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Anyone had the pleasure of owning any Seaton products outside of the US or Canada yet?

I live in Dubai, UAE and I have a SubMersive on order.
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I live in Dubai, UAE and I have a SubMersive on order.

What type of freight are you using and roughly the cost if you don't mind me asking.
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Anyone had the pleasure of owning any Seaton products outside of the US or Canada yet?

Maybe somewhere next week..
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Maybe somewhere next week..

Indeed. Your Catalysts are "on the bench" and likely to be packed up tomorrow, shipping out between Thurs-Monday depending on the logistics involved with a 400lb pallet heading to the Netherlands.

I very much look forward to your impressions, especially with them complimenting your pair of SubMersives.

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What type of freight are you using and roughly the cost if you don't mind me asking.

It was done through FedEx and the shipping charges were $499.70.
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Indeed. Your Catalysts are "on the bench" and likely to be packed up tomorrow, shipping out between Thurs-Monday depending on the logistics involved with a 400lb pallet heading to the Netherlands.

I very much look forward to your impressions, especially with them complimenting your pair of SubMersives.

With all the demanding titles purchased over the years (like opera, live concerts, Tiesto, "demo movies") I can hardly wait...
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I viewed "Watchmen" last night in all its DTS-MA glory. decent movie for surround and bass.... not excellent... like the movie....

The sparks were very dynamic and crystal clear... I like the more forward nature of the sparks as a center channel. Makes dialog very intelligible... I found myself with the volume much higher than I normally would... not sure why? is it because of the ease?

but I watched that whole movie between 0 and -2db where normally I am -8 to -10 db person..... I often crank it up on loud or soft scenes but I cant remember watching an entire movie recently at near reference level....

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Indeed. Your Catalysts are "on the bench" and likely to be packed up tomorrow, shipping out between Thurs-Monday depending on the logistics involved with a 400lb pallet heading to the Netherlands.

I very much look forward to your impressions, especially with them complimenting your pair of SubMersives.

Mark,

Anything to Australia yet.
I'm looking at upgrading my whole system 3 cats, 4 sparks, 2 subs but probably can't do it at once.
I'm afraid of the shipping costs involved though.
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Mark,

Anything to Australia yet.
I'm looking at upgrading my whole system 3 cats, 4 sparks, 2 subs but probably can't do it at once.
I'm afraid of the shipping costs involved though.

Just send Mark an email to get a quote.

Asking for a quote doesn't mean you are committing yourself to buy. hmm, in each case I did, so maybe you are... j/k
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Indeed. Your Catalysts are "on the bench" and likely to be packed up tomorrow, shipping out between Thurs-Monday depending on the logistics involved with a 400lb pallet heading to the Netherlands.

I very much look forward to your impressions, especially with them complimenting your pair of SubMersives.


Are there more than a few Catalysts on the bench by any chance?

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Just checking into this thread......

Trio of Catalysts here..... Lovin it
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Just checking into this thread......

Trio of Catalysts here..... Lovin it

Now you need the sparks for your surrounds. I'm sure everyone who attended your HT meets would agree.
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Now you need the sparks for your surrounds. I'm sure everyone who attended your HT meets would agree.

Oh there you go being the devil again... even if it is the "blue" devil.. come to think of it you also introduced me to that devil of a beer that had a blue associated as well
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Oh there you go being the devil again... even if it is the "blue" devil.. come to think of it you also introduced me to that devil of a beer that had a blue associated as well

Me? The devil? Come on now... If I remember right....that beer didn't last long. It did have a Blue label associated with it, and it might of made you a little Blue on Sunday....However....You would of been singing the Blues if Mark would of pulled his Catalysts out of your theater....Correction....YOUR Catalysts now.

I'll give you until November or December....You'll have Seaton Sparks in the theater by then.
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As much as I'd love that to be the case it will take awhle for the bank to recover after the catalyst purchase...

That said... the only thing blue will be this guy while holding his breath waiting for the sparks to be installed end of year
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Ok 4 pages and not a single picture of a catalyst in the "official" thread...

Where's the love?
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Fixed



and a favorite with the screen wall in place but speaker lighting on

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and a favorite with the screen wall in place but speaker lighting on



Very nice z-man. Thanks for the pictures of your Catalysts. I really like your speaker lighting.

Don't forget everyone: Tomorrow is the last day to get the discount on the Sparks.

