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post #991 of 1006 Old 04-20-2015, 05:11 AM
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There's more concern about making sure amplifiers are protected from crossing the 2 channels vs woofer/tweeter swap. I've always had a LF/DC protection and noise shaping filter on the tweeters, so even if the woofer signal is sent to the tweeter, you would have to turn it way up before you could do any damage, and it would be pretty obvious when running setup that it was wired incorrectly. This is an issue with any active speaker, and even with SpeakON's is possible to wire things incorrectly when doing field termination after pulling wires. That's why everyone needs to test their system to insure sounds are going where they are supposed to before they let it rip. I agree though that a clear pictorial will be important. I also think there are plenty of customers and installers who will manage to get the wiring sorted without breaking anything and appreciate the space, time and cost savings of standard wiring.
I didn't realize you still had some passive components on the tweeter. That would definitely take care of that problem.

Now I just need to work on rewiring my room.
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The speakon connectors are a little tricky to wire up (at the amp end) and care would need to be taken at the speaker end to ensure the right connectors go to the intended driver. I have trouble getting the 2 conductor Speakon's right as the ID numbers on the speakon connectors are nearly illegible (to my old eyes ).

There are a couple of decent youtube videos on speakon wiring but AFAIR they are 2 conductor. You might want to prepare a speaker cable wiring instruction sheet to help out hapless folks like me ...
This is the exact same setup as my M2's Rob, and if a guy with my retarded mechanical aptitude can do it anyone can .

Now as to the geriatric vision....well, that's a whole 'nother topic
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This is the exact same setup as my M2's Rob, and if a guy with my retarded mechanical aptitude can do it anyone can .

Now as to the geriatric vision....well, that's a whole 'nother topic
I find one of these is very helpful for reading minuscule type on things like Speakon connectors. The 40x magnification is great, and the bright LED really helps too.
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This is the exact same setup as my M2's Rob, and if a guy with my retarded mechanical aptitude can do it anyone can .

Now as to the geriatric vision....well, that's a whole 'nother topic
I would have a similar reply. My previous speakers, Yorkvillue U215s, had speak on connectors. If I can do it..ANYBODY CAN!!!! Oh sure they tried to trick me with the bi-wiring option so each connector had two positives and negative connections but after 13 hours of effort, I got there!!!!
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New one in Town

Hello All

I owned two submersive and always wanted to get Cat12's. I finally got Cat 12's for LCR from Chuck (Audio Guy) and Mark was nice enough to sell two previous version Sparks to me as well to go all Seaton.

I will be waiting for new sparks to be available for my atmos application. I cannot wait to get.

Cheers

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Hello All

I owned two submersive and always wanted to get Cat12's. I finally got Cat 12's for LCR from Chuck (Audio Guy) and Mark was nice enough to sell two previous version Sparks to me as well to go all Seaton.

I will be waiting for new sparks to be available for my atmos application. I cannot wait to get.

Cheers

Raj
Enjoy! i am sure that is a killer system.

Any pics ?

a review would be great too!

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Enjoy! i am sure that is a killer system.

Any pics ?

a review would be great too!

Thanks. I am yet to get them (being shipped as we speak). Once I have them, will take pictures and do a review.

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This is the exact same setup as my M2's Rob, and if a guy with my retarded mechanical aptitude can do it anyone can .

Now as to the geriatric vision....well, that's a whole 'nother topic
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I would have a similar reply. My previous speakers, Yorkvillue U215s, had speak on connectors. If I can do it..ANYBODY CAN!!!! Oh sure they tried to trick me with the bi-wiring option so each connector had two positives and negative connections but after 13 hours of effort, I got there!!!!
For some reason many pre-made cables are still sold with the NL4FC connectors from the original FC series by Neutrik or a look-alike. The SPX series which includes the NL4FX is simpler to assemble with 3 rather than 4 pieces, has larger and easier to align screw terminals, and has 2 of the 4 terminals labeled in white lettering on the body. The pattern alternates, so it's pretty easy to sort out, even if you can't be sure of the raised lettering in the black plastic. If you click on the "assembly instructions" link on either the Parts Express page or here on Neutrik's own site, you will see that you can figure which is which just by the orientation to the metal locking tab.

For those wanting a simpler solution and can provide a cable length, we can terminate the 4 conductor cable for you and leave the other ready to fish through a wall and terminate to the binding posts with the colors labeled. Keeping the SpeakON at the amplifier does insure that once the wiring is confirmed, components can always be moved and re-connected in the rack without concern.

