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I have a question Im hoping someone can help me understand.

I was watching enders game today (as an example) and noticed the bottom light on either side of both gain knobs on my Inuke 6000 were lighting up yellow when loud bass was playing.
I was listening at -5 when I noticed this, so I turned it down and played the scene again with it at -15 the lights lit up exactly the same time and length.
I also tried turning the gain knobs down but that also did nothing for the light.

Does anyone know what this means on the Inuke? Seems like it is clipping, but the manual doesn't really explain this more than to say the whole range of lights are to indicate clipping.
The gain knobs are at about 1:00.
So is 1 light bad? It lit up for about 1 second solid during the scene.
This seems like its clipping but I thought (I assume Im wrong here based on the evidence) if the main volume or gain knobs were lowered the clipping would stop, however replaying the scene at various volumes/gain levels resulted in the same light pattern.

Based on listening distance and calibrated volume I should be using less than 100 watts at peak during that time.(I could be wrong was using Crowns calculator.)

Anyone have any insight to offer me here, I want to make sure Im not clipping and doing any harm here.

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I have a question Im hoping someone can help me understand.

I was watching enders game today (as an example) and noticed the bottom light on either side of both gain knobs on my Inuke 6000 were lighting up yellow when loud bass was playing.
I was listening at -5 when I noticed this, so I turned it down and played the scene again with it at -15 the lights lit up exactly the same time and length.
I also tried turning the gain knobs down but that also did nothing for the light.

Does anyone know what this means on the Inuke? Seems like it is clipping, but the manual doesn't really explain this more than to say the whole range of lights are to indicate clipping.
The gain knobs are at about 1:00.
So is 1 light bad? It lit up for about 1 second solid during the scene.
This seems like its clipping but I thought (I assume Im wrong here based on the evidence) if the main volume or gain knobs were lowered the clipping would stop, however replaying the scene at various volumes/gain levels resulted in the same light pattern.

Based on listening distance and calibrated volume I should be using less than 100 watts at peak during that time.(I could be wrong was using Crowns calculator.)

Anyone have any insight to offer me here, I want to make sure Im not clipping and doing any harm here.

Thanks everyone!
The bottom light indicates the amp is getting a signal. The stronger the signal, the more lights will light up. When the top red LIMIT LED lights up continuously, then you have clipping.
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The bottom light indicates the amp is getting a signal. The stronger the signal, the more lights will light up. When the top red LIMIT LED lights up continuously, then you have clipping.
Ahh Thanks DD, I was hopping I didn't have something setup totally wrong.
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Ahh Thanks DD, I was hopping I didn't have something setup totally wrong.
How are you speakers levels? At what level are they +1, -5 etc.. You want to get them as close to 0 as you can. Where are your attenuators set at on the inuke. 12 o'clock? Are you level matched at 75db? One light is not bad, red lights are bad!
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How are you speakers levels? At what level are they +1, -5 etc.. You want to get them as close to 0 as you can. Where are your attenuators set at on the inuke. 12 o'clock? Are you level matched at 75db? One light is not bad, red lights are bad!
Doing my 1st calibration today I was at -5.5 on the RT's.
Im going to do another and try to get as close to 0 as possible. (I was guessing that is what the desired result was but didnt know for sure. So you read my mind!)

Thanks for the input Reef!
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Doing my 1st calibration today I was at -5.5 on the RT's.
Im going to do another and try to get as close to 0 as possible. (I was guessing that is what the desired result was but didnt know for sure. So you read my mind!)

Thanks for the input Reef!
My RT's are at 0.0 and my RM is +1.0. All 4 of my S8's are at -2.5. I'm using Crown XLS 1500's and for the 215's the gain is at 12:00 and for the S8's its at 3:00. I'm using a Yamaha CX-A5000 so no Audyssey.

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My RT's are at 0.0 and my RM is +1.0. All 4 of my S8's are at -2.5. I'm using Crown XLS 1500's and for the 215's the gain is at 12:00 and for the S8's its at 3:00. I'm using a Yamaha CX-A5000 so no Audyssey.
I am having issues with my new processor, but my readings were all like around +5. When I set up with my 4520, Everything was very close to 0. I have some work to do. I just reset my microprocessor, but I need to get out there and start tuning.
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Even John Wick's balls are not as inflated as Tom Brady's
Nothing for a bad pun for over inflated balls? C'mon guys where has the humor go e I this thread? Complaining about sh$t components? C'mon, we are better than that. We are JTR owners!
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Nothing for a bad pun for over inflated balls? C'mon guys where has the humor gone in this thread? Complaining about sh$t components? C'mon, we are better than that. We are JTR owners!
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Nothing for a bad pun for over inflated balls? C'mon guys where has the humor gone in this thread? Complaining about sh$t components? C'mon, we are better than that. We are JTR owners!
You have it backwards, Tom Brady prefers Deflated balls to bolster his Inflated Ego.

Deflated balls or Inflated ego Tom Brady is still the best quarterback in the NFL and the Patriots are the reigning Superbowl Champions.
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My RT's are at 0.0 and my RM is +1.0. All 4 of my S8's are at -2.5. I'm using Crown XLS 1500's and for the 215's the gain is at 12:00 and for the S8's its at 3:00. I'm using a Yamaha CX-A5000 so no Audyssey.
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I am having issues with my new processor, but my readings were all like around +5. When I set up with my 4520, Everything was very close to 0. I have some work to do. I just reset my microprocessor, but I need to get out there and start tuning.

Not sure why you both are shooting for 0 level settings on your AVR/SSP. If I set my levels to 0 I would have approx. 85db test tones from my processor. There's really nothing wrong with that as theoretical reference would then be -10db but I just prefer having 0 MV as the reference level on my system.

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Not sure why you both are shooting for 0 level settings on your AVR/SSP. If I set my levels to 0 I would have approx. 85db test tones from my processor. There's really nothing wrong with that as theoretical reference would then be -10db but I just prefer having 0 MV as the reference level on my system.
I wasn't shooting for zero but that's where I am. I can tell you when I had the gains on the Crowns at max the system was way out of balance....-15 was seriously loud. Now it's a better overall balance and it just so happens I'm at 0 with the RT's. So I guess you could say -15 was reference with that gain setting.

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Out of curiosity, Rob, what levels does your marantz set your 215's?

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Out of curiosity, Rob, what levels does your marantz set your 215's?

Approximately -8db for a 75db test tone with the gains on my amps also in the middle (12 o'clock settings).

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Greetings,

I have been trying to get in touch with J.P. I've called, I've written, and no response.

Anyone have any ideas about how or when is the best way or time to get with him?

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Not sure why you both are shooting for 0 level settings on your AVR/SSP. If I set my levels to 0 I would have approx. 85db test tones from my processor. There's really nothing wrong with that as theoretical reference would then be -10db but I just prefer having 0 MV as the reference level on my system.
The lower the attenuators are on my inuke the lower the hiss coming from the 215's when nothing is playing.
Ideally I would turn them all the way down, but then the AVR is at +7 or 8.
I ASSume, that if the AVR is boosting the signal to +7 or +8 there is less headroom? (big assumption here)
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