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The bass won't be bloated if you have the mains and subs time aligned correctly. I do this by running a continuous sweep through the omnimic and making changes to the distance settings of the subs until it's as smooth as possible. The trick is though that you also have to have the center channel time aligned with the subs - AND - the L and R. This is tricky.

IMO for guys that have the 215's and subs it is a lot easier to just run the 215's as small for movies and then large with no subs for 2 channel music.
So you have both subs and mains running FR with movies and music? Since you have them timed aligned?
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Big thanks to CountryWV for the JTR Triple 12 HTs. I have them hooked up to a horrible Sony amp and rocked out to the Metallica - Through the Never Blu-ray and a few clips from the Home Theater Demo discs from AVS and oh my god... Coming from some bookshelf B&Ws, large Denons and a few other setups, these are in a completely different league. I settled in and watched a few movies after playing them way too loud (but surprisingly not fatiguing) and the detail and dialogue was unlike anything I've heard before. All of this coming from an untreated space with a quick calibration.

I cannot wait to build out a dedicated space in the adjacent room and surround myself with JTR speakers and a nice AVR. Next on the list is a sub or two from the JTR offerings. Thanks to everyone on the forum for their reviews of these speakers over the years. They have been a dream speaker of mine for quite a while and are everything I was hoping for and more.

I got my t12's a couple months ago, and I feel if people actually knew what they were missing, these would not sit for more than a day in the classifieds. My brother inlaw has Revels, he scoffed at their appearance but was impressed when heard them in action. My one audio purchase I feel ill never regret, 2 cap 1400's and slanted 8's and ill be done
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I got my t12's a couple months ago, and I feel if people actually knew what they were missing, these would not sit for more than a day in the classifieds. My brother inlaw has Revels, he scoffed at their appearance but was impressed when heard them in action. My one audio purchase I feel ill never regret, 2 cap 1400's and slanted 8's and ill be done
I have to agree with you, sad more people don't get a chance to listen to JTR's. They have breathed a whole new life into sound for me.
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So you have both subs and mains running FR with movies and music? Since you have them timed aligned?
I did for a long time, but I'm back to crossing the mains at 80hz for movies only. I don't want to mess with the HPF and now that I have a nearfield sub I don't need any more bass than my 9 18"s can put out.

However, for 2 channel music you would have to pry my full range capabilities from my cold dead hands!! I use my system for music far more than movies - although i do watch a lot of tv and movies too....

Stitch1 and I were cranking up some tunes and drinking beer tonight for 4 hours or so, and the time just flew by. What do I do when he leaves? Listen to more music.
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I could listen to the 215's all day. Thanks again for having me over.
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I keep reading that when you set your receiver to LFE+Main, assuming you have capable mains like the 215, the bass ends up being boomy and bloated.

My question is, can you not have it setup this way and then eq your subs down?
Many sins can be cured with a nice EQ system.

A few things to be aware of with LFE+Main:
1) If you have a sub in back and mains in front, you might be able to use that to tame room modes, which can help.
2) If the sub and mains have different phase curves (which is most likely), you will probably get at least some cancellation at some frequencies.
3) It can add output.
4) All mains I have ever tried have sounded worse in LFE+Main mode than small mode, when paired with good subs. I've never tried the 215s, though, which is admittedly a different animal.

With all of this, your best bet is to measure with REW, to see what is going on in your room. It will be very different with different rooms, placement, equipment, and settings.

Without actually measuring, the safe route would be to get multiple identical subs, place them on opposite sides of the room, and run the mains in small.
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I was over @carp house yesterday to talk about his sub setup but we ended up playing music most of the evening. Here's a little snip talking about the JTR 215's a post I made in my build thread.

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I am always impressed with the JTR 215s but this was the first time I experienced them with his near field sub engaged. It was incredible. No matter what we threw at them they sounded amazing. I am not talking just one type of music. I was all over the spectrum from classical symphony to rock to pop to live acoustic to jazz to low fi indie stuff. Nothing felt out of place on his towers. Adding the near field was great for music with a stand up bass. It added that low end rumble you would expect from a mic'ed stand up like that. What was REALLY cool with the near field was symphonies that had a strong timpani presence or deep percussion. On the flip side the 215's gives you a distinct sound for every instrument played. Down to the airy sound of a flute or the multiple layers of guitar and bass. Subtle details that I find lacking on the majority of speakers are so present on the 215's that makes it hard for me to even consider other speakers.
I really need to hear the 210's at some point because they just jumped back to the top of my speaker list.
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I was over @carp house yesterday to talk about his sub setup but we ended up playing music most of the evening. Here's a little snip talking about the JTR 215's a post I made in my build thread.



I really need to hear the 210's at some point because they just jumped back to the top of my speaker list.
Next time you guys sit down, you absolutely MUST give Mike Oldfield - Shabda a spin. It's essentially everything you just described, tossed into one track.

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Adding it to my playlist now. Thanks for the suggestion.
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