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Stands for Sparks

Hello

I just placed an order with Mark for Older Sparks and will be shipped soon. these will be for my surround duties. Can some one recommend a stand for these?

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Hello

I just placed an order with Mark for Older Sparks and will be shipped soon. these will be for my surround duties. Can some one recommend a stand for these?

Cheers

Raj

I do not have the Sparks for rears but I have seen others use the same mounts that I use. Here are three links to basically the same mounts. I use the one in the first link. Pay attention to the width as the first and last links are 11" wide and the middle link is 12" wide. I think the Sparks will work with any of them but check the width to make sure.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DCAOHK/...EA68378Z&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-Mount...99TS57H4N26PS5

http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Clam...99TS57H4N26PS5
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Seaton Sound at AXPONA 2015

Hey all- I just wanted to say how impressed I was by Mark's system at Axpona. It was definitely one of the highlights of the show. The Interstellar and Art of Flight demos were something to experience.

I own several Submersives and my theater room is 15'x24' with 9' ceilings. I have what I believe is pretty intense bass. Mark's demo room was huge, something like 30'x50' with 20' ceilings. With 8 Submersives, this was one of the most visceral experiences I have ever had in home theater. I didn't know how powerful his subs were until now. Oh, and the Cat12s and newly redesigned sparks were beauties and every bit as powerful and precise as his subs.

BTW, It was also nice to meet a very knowledgable member of the forums, FOH. Thanks for our conversation!

Thanks again for the fantastic ride Mark!
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I do not have the Sparks for rears but I have seen others use the same mounts that I use. Here are three links to basically the same mounts. I use the one in the first link. Pay attention to the width as the first and last links are 11" wide and the middle link is 12" wide. I think the Sparks will work with any of them but check the width to make sure.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DCAOHK/...EA68378Z&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-Mount...99TS57H4N26PS5

http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Clam...99TS57H4N26PS5
Thanks for your message. I need a floor stander and thinking about this
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SS36

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After watching the Facebook video clip of Mark showing the demo room at Axpona, I really hope we get to see some demo clips of that setup in action!
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Hey all- I just wanted to say how impressed I was by Mark's system at Axpona. It was definitely one of the highlights of the show. The Interstellar and Art of Flight demos were something to experience.

I own several Submersives and my theater room is 15'x24' with 9' ceilings. I have what I believe is pretty intense bass. Mark's demo room was huge, something like 30'x50' with 20' ceilings. With 8 Submersives, this was one of the most visceral experiences I have ever had in home theater. I didn't know how powerful his subs were until now. Oh, and the Cat12s and newly redesigned sparks were beauties and every bit as powerful and precise as his subs.

BTW, It was also nice to meet a very knowledgable member of the forums, FOH. Thanks for our conversation!

Thanks again for the fantastic ride Mark!
You were impressed with Mark's system but placed an order with JTR. 😯
J/k. Enjoy your new speaker!!!
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Hey all- I just wanted to say how impressed I was by Mark's system at Axpona. It was definitely one of the highlights of the show. The Interstellar and Art of Flight demos were something to experience.

I own several Submersives and my theater room is 15'x24' with 9' ceilings. I have what I believe is pretty intense bass. Mark's demo room was huge, something like 30'x50' with 20' ceilings. With 8 Submersives, this was one of the most visceral experiences I have ever had in home theater. I didn't know how powerful his subs were until now. Oh, and the Cat12s and newly redesigned sparks were beauties and every bit as powerful and precise as his subs.

BTW, It was also nice to meet a very knowledgable member of the forums, FOH. Thanks for our conversation!

Thanks again for the fantastic ride Mark!
I have to agree with you, I got a chance to sit through a demo on Saturday afternoon and the sheer sound pressure of that room was amazing....I was also in the Emotiva room next door and Dan(Emotiva owner) commented on the impact of that room.....all good stuff....now I just need two more submersive f2s!
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You were impressed with Mark's system but placed an order with JTR. 😯
J/k. Enjoy your new speaker!!!

I also bought 2 more F2's from Mark. I think Mark and Jeff are both very meticulous designers. They share the same philosophy of "no holds barred" audio, although they go about it differently. At this point I was interested in a fullrange floorstanding speaker.
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