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you running a phantom center design?

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you running a phantom center design?

No ... center is middle screen which is SMX
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When purchasing any of the Seaton products what adjustments, setup, calibration has to be made to the products when we receive them in our homes.
I believe the submersive needs an external EQ of some sort ie (DSP-30/SMS-1 etc).
What is needed with the Catalysts/Sparks and are we going to be able to get near the best out of them without a calibration service from Mark?
The reason I ask is I'm oversea's.
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those are sweet looking

anyone know the crossover point between the 8" driver and the dual 12" drivers ?

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When purchasing any of the Seaton products what adjustments, setup, calibration has to be made to the products when we receive them in our homes.
I believe the submersive needs an external EQ of some sort ie (DSP-30/SMS-1 etc).
What is needed with the Catalysts/Sparks and are we going to be able to get near the best out of them without a calibration service from Mark?
The reason I ask is I'm oversea's.

I don't think you need an EQ. Just like any sub, an eq might be helpful if there are any room issues. Also, the Catalysts and Sparks are ready to go as is I believe. The only thing you really need to make sure of is that you have enough outlets as all of Marks speakers are powered. If you have calibrated a system before, then you could probably set these up also. You can also ask Mark for help if you need it. Just go on his forum and I think he will be happy to assist you in setting up the speakers.

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Yep,

the only real requirement for using marks speakers is that you need a pre/pro/receiver with pre-outs either XLR (preferred) or RCA. Marks supplies the XLR to RCA Adapter so those using mid grade receivers like Onkyo 8XX just plug that in. There is a gain adjustment which should not need to be used and thats it. No fancy EQ or setting up of DSP is done by the end user. Of course most any sub install can benefit from an EQ. The DSP internal all of marks speakers is for him to use when he impliments the speakers and not something that is tweaked by an end user.

One exception for this might be in wall mounting for the mains where the DSP program is different because of the mounting. According to mark thats just requires a couple of button presses on the back of the speaker to get it to load the altnerate DSP program for the in wall setups....

definetely you will need power cords and in my case also some extension cors to tie all these into a switched power conditioner....

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Yep,

the only real requirement for using marks speakers is that you need a pre/pro/receiver with pre-outs either XLR (preferred) or RCA. Marks supplies the XLR to RCA Adapter so those using mid grade receivers like Onkyo 8XX just plug that in. There is a gain adjustment which should not need to be used and thats it. No fancy EQ or setting up of DSP is done by the end user. Of course most any sub install can benefit from an EQ. The DSP internal all of marks speakers is for him to use when he impliments the speakers and not something that is tweaked by an end user.

One exception for this might be in wall mounting for the mains where the DSP program is different because of the mounting. According to mark thats just requires a couple of button presses on the back of the speaker to get it to load the alternate DSP program for the in wall setups....

definitely you will need power cords and in my case also some extension cords to tie all these into a switched power conditioner....

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Thanks Sean
I figured that was the case but had to ask.
I didn't think it would be possible for Mark to set up every speaker he sells.

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Does anyone think these can be run as a phantom center in a 5.2 for a while?
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sure... they sound fine this way to me and they have a pretty wide dispersion pattern... Its the people sitting off center that always suffer with no center channel....

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those are sweet looking

anyone know the crossover point between the 8" driver and the dual 12" drivers ?

Hi otk,

Thanks, we're finishing up Ettepet's Catalysts today, and I have to say I'm still quite fond of the look and stature of them.

The crossover is handled via the OEM programmable (only) DSP in the on board 3 channel amplifiers. The crossover between the 12" sealed woofers and the 8" coaxial midrange is in the 200Hz range to allow both smooth on/off axis integration and allow some creative implementation which allows a very good phase response through crossover, keeping the total spread of signal from high to low frequency very tight for a 3 way speaker.

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Does anyone think these can be run as a phantom center in a 5.2 for a while?

As Sean noted above, they work very well, or as well as phantom center will work. Hudda is currently using a pair of Sparks(destined for surround duty) for
L/R in his theater while waiting his Catalysts.

The Spark works very well as a center channel, but it certainly makes sense to enjoy a pair of Sparks for a while as you are building up the system you really want over time. In fact this is something I highly encourage, as it is easy to start with 2-3 Sparks and later upgrade the LCR to Catalysts, moving the Sparks to surround duty and adding as budget and space allow.

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