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Hey Guys - I am in need of a smaller Center (short height); and from what I've read (and been told), the center should match the L/R's. So if I have to, I'll replace the L/R.

Anyone have suggestions? I don't mind spending a few hundred dollars, but nothing more than that. Also, I prefer smaller speakers.

Is Bose really THAT bad? They have the real small cube centers...

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Yes. Bose are that bad, considering the quality you can get for the same (or less) money.

For that form-factor, many on here have recommended Orb.

http://www.orbaudio.com/?gclid=CLSAw...FQJvswodSTmKag

KEF makes a small system too, like this: http://www.abt.com/product/35339/KEF-KHT10052.html <---I think the user named THE FORCE on here has those in his bedroom. Look for his setup on here...it's ridiculous.

I've never heard either of those suggestions, but have owned Bose, and there are ALWAYS going to be better alternatives.

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If you must have tiny speakers, go for the Energy Take 5 set that is on sale now. Less expensive than the Bose and far better sounding. They won't sound like big speakers, but they do better than the Boze and don't have paper drivers.
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What LR's do you have now? There might be a small matching center you can get from the same company....just a thought if you don't really want to buy all 3.
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I would say the Orb Audio's are the nicest and smallest speakers I've heard. I was surprised of the Orb's capability to produce good highs even without a dedicated tweeter.

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I guess they don't need to real small...like the orbs or kefs...but do those really project good sound quality?

I searched all over the THE FORCE on the forum, and couldn't find anything.
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What LR's do you have now? There might be a small matching center you can get from the same company....just a thought if you don't really want to buy all 3.


The front three (and sub) came with a HTIB from back in 2000 (around then). The receiver is the Kenwood-507 I believe. Not sure of the exact model number of the speakers...but I really don't have any complaints about them other than being a little larger than I like.

I definitely wouldn't mind just getting a center that would fit nice with the current kenwoods. Do you know what would fit with these acoustically?


Oh yeah, my rears are paradigms...again, not sure of the model number.
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If you can up your budget a little I'd consider the DefTech ProMonitor 800 for L/R and ProCenter 1000.

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The Kenwood's are going to be tough to match... You definitely are better off replacing all of them. And I would avoid the Bose for sure (first off they aren't very good, and secondly they are way overpriced).
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Sorry...it was "THE_FORCE"...forgot the underscore.

Here's his setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/3296005...76106283/show/
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how small is small? If you can fit decent sized bookshelves you can get a setup of Energy C-100 bookshelves + a C-C50 center for about $200 total shipped.

also, how big is the budget exactly, how critical are you about quality, and do you already have a sub? if you are willing to spend a little more and want to get max audio quality in a tiny package consider Energy RC Minis.

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Hey Guys - I am in need of a smaller Center (short height); and from what I've read (and been told), the center should match the L/R's. So if I have to, I'll replace the L/R.


Is Bose really THAT bad? They have the real small cube centers...

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The question should be, do I really need to go that small. Just about every other major speaker manufacturer makes a small competitive speaker line worth your audition before you decide.

You owe it to yourself to take all suggestions and start listening. Listen also to larger than you plan speakers from the same manufacturers to see what you might be trading off for size. Some may be cheaper.
Then decide if that loss in sound quality is worth the "small is cool" or "looks better to you" factor.

You may find that smaller speakers draw attention to themselves while larger better performing "disappear" when you start listening. Now which is smaller ?
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Well my highest priority is a smaller center so I can fit it under the tv (or on top if I am forced to by the wife!). This being said, I figure the L/R should match the center, right?

I am still not 100% sure where the sides are going to go cause I am only in the middle of my project. My first thought was getting smaller ones so they could be wall mounted.
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You could also take a look at the Monitor Audio Radius line. For the price and size, these have pretty good performance.
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Well my highest priority is a smaller center so I can fit it under the tv (or on top if I am forced to by the wife!). This being said, I figure the L/R should match the center, right?

I am still not 100% sure where the sides are going to go cause I am only in the middle of my project. My first thought was getting smaller ones so they could be wall mounted.

Yamaha makes a real small inexpensive 5 driver NS225 with very good power handling that sounds OK to some ears (bright). I'm not impressed with the rest of the line in that range, so matching the rest would be harder.
Feel free to put small bookshelves on stands..for added flexibility.
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I stopped into BB today...I really dislike that store!...anyhow, they had a decent small center in the Polk RM8...are these comparable to the orbs, kefs, or others that were recommended on this thread?

Can I go with this polk center and get other bookshelfs...or better yet, use the older kenwoods that I have?
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how small is small? If you can fit decent sized bookshelves you can get a setup of Energy C-100 bookshelves + a C-C50 center for about $200 total shipped.

also, how big is the budget exactly, how critical are you about quality, and do you already have a sub? if you are willing to spend a little more and want to get max audio quality in a tiny package consider Energy RC Minis.


Where could I find this kind of deal? $200 shipped;
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Energy C-100 for $119/pr shipped from Vann's:
http://www.amazon.com/Energy-C-100-B.../dp/B001211HPI

Energy C-C50 for $79 shipped from WWStereo:
http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/..._84__0_0_0_-1/

That's under $200 shipped. The C-C50 center is 5.75" tall so hopefully that works.

If you need smaller you can get a package of 5 Take Classic satellites (4 sats + center) for $199 shipped from WWStereo, but you definitely need a sub with these:
http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/..._84__0_0_0_-1/

You still never answered if you have a sub or not?

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Sorry about that...yes, I have the Kenwood sub that came with the htib...seems to do the job...

batpig - I am going through the energy owners thread as I type...and reading many of your posts. How do you like the RC-Mini? The C50 at 5.75"h is pretty much what I have now in the Kenwood. I was hoping for something in the 3.5-4.5" range...and I think the RC-Mini fits that...right?

Will it fill a relatively large room?
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You could also take a look at the Monitor Audio Radius line. For the price and size, these have pretty good performance.

I looked at their site...how do I know which of the radius line to use as the center channel and which to use as the L/R?
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the RC Mini is totally awesome and a large step up from the entry-level models being discussed here. They have a significantly "bigger" sound than a mini-sat like the Orb or Take Classic, they are very substantial and heavy and paired with a good sub will sound like a much more expensive speaker. They are more comparable to the Monitor Audio Radius in terms of build quality and refinement. It just depends on how critical audio quality is to you and how much money you want to throw at the problem

The RC Mini center is 4.75" tall:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...pecifications/

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Excellent...I think the mini's are the way to go for my set-up.

Now, where's the best place to get these?
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Anyone have experience with the Polk RM8s? I like the size of the center...
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