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Old 01-29-2014, 11:25 AM
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Pretty sure it'll be a single 12". I think costs would get too high for their line with a dual 12. A lot more shipping costs, more driver costs, amp costs (unless you went with a higher efficiency design I guess), etc. Interesting thing is what are they going to go after. Dual 10" has more cone area than a single 12" so if they do anything I'd hope it's a larger ported, higher wattage style. Something geared more towards the ID subs instead of the 30hz+ subs that reside under $450ish (though I'm getting some pretty darn good 25hz numbers with my dual e1010i setup). Or maybe a PA-150 that's tuned for lower bass instead of monstrous 40hz+ material like the PA-150

Either way...video time! I was bored before work and figured I'd show the difference between my setup on Audyssey FLAT and no EQ. Obviously you're at the mercy of compression from the Galaxy s4 mic and Youtube, but you get the point. Bass and lower midrange seem non existent. Maybe I'll try it with my camera mic as you can hear the mic compress and almost cut out the dynamic peaks near the beginning/middle

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They are working on a new replacement for the ES1010i, a look at RBH's website shows they might do something like a ES1212i, since most of the EMP speakers are descendants of the RBH SX series.

In other news, I finally placed my order for a TV wall mount and an EMP E56Ci!! Can't wait for it all to arrive and get everything set up biggrin.gif

Post pictures when you do! I can't wait to get back stateside and set up my new towers. center and SVS PB-2000.


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A question for those who own the E 56ci center channel. What sort of TV furniture do you keep it in? I ask because I am going to buy one, along with a pair of E 55Tis, but the dimensions of the center speaker won't fit in my tv stand. I've been looking around for a new one and am having a hard time finding something that will fit such a large center speaker. Any suggestions?
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You're not going to find hardly anything that will fit the e56ci INSIDE the cabinet. Mostly custom stands like BDI, StandoutDesigns, etc....and those are VERY costly. I looked for a long time, but didn't want just a metal stand. I like having the center on top of my stand though and the tv wall mounted as I think it looks nicer, plus it raises the center up a little higher

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I totally agree with you ousooner. Unfortunately my wife doesn't like that look and wants the center tucked away in a cabinet. Fair enough but it puts me in a bind. If I can't find anything large enough, that's also affordable, I'm going to have to go with the E5Ci instead -- which is still pretty big for a center.
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There were only a few that I found that could fit the e56ci, but they couldn't fit any AVR, etc on the sides

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car related im very familiar with the differences between sealed and ported enclosures. currently running 2 12" fosgates in a sealed enclosure in my Titan. never liked ported enclosures since the bass was overwhelming vs the nice clean hit of a kick drum in a sealed enclosure. that's what I meant by running a sealed enclosure for music purposes on a home theatre and leaving a ported sub for movies. maybe its different when it comes to HT and car audio.

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A question for those who own the E 56ci center channel. What sort of TV furniture do you keep it in? I ask because I am going to buy one, along with a pair of E 55Tis, but the dimensions of the center speaker won't fit in my tv stand. I've been looking around for a new one and am having a hard time finding something that will fit such a large center speaker. Any suggestions?

mine sits right on top of my receiver stand since my TV is mounted on the wall. I agree, finding a cabinet to hold the E56ci is going to be tricky.

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I have a temporary setup at the moment, but when I move in the spring I plan on making my own cabinet for the TV to sit on with spaces for the center, HTPC, and reciever with a couple cabinets on the side for misc. storage. I know this may not be an answer for you, but I have the resources and it will be cheaper to just make it myself than try to find something pre-made to fit this monster.


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The e56ci is a huge center, I'll admit that it surprised me when I got it and saw how tight of a fit it was in my otherwise large entertainment center. I actually had more issues with height then anything else.


Sorry for the quality, but that's how I've got mine fitting in. As you can see, clearance of the top is the biggest problem I ran into, but with that said, the thing is pretty long. I picked up that up at Bestbuy for a decent enough price. If you want something with a closed design I think that will be much more difficult.

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The e56ci is a huge center, I'll admit that it surprised me when I got it and saw how tight of a fit it was in my otherwise large entertainment center. I actually had more issues with height then anything else.


Sorry for the quality, but that's how I've got mine fitting in. As you can see, clearance of the top is the biggest problem I ran into, but with that said, the thing is pretty long. I picked up that up at Bestbuy for a decent enough price. If you want something with a closed design I think that will be much more difficult.

Kind of off topic but I have the component stand sister to yours and the company is actually really good to work with. My dogs ran into the thing while rough housing (notice a trend here) and shattered a glass shelf. The company sent me a new one at no cost.


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car related im very familiar with the differences between sealed and ported enclosures. currently running 2 12" fosgates in a sealed enclosure in my Titan. never liked ported enclosures since the bass was overwhelming vs the nice clean hit of a kick drum in a sealed enclosure. that's what I meant by running a sealed enclosure for music purposes on a home theatre and leaving a ported sub for movies. maybe its different when it comes to HT and car audio.

I had a whole long thing written out and I decided to delete it because it can be summed up rather easily. A properly designed sealed or ported setup can sound accurate most of the time. With EQ/DSP that's even more the case. There's a lot that you can do wrong with a ported enclosure to get it to sound, what I'm assuming you're meaning as boomy and overbearing. Sealed is more fool proof to some extent, but both can sound equally good. I've had my fair share of each in cars, though just ported in home.
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The e56ci is a huge center, I'll admit that it surprised me when I got it and saw how tight of a fit it was in my otherwise large entertainment center. I actually had more issues with height then anything else.


