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I have been using Monoprice for AV cables with high regards to their quality, but have not used them for speaker wire. Who has them and what is your opinion of their quality? I was looking at picking up a 100 ft spool of their 16aug CL2 rated wires.

This will be used for rear surrounds with an proximately 30 ft run. Is this the right gauge?

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I tend to prefer heavy over light, so I would choose 14 AWG for 30'. But yeah, the wire is good.
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Their speaker wire is fine. I used two boxes of it when we did our basement and Russound CAM setup. I agree that I'd shoot for 14awg.

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wire chart http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable

but as above, my "personal" preference is 14 ga. minimum.

Monoprice wire is excellent for the price
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Monoprice is excellent for speaker wire...have used 3 100 foot rolls so far. No problems

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Has worked great for me so far. I have used 2 x 100ft rolls.
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I have been using Monoprice for AV cables with high regards to their quality, but have not used them for speaker wire. Who has them and what is your opinion of their quality? I was looking at picking up a 100 ft spool of their 16aug CL2 rated wires.

This will be used for rear surrounds with an proximately 30 ft run. Is this the right gauge?

Thanks, Dan


IMO, there's only one valid reason to use 16 gage zip, and that is that your connections (AVR/amp/speakers) won't easily take any thicker wire like 14 gage or 12 gage.

Go to a local hardware store and buy 1 foot of inexpensive 16 gage zip and 14 gage zip and 12 gage zip.

If you can use 12 gage zip with your connections, buy either a 100' roll or a 300' roll from monoprice; see: http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10239

I mean, we're only talking $22.93/100' or $64.17/300' for the 12 gage stuff.

Which is high quality stuff and dirt cheap.

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I was looking at picking up a 100 ft spool of their 16aug CL2 rated wires.

I ordered a 250ft spool of the 16ga CL2 stuff to run to my patio speakers and it's nice stuff. Nice thick jacket and the wires inside are nice enough.

One caveat, Monoprice tends not to pack their stuff very well, so I would expect the plastic part of the spool to arrive damaged. The spool on mine was absolutely demolished, but the wire itself was fine, heh.
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I used their 12 ga in wall wire for all 7 of my speakers. I tend to overkill installations. I bought a lot a lot of wire, connectors and cables from them to prewire my basement. It was all top quality.

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Thanks for the input. I have 100' of 14aug on order.

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I'd really like to see a good cross-section macro/photo. Anybody?

(Do we have a wire pics thread?)
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There is a pretty good pic on the monoprice site, not sure if its what you're looking for though...

All I know is that it works well for my needs!
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...t=1#largeimage

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i just ran about 250 feet of their 12 gauge cl2... seems to work fine for me...

that stuff is a beeyotch to strip though... but it was worth it, cause 12 gauge is manly...

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Considering the price difference, I would just order the 12 gauge and not worry about it. This will cover any length of run you would do in a home. If the speaker/amp connection won't accept 12 gauge wiring, you can still use it just cut the end down a little to fit the connector, you still get the added low impedance/resistance of the 12 gauge wire this way.
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i just ran about 250 feet of their 12 gauge cl2... seems to work fine for me...

that stuff is a beeyotch to strip though... but it was worth it, cause 12 gauge is manly...

Think 12AWG is hard to strip? Try stripping 0AWG power wire for car audio and let me know what you think...

I bet the in-wall stuff is a pain to strip, seeing how it's dual-jacketed. I ran some car audio speaker wire like that, and it was harder than I expected to work with.

Seriously though, I didn't think the wire was hard to strip at all. Used a standard pair of wire strippers that could accept 12AWG wire, and had no trouble whatsoever. I'd cut a strand here or there trying to pull the jacket off, but that's no big deal IMO. Then again, mine wasn't the CL2...
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There is a pretty good pic on the monoprice site, not sure if its what you're looking for though...

Yeah - it's the same picture for all sizes :P
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I am thinking of ordering the 18 AWG for my surrounds since its only about 27' and the speakers are 8 Ohms
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I am thinking of ordering the 18 AWG for my surrounds since its only about 27' and the speakers are 8 Ohms

I don't see a reason to go smaller than 16 AWG; I'd even consider 14 for that long of a run (heck, I ran 12AWG all around for my speakers). There's such a negligible price increase when you jump up in size (what, like 2-3 bucks?) and larger wire definitely won't hurt your sound, that's for sure.
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I would never use anything above 14 AWG, for any length.

I agree with cj, just get 12 AWG and don't worry about length.
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Monoprice cables and wire works great. 12 Gauge on all my speakers.
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but it was worth it, cause 12 gauge is manly...

Then 8 AWG speaker cables must be "supermanly"
"Fax Max's 8 gauge cable is as much bigger than 12 gauge, as 12 gauge is to 16 gauge. 256% bigger in fact."

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Think 12AWG is hard to strip? Try stripping 0AWG power wire for car audio and let me know what you think...

I bet the in-wall stuff is a pain to strip, seeing how it's dual-jacketed. I ran some car audio speaker wire like that, and it was harder than I expected to work with.

Seriously though, I didn't think the wire was hard to strip at all. Used a standard pair of wire strippers that could accept 12AWG wire, and had no trouble whatsoever. I'd cut a strand here or there trying to pull the jacket off, but that's no big deal IMO. Then again, mine wasn't the CL2...

You can also use a coax stripper. Those are pretty slick.
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Well..

Monoprice 12ga doesn't fit WireCare 10mm cable pants.

Prospective buyers might look to the next size up
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Just buy the 12 gauge. There is certainly nothing wrong with overbuying thickness when the speaker wire is this cheap to begin with.

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As far as quality goes, the monoprice cable is much more finely stranded than Home Depot cable of the same size, making it more pliable for going around corners, etc. The jacket is also thicker and softer too- overall a better quality wire.
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I am thinking of using their 14AWG 4 conductor cable and twisting pairs of the 14AWG together much like the DIY speaker cable that uses Canare cable.

Here's the monoprice cable:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Think its a good idea? Better than just going with 12AWG?

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does mono sell any of the 12awg speaker wires that come with the nice jacket/sleeve like monstercable, bluejeans, et al.? if so, i cant find it on their website
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I find Monoprice speaker cable to be lacking in microdynamics with a dullness in the midrange. Bass response seems a bit "loose" as well.
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I find Monoprice speaker cable to be lacking in microdynamics with a dullness in the midrange. Bass response seems a bit "loose" as well.

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