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post #451 of 776 Old 04-27-2012, 06:35 PM
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I believe that sound anchor stand is adjustable. I think I read that from a post of audioguys..... Don't take my word for it though lol
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I believe that sound anchor stand is adjustable. I think I read that from a post of audioguys..... Don't take my word for it though lol

It is adjustable, I just don't know if only the speaker height is adjustable and the 2 supports on both sides stay the same height, or everything is adjustable. I'm sure the speaker can be low enough, I just don't know if the supports stay sticking up on both sides higher then I can have under my screen.
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I think funlvr1965 has his setup like you are looking for. Below screen pointing up. Mark may have custom built the stand but that was way back in the early vintage... possibly some of the first few cat trios made.

Regardless I've heard his setup and I liked it.
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I think funlvr1965 has his setup like you are looking for. Below screen pointing up. Mark may have custom built the stand but that was way back in the early vintage... possibly some of the first few cat trios made.

Regardless I've heard his setup and I liked it.

That is exactly what I'm looking for and I saw the pictures of the early stands Mark made. A little higher off the ground would be good and pointing up. An adjustable angle stand would be perfect, since I have no idea what angle I would need unless I played around and adjusted myself.
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Not sure how many of you are part of blu ray forums but I tried to start a Seaton Sound thread over there and its sinking like a lead balloon. Very few own Seaton products over there, mostly because they are skeptical.

Check out the thread here:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=199837

They need the Fugueness treatment lol
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I wouldn't think it would generate much interest. It doesn't seem to be the right forum to really understand what these speakers are about, nor the type of people that would spend $10,000 on speakers.

We are a small minority when it comes to good sound. Most people are blown away with $400 htib setups and wouldn't spend any more. No value to them.
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I wouldn't think it would generate much interest. It doesn't seem to be the right forum to really understand what these speakers are about, nor the type of people that would spend $10,000 on speakers.

We are a small minority when it comes to good sound. Most people are blown away with $400 htib setups and wouldn't spend any more. No value to them.

That is true. There are some on there that have spent that kind of money on speakers, but non who are willing to take the plunge and drop that kind of money on speakers they can't audition first. I'm not sure if being blown away/pleased with a $400 Htib would be a good or bad thing lmao. I guess us in the minority have expensive taste
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That is true. There are some on there that have spent that kind of money on speakers, but non who are willing to take the plunge and drop that kind of money on speakers they can't audition first. I'm not sure if being blown away/pleased with a $400 Htib would be a good or bad thing lmao. I guess us in the minority have expensive taste

Not expensive, just good taste.

If a $400 htib performed like a Seaton I'd have no problems buying it. lol
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Not expensive, just good taste.

If a $400 htib performed like a Seaton I'd have no problems buying it. lol

If a $400 HTIB performed well at all, a lot of us would be without a job.

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If a $400 HTIB performed well at all, a lot of us would be without a job.

Not if you were a magic $400 HTIB dealer.

The price of entry would make a much larger market available, and could offset by volume.

The only thing keeping me from owning Catalysts right now are the cost. It would take me at least a year to save up, and I'm nowhere near that yet.
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I currently have Klipsch KL-650 for L-C-R and recently acquired a pair of Submersive-HP.
Klipsch are crossed at either 80 or 60Hz depending on my experimentation mood.
They are driven by a Nuforce multi-channel digital amp -> crystal clear and great bass control.
I am actually quite happy with the Klipsch, but there's always an upgrade to be had.

Basement HT room is about 4000 cu^ft of open space, with open stairwell to main floor.
The 2 Submersive-HP kick-ass in that space, so I'm not under-gunned when it comes to subs.

So thoughts on Catalyst 8C for L-C-R ? ( The Cat 12's are probably over budget )
I assume Cat 8' should be more dynamic than the KL-650 ?
If I'm crossing Cat 8's over at 80 Hz, am I missing anything my but considering pony-ing up for Cat 12s ?
Like probably others in this thread, I'm also debating the JTR T12 or T8 route, as I already have an amp, but that can be sold off to fund Cat's.

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I currently have Klipsch KL-650 for L-C-R and recently acquired a pair of Submersive-HP.
Klipsch are crossed at either 80 or 60Hz depending on my experimentation mood.
They are driven by a Nuforce multi-channel digital amp -> crystal clear and great bass control.
I am actually quite happy with the Klipsch, but there's always an upgrade to be had.

Basement HT room is about 4000 cu^ft of open space, with open stairwell to main floor.
The 2 Submersive-HP kick-ass in that space, so I'm not under-gunned when it comes to subs.

So thoughts on Catalyst 8C for L-C-R ? ( The Cat 12's are probably over budget )
I assume Cat 8' should be more dynamic than the KL-650 ?
If I'm crossing Cat 8's over at 80 Hz, am I missing anything my but considering pony-ing up for Cat 12s ?
Like probably others in this thread, I'm also debating the JTR T12 or T8 route, as I already have an amp, but that can be sold off to fund Cat's.

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You have quite a nice home theater set-up. From everything I've read, I think either the Cats or the T12s would be a nice upgrade from the Klipsch. I haven't heard the Klipsch or the JTR's or Seatons, YET, but I got some Cats on the way. Maybe someone else who has heard these can make a more accurate comparison.
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Look what I got today

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My mother that had to stay at the house to take the delivery while I was at work. Luckily the shipment came on my lunch break, RIGHT WHEN IT STARTED TO RAIN!!!!

