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I have a panamax 5400. I think I paid $500 for it at Crutchfield. I put everything into it except for my amps. As it is said not to plug your amps into them. On a side note, I am in the process of buying a complete home generator. I am getting a natural gas unit. I think there is a 5 second delay if there is interruption. Me an my wife really talked about this and living in a Hurricane zone and with the recent power outages that surrounded us, we have decided we are going to do it. I am going to have a blast when the power is out for a day or two here and my neighbors hear my bass. Going to love every minute of that!
I just recently sold my power generation company, or I would send my guys over to do the install for you. I was a dealer for Generac, Kohler, and Cummins Onan, so if you have any questions let me know I can probably steer you in the right direction. I know the differences between the brands very well.
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I just recently sold my power generation company, or I would send my guys over to do the install for you. I was a dealer for Generac, Kohler, and Cummins Onan, so if you have any questions let me know I can probably steer you in the right direction. I know the differences between the brands very well.
Do you know anything about Corbin? I was dealing with Home Depot. Corbin is the company that does it for Home Depot. I am planning on going with a Generac NG. I wish you would have said something, I would have done this years ago if I knew you were involved with generators.
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Do you know anything about Corbin? I was dealing with Home Depot. Corbin is the company that does it for Home Depot. I am planning on going with a Generac NG. I wish you would have said something, I would have done this years ago if I knew you were involved with generators.
Yeah, I typically don't talk about my businesses around here. I'm not telling you not to go with Home Depot, all I'll say is I've had to shake my head many times at the craftsmanship of the jobs I've seen done through Home Depot. Amazing they pass inspections, but it's been a free for all since Sandy and many inspectors will slap a sticker on anything.

The problem is the low margins they're operating under dealing with Home Depot. It's all about volume and slapping them in as fast as possible. It really depends on your tolerance for poor workmanship vs. price. They're cheap, that's for sure. I didn't even bother trying to compete in that space. No way I could put my name on work like that. But I was more money and sometimes that's all some folks are worried about.

Nothing wrong with Generac generators though. I would just think twice about a high volume, low margin installer though.

Just my 2c.
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You also need to talk to your power company. For instance, where I'm at you cant install a generator that touches the power companies grid without using one of their approved ats's first.
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Yeah, I typically don't talk about my businesses around here. I'm not telling you not to go with Home Depot, all I'll say is I've had to shake my head many times at the craftsmanship of the jobs I've seen done through Home Depot. Amazing they pass inspections, but it's been a free for all since Sandy and many inspectors will slap a sticker on anything.

The problem is the low margins they're operating under dealing with Home Depot. It's all about volume and slapping them in as fast as possible. It really depends on your tolerance for poor workmanship vs. price. They're cheap, that's for sure. I didn't even bother trying to compete in that space. No way I could put my name on work like that. But I was more money and sometimes that's all some folks are worried about.

Nothing wrong with Generac generators though. I would just think twice about a high volume, low margin installer though.

Just my 2c.
Not to run this off course, but the only reason I had been going through HD was because I seen the units there and they said they installed them? I really have never seen any generator companies, especially living down here. If you know who I should call that is in my area or who will do the work, shoot me a PM or a text!
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Hey All,

First time poster in this thread, but have been following it for a while. I am starting a build on a new theater with a goal of finishing it by the end of the year. I plan on going with the 228HT for the LCR. I plan on doing 7.2 with atmos.

Does anyone have any recommendations for surround speakers that would match up well with the 228HTs? I'm still working on my overall budget but I feel that getting four 8s would break it.

Also, what ceiling speakers would you all recommend for Atmos? I'd like to keep them under $500 each.
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Hey All,

First time poster in this thread, but have been following it for a while. I am starting a build on a new theater with a goal of finishing it by the end of the year. I plan on going with the 228HT for the LCR. I plan on doing 7.2 with atmos.

Does anyone have any recommendations for surround speakers that would match up well with the 228HTs? I'm still working on my overall budget but I feel that getting four 8s would break it.

Also, what ceiling speakers would you all recommend for Atmos? I'd like to keep them under $500 each.
I ran Reaction Audio's CX-8's with my 228HT's and they worked great together, forum member rboster used the CX-8's with his JTR T8's and really liked them also and forum member Ryanboston has two pairs of CX-8's running with his 228HT's again also really likes them. You could also take a look at the DIYsoundgroup's Volt series speakers.