Sorry for the quality, but that's how I've got mine fitting in. As you can see, clearance of the top is the biggest problem I ran into, but with that said, the thing is pretty long. I picked up that up at Bestbuy for a decent enough price. If you want something with a closed design I think that will be much more difficult.

Do you have issues with a lower center image when using the center? That far back on the stand and that low...I'd think that would create a lot of problems with imaging. With your mains that close together I'm surprised you even went with a center to be honest. How are you liking them?

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I was a bit concerned with imaging issues when I got the thing, and had previously played around with doing a phantom center and greatly preferred having an actual center. Also I will tell you that the center is not as far back as it looks in that picture. Playing with it a bit I can tell you the position isn't ideal and that I wish my fronts had a bit more more space (planning to move in the next 2 years so that should fix this problem) but overall I've been very pleased with the quality coming from my front sound stage. I believe the mains have about 7 1/2 feet of separation, not great, but not as bad as the picture makes it appear. Towing them in a bit actually did wonders in improving the sound from the sound in the front and is something I'm glad I did.

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Thanks all. I appreciate the input. Sounds like there's no good solution here. My preference would be to mount the tv and have the e56 sit on top of the stand. But that's not going to happen. I'm going to keep looking but will probably go with the e5 which is not quite as high or wide.

Allen, looks like you have a good set up there. Thanks for the pick. I have a similar but smaller metal stand. Wife. Wants to switch to a cabinet to hide the wires and generally improve the looks of things in the living room. Your e55 s look massive next to your stand.
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Show her pics of the center mounted on the stand and comment about how clean and elegant it looks. See if you can get away with it lol biggrin.gif

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The e56ci is a huge center, I'll admit that it surprised me when I got it and saw how tight of a fit it was in my otherwise large entertainment center. I actually had more issues with height then anything else.


Sorry for the quality, but that's how I've got mine fitting in. As you can see, clearance of the top is the biggest problem I ran into, but with that said, the thing is pretty long. I picked up that up at Bestbuy for a decent enough price. If you want something with a closed design I think that will be much more difficult.

Nice set up, Allen! Where is the Sub?

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A question for those who own the E 56ci center channel. What sort of TV furniture do you keep it in? I ask because I am going to buy one, along with a pair of E 55Tis, but the dimensions of the center speaker won't fit in my tv stand. I've been looking around for a new one and am having a hard time finding something that will fit such a large center speaker. Any suggestions?

This is all I was able to use. Without getting something custom or higher end and spending an arm and a leg, it'll be tricky to find something that houses your speakers and all your electronics.

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Sub is hiding in the rear corner of the room. Right now I've got a BIC F12 back there, but I'm pretty sure sometime later this year it'll be upgrading to a HSU VTF-15h.

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Ousooner, I hear ya. It we pick our battles, right?

Mr East side, very nice looking set up there.
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I meant, BUT we pick our battles, right?
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A question for those who own the E 56ci center channel. What sort of TV furniture do you keep it in? I ask because I am going to buy one, along with a pair of E 55Tis, but the dimensions of the center speaker won't fit in my tv stand. I've been looking around for a new one and am having a hard time finding something that will fit such a large center speaker. Any suggestions?



This is my current setup with the E56Ci on the way. I plan to wall-mount the TV and put the center on top of my TV stand. I spent a lot of time trying to find something to accommodate this future purchase, but unless you go with one of the high-end AV stands, very few stands will work.

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This is my current setup with the E56Ci on the way. I plan to wall-mount the TV and put the center on top of my TV stand. I spent a lot of time trying to find something to accommodate this future purchase, but unless you go with one of the high-end AV stands, very few stands will work.


Agreed, I spent a month or so trying to find a stand. I ended up going w/ this bell'o model. The shelf fits the center w/ a few inches to spare.

 

I changed it up a bit and mounted the tv on the wall, moved the center to on top of stand, and put the the avr on the shelf. I wasn't a fan of having the center pointing at my knees.

 

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Can someone please measure for me how far off the ground is the first of the woofers? The bottom of the woofer.

 

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assuming you mean the towers - it is roughly 8 inches


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assuming you mean the towers - it is roughly 8 inches

Yup, thanks

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allen807...I had my center sit just like yours and many members advised to pull the center forward towards the edge and boy did it make a difference.

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looks sweet! another reason why I like the look of running 2 subs. anyone find any more info on what Emptek is doing about the new sub? wondering if its worth selling my klipsch and running 2 subs for .2?

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I believe the mains have about 7 1/2 feet of separation, not great, but not as bad as the picture makes it appear.

mine are about 8.5' separation...not ideal but it's what I have to work with. what are most of you guys running space wise on your mains?

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mine are about 8.5' separation...not ideal but it's what I have to work with. what are most of you guys running space wise on your mains?

Mine are only about 7' apart, but that's as wide as I can go without blocking a door or sticking one way out in the room. I don't sit very far back so I think it works out alright for me.

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do you get any reflections or echoing having wood floors? haven't gone far back in the threads if you're running subs and surrounds?

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