them in YOUR room.

No need to worry. The sound produced from the EMP's is leaps & bounds over the Polk's. I was just stating that the ability of the Polk's to produce a sound wider than the speakers actual size was pretty good. The EMP's does fine in that regards.
I was just giving a first impression. I haven't had a chance to dial them in yet. No need to worry you will be getting more than your money is worth. The only thing that concerned me was the difference in pink noise from the tower to the center, but like I said, I din't hear any tonal diffidences when listening to them. Everything about these speakers are better than the Polk's, except the sound stage. They are pretty much even. With some adjusting I'm sure that can be fixed though. Let me know when you get your speakers(tomorrow if I'm not mistaken) if your center to tower varies.
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Haha one last question. Do you think it sounds high end enough or put it this way - a semi-high end speaker?
I'm no longer that tehno dude I used to be... so accuracy shall be my concern now
Great btw. Keep the reviews coming
See ya.

I feel for under a grand that this was probably about as good as it gets. I couldn't be happier. Due to the pricing, they will not fall into the "high-end" category, but if you didn't know the price, you would think they would have cost twice as much as they did.biggrin.gif
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I have owned some of the monitor speakers, and now the EMP towers, and I can tell you for me it is a clear difference. The polks are bright and the EMPs maintain clarity without being too forward. I hear a lot more detail compared to the polks. The midrange is fantastic, the polks were definitely muddy compared to these. These towers definitely benefit from a sub however. Not something that plays really deep, but I think a decent sealed sub that reinforces 60Hz and below would sound wonderful.

I am very very happy with my purchase, these speakers sound incredible and look the part as well!

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And...maybe also part of the audoholic review...the speaker had a remarkable flat response, suggesting it was a very well balanced speaker!

Yup. +/- 2db is VERY flat and should be able to sound great in most rooms since that was an in-room measurement. I won't get into the Fletcher-Munson curves though lol

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No need to worry. The sound produced from the EMP's is leaps & bounds over the Polk's. I was just stating that the ability of the Polk's to produce a sound wider than the speakers actual size was pretty good. The EMP's does fine in that regards.
I was just giving a first impression. I haven't had a chance to dial them in yet. No need to worry you will be getting more than your money is worth. The only thing that concerned me was the difference in pink noise from the tower to the center, but like I said, I din't hear any tonal diffidences when listening to them. Everything about these speakers are better than the Polk's, except the sound stage. They are pretty much even. With some adjusting I'm sure that can be fixed though. Let me know when you get your speakers(tomorrow if I'm not mistaken) if your center to tower varies.
I feel for under a grand that this was probably about as good as it gets. I couldn't be happier. Due to the pricing, they will not fall into the "high-end" category, but if you didn't know the price, you would think they would have cost twice as much as they did.biggrin.gif

Good to hear. Fedex might have realized I was getting antsy and speed up the delivery....it's looking like today! biggrin.gif

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I have owned some of the monitor speakers, and now the EMP towers, and I can tell you for me it is a clear difference. The polks are bright and the EMPs maintain clarity without being too forward. I hear a lot more detail compared to the polks. The midrange is fantastic, the polks were definitely muddy compared to these. These towers definitely benefit from a sub however. Not something that plays really deep, but I think a decent sealed sub that reinforces 60Hz and below would sound wonderful.

I am very very happy with my purchase, these speakers sound incredible and look the part as well!

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Also good to hear! Glad everyone so far is happy with them. It's hard to please this many people and that's saying something for EMP/RBH. Hope I'm one of them!




I'll ask again...does anyone have any good recommendations on wall mounts to use for the e5bi's? Looks like an omni-mount style would work well since they look to be threaded already (below port). Wish I could find some that help 10+ lbs that weren't $50+ lol. No way in hell am I taking a chance of mounting them with some of these plastic mounts. eek.gif

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So just to clear this up, these EMP speakers are better than Polk Monitor 70's & CS2? Cause I bought Polks and just sold them cause I didn't care for them while watching movies. They didn't have enough detail (?) couldn't really hear the highs that well. I picked up some BIC PL-89 & PL-28 plus 4 surround speakers. The salesman told me these were better than Klipsch unless I wanted to spend thousands more. Now these are good with the highs but lack mid bass and I'm starting to realize the bother my ears (not sure how to explain it). Especially after watching a long movie. Would that be considered "ear fatigue"? I'm still in my 20's so would like a speaker setup that I can use for at least a few years. In 2012, I started out with the Polk 70's setup and switched to the BIC's.

I have a LFM-1EX but like the look of the matching EMP sub. Would they not work well together?
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So just to clear this up, these EMP speakers are better than Polk Monitor 70's & CS2? Cause I bought Polks and just sold them cause I didn't care for them while watching movies. They didn't have enough detail (?) couldn't really hear the highs that well. I picked up some BIC PL-89 & PL-28 plus 4 surround speakers. The salesman told me these were better than Klipsch unless I wanted to spend thousands more. Now these are good with the highs but lack mid bass and I'm starting to realize the bother my ears (not sure how to explain it). Especially after watching a long movie. Would that be considered "ear fatigue"? I'm still in my 20's so would like a speaker setup that I can use for at least a few years. In 2012, I started out with the Polk 70's setup and switched to the BIC's.
I have a LFM-1EX but like the look of the matching EMP sub. Would they not work well together?

Litening to Klipsch's is like listening to a freight train. I hear one note from those horns I get ear bleed. So what you probably are experiencing is a form of ear fatigue.
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Litening to Klipsch's is like listening to a freight train. I hear one note from those horns I get ear bleed. So what you probably are experiencing is a form of ear fatigue.

They were great when I first got them cause I could hear all sorts of high's and detail but lately I've noticed them bothering me. Is there any comparison between the BIC/Klipsch vs EMP? Only for movies/tv.
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They were great when I first got them cause I could hear all sorts of high's and detail but lately I've noticed them bothering me. Is there any comparison between the BIC/Klipsch vs EMP? Only for movies/tv.

Klipsch/BIC= Dynamic in your face, EMP=Smooth transition, with clean detail.

EMP>Polk's
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I'll ask again...does anyone have any good recommendations on wall mounts to use for the e5bi's? Looks like an omni-mount style would work well since they look to be threaded already (below port). Wish I could find some that help 10+ lbs that weren't $50+ lol. No way in hell am I taking a chance of mounting them with some of these plastic mounts. eek.gif

http://emptek.com/emb.php

EMP makes wall mounts just for those E5Bi's!

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