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Hey All,

First time poster in this thread, but have been following it for a while. I am starting a build on a new theater with a goal of finishing it by the end of the year. I plan on going with the 228HT for the LCR. I plan on doing 7.2 with atmos.

Does anyone have any recommendations for surround speakers that would match up well with the 228HTs? I'm still working on my overall budget but I feel that getting four 8s would break it.

Also, what ceiling speakers would you all recommend for Atmos? I'd like to keep them under $500 each.
Reaction Audio CX-8s have been getting good reviews & I have heard some people going with JBL pro stuff like SCS 8 or the 8340a. I considered all of these, but in the end I went with JTR slanted 8 and I am glad I did .
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Hi all, Ive followed the JTR thread for a while, always wanted set but didn't think it would happen. I purchased dholmes triple 12's and felt I got a good deal. After getting them set up and running audyssey I realize I got a smoking deal on these and almost feel guilty, keyword there is almost. Stoked I have something to build my HT off of and hopefully wont feel the need to upgrade in the speaker department. just wanted to share that


They are truly awesome!!


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Hi all, Ive followed the JTR thread for a while, always wanted set but didn't think it would happen. I purchased dholmes triple 12's and felt I got a good deal. After getting them set up and running audyssey I realize I got a smoking deal on these and almost feel guilty, keyword there is almost. Stoked I have something to build my HT off of and hopefully wont feel the need to upgrade in the speaker department. just wanted to share that


They are truly awesome!!


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Jeff - welcome to the JTR thread. They are amazing speakers and this thread is pretty amazing as well even tho it can be a full time job trying to keep up with it. Lots of helpful people.

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Does anybody know of a site that sells speaker stands for big speakers, like a center channel. I am looking for ideas for my 215RM. I really did not take an account to how big this speaker is. I mean I knew it was big on account to my RT's, but it makes my 228 look like a cork. I am not sure if I am going to just leave it on the floor and tilt it or bring it up closer to ear level. I have been looking, but I don't see anything.
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Does anybody know of a site that sells speaker stands for big speakers, like a center channel. I am looking for ideas for my 215RM. I really did not take an account to how big this speaker is. I mean I knew it was big on account to my RT's, but it makes my 228 look like a cork. I am not sure if I am going to just leave it on the floor and tilt it or bring it up closer to ear level. I have been looking, but I don't see anything.
To bad we don't live closer to each other I'd give you my stand that Jeff made for me for my 212 when I had it horizontal. It's short but angled up nicely and worked well and would be a lot better than putting the speaker on the floor.
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To bad we don't live closer to each other I'd give you my stand that Jeff made for me for my 212 when I had it horizontal. It's short but angled up nicely and worked well and would be a lot better than putting the speaker on the floor.
I will pay you for it and pay for shipping! That is if you would be interested in doing that! Give me a number!
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I will pay you for it and pay for shipping! That is if you would be interested in doing that! Give me a number!
@carp s stand is very nice, the angled 212 blended well with his vertical mains when I visited.

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I will pay you for it and pay for shipping! That is if you would be interested in doing that! Give me a number!

Your money is no good here, just pay for shipping and we'll call it even.

Now... to figure out how to ship it... I'll talk to you and we'll figure it out.
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Does anybody know of a site that sells speaker stands for big speakers, like a center channel. I am looking for ideas for my 215RM. I really did not take an account to how big this speaker is. I mean I knew it was big on account to my RT's, but it makes my 228 look like a cork. I am not sure if I am going to just leave it on the floor and tilt it or bring it up closer to ear level. I have been looking, but I don't see anything.

Here's what I did for a center stand. I bought 4 cement blocks from Lowes (maybe $8?), wrapped them in black felt from Joanne, and then purchased a pair of these when they were on sale for i think $40. I angled them up as high as I could to get ear level:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o03_s00

So in total it was probably about $60, and I can always increase the height just by adding on more cement blocks
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Your money is no good here, just pay for shipping and we'll call it even.

Now... to figure out how to ship it... I'll talk to you and we'll figure it out.
uship.com can be good for this kind of stuff.
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Here's what I did for a center stand. I bought 4 cement blocks from Lowes (maybe $8?), wrapped them in black felt from Joanne, and then purchased a pair of these when they were on sale for i think $40. I angled them up as high as I could to get ear level:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o03_s00

So in total it was probably about $60, and I can always increase the height just by adding on more cement blocks
I've had good luck with this approach. Cheap and very solid, if you're not looking for something fancy.