Notice how happy she looks..... lmao

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I just got everything up the stairs to the bedroom to play with while the basement is getting worked on. I don't think my bedroom walls or electric current can handle these bad boys so gonna go easy on them until they move to their permanent home. Everything is in position and looks so overwhelming.
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Congrats..... More pics
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More pictures are to come for sure. Right now they are in a bedroom lol. That is until the theater is done. I'll take a couple of pics of the system in the bedroom but the photo candy is to come when the home theater room is finally done.
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<Snip> Right now they are in a bedroom lol. That is until the theater is done. <Snip> 

For now I am also using my ~2300 cf bedroom as a temp HT also having three Cat12C's & two early SubM's. (Awaiting their universal input voltage HP upgrade amps)


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Is anyone running sparks all around? I started considering an upgrade for my apartment. It is not a dedicated room. I was holding for the upgrade until I move so I can have a dedicated room, but it is taking forever and I am thinking of this as a stop-gap system. Will 9 sparks be too much in a small room? I obviously do not have a projector so the center channel will need to be placed above TV and tilted down. I am also thinking of 2 submersives for 9.2 system. Overkill?
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Well, I can't speak to Sparks all around, but I'd think it'd be sweet. However, two SubMs in an apartment? eek.gif Are you isolated to some degree from your neighbors?

Other thoughts would be the smaller Catalyst 8C, here. And wait on the additional effects channels for upgrades. All would depend on listening room distances, needs, preferences etc. Also, some measure of acoustic isolation from neighbors.

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Well, I can't speak to Sparks all around, but I'd think it'd be sweet. However, two SubMs in an apartment? eek.gif Are you isolated to some degree from your neighbors?
Other thoughts would be the smaller Catalyst 8C, here. And wait on the additional effects channels for upgrades. All would depend on listening room distances, needs, preferences etc. Also, some measure of acoustic isolation from neighbors.
Best of luck
Does anyone use spark with non AT screen? I don't have a projector. So center will be horizontally mounted over the display. Will this work?
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I am using my Cat12C over my 71" Samsung.


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Does anyone use spark with non AT screen? I don't have a projector. So center will be horizontally mounted over the display. Will this work?

Yes, that will work just fine. The Spark is a lot lighter than a Catalyst and some have mounted their Cats above displays.

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Does anyone use spark with non AT screen? I don't have a projector. So center will be horizontally mounted over the display. Will this work?

I don't have an AT screen but my sparks are below and next to the screen

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I don't have an AT screen but my sparks are below and next to the screen
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looks like you placed the center horizontally, yes? They usually say it is a very bad idea in these forums even though I read Mark Seaton say it was OK with his designs.
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I am using my Cat12C over my 71" Samsung.
Are you tilting it? What kind of wall mount do you have?
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However, two SubMs in an apartment? eek.gif Are you isolated to some degree from your neighbors?
I am coming from an HTIB type subwoofer, so it is hard for me to imagine the impact of submersive. From what I read there will be day and night difference. I do not have shared walls with neigbors, but I am on the top floor, so there are people living downstairs. Will the sound leak through carpet to them? I generally do not listen at very high volumes. Do you feel I am overdoing by getting 2?
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Are you tilting it? What kind of wall mount do you have?

 Yes I am tilting it. No wall mount. It is resting on a shelf that is supported on the front side by the TV and the rear by two supports from the TV's stand.


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I am coming from an HTIB type subwoofer, so it is hard for me to imagine the impact of submersive. From what I read there will be day and night difference. I do not have shared walls with neigbors, but I am on the top floor, so there are people living downstairs. Will the sound leak through carpet to them? I generally do not listen at very high volumes. Do you feel I am overdoing by getting 2?

Hard to say specifically without analyzing the specific construction/isolation between dwelling units. However, you may consider a well integrated, fully optimized tactile transducer system, such as the Crowson, then subsequently combine the acoustic output of your SubMersive(s) with the tactile rig thus enjoying the naturalness of th acoustic bass, yet maintain a somewhat lower playback level because of the Crowson tactile system imparting the needed visceral component of your bass jones.

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Hard to say specifically without analyzing the specific construction/isolation between dwelling units. However, you may consider a well integrated, fully optimized tactile transducer system, such as the Crowson, then subsequently combine the acoustic output of your SubMersive(s) with the tactile rig thus enjoying the naturalness of th acoustic bass, yet maintain a somewhat lower playback level because of the Crowson tactile system imparting the needed visceral component of your bass jones.
Best of luck
I actually have buttkicker. The implementation is anything but seamless smile.gif (I installed it). But I still get the upgrade itch for a real subwoofer for the mid-LFE.

Would something like this work?

http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-Subwoofer-Isolation-15x15x2-inch-Charcoal/dp/B001140OZ0
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^^^

I don't think the pad will do much good. The SubM is already inert so vibrations are not likely related to physical transfer from the feet to the floor. The acoustic energy itself is omnidirectional and would be of concern in an apartment situation. This energy can not only pass through carpet, but wood, floors, glass, etc... That said, from the sound of it you are not going to run this rig at reference levels very often so I wouldn't be too worried about it. A lot depends on your habits, the flooring structure and your neighbors. FWIW, Audyssey's next iteration will offer some sort of algorithm which allegedly helps to filter out some of the room-specific offending resonant bass frequencies which cause problems like this for apt. dwellers. Regarding 1 vs. 2 Submersives, I'd stick with 2. Having 2 does not mean you need to run them hot or turn up volume. 2 non-colocated subs help smooth in-room fq. response before EQ which could actually help with the apt. problem. smile.gif

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I actually have buttkicker. The implementation is anything but seamless smile.gif (I installed it). But I still get the upgrade itch for a real subwoofer for the mid-LFE.
Would something like this work?
http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-Subwoofer-Isolation-15x15x2-inch-Charcoal/dp/B001140OZ0

 

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