Originally Posted by ace0001a
While I can appreciate TPnBobcats' strong passion for the facts, I see no need to discredit anyone else's point of view and/or opinions either. The reality is when it comes to home audio, you can't discount the subjective nature of personal preference here. Does a $100 cable sound or perform better than a $10 one? The facts and statistics will almost always point to there not being any quantitative difference, but I won't discount what anyone would perceive. Regardless of psychological factors (i.e. brand name or the realization of price difference), I truely believe that if you got a group of people to do A/B tests and tell them that you're trying to find out if anyone can perceive a difference of one be better than the other that you will have mixed results. While anyone's subjective experiences won't "trump" facts and numbers, to me they aren't any less valid. The OP asked if he can hear a difference between the cables he has right now versus going to something more expensive or "high end". Well, I think only he can actually make that judgement. Posting a thread like this will of course lead to varied opinion and that should simply be what we have to offer. Trying to discount anyone else's opinion is not only unecessary, but also disrespectful here. With that said, I don't think it'll hurt the OP to try different cables to see what he thinks. Like I said, you'd don't have to spend alot of money for the improvement of your speaker cables. It may or may not yield a perceivable improvement, but I think anything is better than standard cheap 18 gauge speaker wire as far as build quality goes. My vote goes to Monoprice's 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable
that starts at about $20 for a 50' spool shipped, which I think is quite inexpensive.
Though i understand your sentiments, and i agree with you that subjectivity is a major factor in audio purchases, we're talking about something that is literally 100% psychological BS.
A subjective issue is one person not liking the klipsch sound versus another loving it. There are quantifiable, measurable differences between the way two speakers reproduce sound. And thats fine for someone to trust their ears and their personal feelings in a situation like that.
"hearing" a difference between speakers wires when there isnt a difference is what we call a delusion. You can literally take the same cable, tell the person that its now playing the same piece on the uber super cable (even though you're still using the same "cheapo" cable), and they will "hear" a difference because you preempted their thought by telling them its not playing on the uber super cable. Its purely psychological and its not subjective, its in essence a placebo effect.
Allowing people like that guy to voice their opinions unfettered is a disservice to the people who come to this forum looking for *useful* information, to make an informed decision or purchase. Someone who goes out with a budget of say $1k and spends $200 on cable when they could have spent $50 is going to be severely pissed when they find out they could have gotten identical performance and saved $150, or put that $150 towards better speakers, sub, avr's, etc, where they actually could have made a quantifiable, real, performance difference.
He is certainly entitled to his opinion, and he is entitled to post it. Should we be limiting people's responses to debase his opinion? absolutely not. Now, if those people are overly aggressive, and are attacking the person and not the argument, then yes, there should be some form of moderation.