Edit: ...although I used velvet, instead of felt.

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I've had good luck with this approach. Cheap and very solid, if you're not looking for something fancy.
Yea something about cement blocks as speaker stands for JTR Speakers (aka mini fridges) just sounds right

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The cement block idea would would be the easiest / cheapest. If you want exact dimensions, you can build one from 2x4s and then cover it with cloth.. I did that with my triple 12LFs which is heavier / bigger than the 212HTs.



Cost was around $20 + the cost of the fabric.

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Your money is no good here, just pay for shipping and we'll call it even.

Now... to figure out how to ship it... I'll talk to you and we'll figure it out.
You are a good dude Sheldon, but I would have to give something. I want to see if it works. I like the looks of it. I was looking at it last night in your thread.
I actually looked at it last week as I remembered you did a horizontal 212HT.
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New Upgrades for OS LFU, S1, and S2...

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Hello all, more than likely going to purchase the 215RT's but am trying to get clarity in my head so i understand what i will need to purchase. I will probably be selling my Orbit Shifter and strictly be using the 215RTs for all of the bass duties (along with a 215RM as a center channel). I don't own an HTPC and would rather not use the DSP in an iNuke pro-amp or an expensive outboard processor. Looking at using a bridged Crown XLS2000 or XLS2500 per 215RT for power, my concern is since the 215RT will be providing all of the bass duties how do I boost the bass levels in the speakers? Since I will not be using the above equipment what is the best way to accomplish this inexpensively but still sound great? MiniDSP? If so, what model would work best? Any help with this question with some options would be great.
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Hello all, more than likely going to purchase the 215RT's but am trying to get clarity in my head so i understand what i will need to purchase. I will probably be selling my Orbit Shifter and strictly be using the 215RTs for all of the bass duties (along with a 215RM as a center channel). I don't own an HTPC and would rather not use the DSP in an iNuke pro-amp or an expensive outboard processor. Looking at using a bridged Crown XLS2000 or XLS2500 per 215RT for power, my concern is since the 215RT will be providing all of the bass duties how do I boost the bass levels in the speakers? Since I will not be using the above equipment what is the best way to accomplish this inexpensively but still sound great? MiniDSP? If so, what model would work best? Any help with this question with some options would be great.

You could get the mini that has 2 inputs and 4 outputs.

All you need is a laptop with usb to use the inuke dsp, so I wouldn't rule out that possibility since you would save a lot of money.
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QSC GXD models are new and have full DSP, like the iNuke's they can provide the flexibility to dial in the speakers. Crown XTI's are also a good solution.

Is there an audible difference between Behringer, QSC, and crown? I guess that is up to the listener and environment. Crown is least likely to require a fan modification if located within 15' of the listener. My fan modded QSC is louder than a stock XLS, but I didn't use the quietest fan as it is being ran bridged on an 18" subwoofer.

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You could get the mini that has 2 inputs and 4 outputs.

All you need is a laptop with usb to use the inuke dsp, so I wouldn't rule out that possibility since you would save a lot of money.
I think I have looked away from the inuke just because i have read so many positive reviews on the Crown XLS series SQ wise and the fan is so quite (I demoed an XLS2500 for 2 weeks). I think also because eventually, once finances permit, I would like to get the D-sonic 1500W x3 amp so the pro-amps would get me the necessary watts and inexpensively until I could afford the D-sonic. I read somewhere that someone has a D-sonic and the pro amp sounded just as good.
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QSC GXD models are new and have full DSP, like the iNuke's they can provide the flexibility to dial in the speakers. Crown XTI's are also a good solution.

Is there an audible difference between Behringer, QSC, and crown? I guess that is up to the listener and environment. Crown is least likely to require a fan modification if located within 15' of the listener. My fan modded QSC is louder than a stock XLS, but I didn't use the quietest fan as it is being ran bridged on an 18" subwoofer.
The XTI takes a big step up money wise for a louder fan and the same SQ as the XLS (per Harman tech), i will have to take a look at the QSC, if I remember these also jump up pretty significantly in price, probably similar to the Crown XTI. Sounds like the inuke with the DSP is the most cost effective way to go.
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