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And a big big part of my decision to go with a measly 400 watts to power my 215RT's. Especially since Ricci tested them 100-102 db sensitive from 44hz-135hz with a slow trail off down to 16hz! Yea I don't have tons of headroom down low there but I'm okay with that. Part of these amps tech is the efficiency for bass frequencies so it's a good match. I could end up capping them at 20-25 for movies anyway with my plethora of woofage handling ULF. Music, they are perfect amps! noise floor is damn damn good with RCA and inky black with XLR. Noise floor was one of my main criteria for an amp as I want to shoot for a noise floor in the mid 30's in my dream room build And don't forget the silky chocolate milk sound quality
Ha! Wow, I missed that they are that sensitive above 44hz. I'm not surprised though. Yeah, I would say you are good to go.
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Ha! Wow, I missed that they are that sensitive above 44hz. I'm not surprised though. Yeah, I would say you are good to go.
"The short term output bursts were taken at a distance of 4 meters where little if any compensation would be needed. Since the 10 meter sensitivity measurement is the more representative measurement of the 215RT�s true output we will look at it to gauge the 215RT�s sensitivity with a 2 volt input. From 44-135Hz the 215RT�s sensitivity is between 100-102dB which is quite good. Below 40Hz the response gradually rolls off towards 16Hz where it the drops off more dramatically below the vent tuning. The 2 volt sensitivity is still hovering near 90dB down at 21Hz. Overall the response shape should match up quite well in a typical room exhibiting a bit of boundary reinforcement of the deep bass. It is entirely possible the overall response shape could extend relatively flatly down into the 15Hz range in room. At the top of the woofer sections bandwidth it can be seen that the low pass filter is in line for these measurements. "

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I just don't see how it's unreasonable to expect at least small improvements over $150 iNuke's. I mean that circuitry costs half that or less to buy and produce for reasons. All 'within scientific reason' of course Phase and filtering IS audible.

As far as a blind shootout I'm not entirely super motivated to do it but would participate and possibly coordinate and host. I just don't know if I will have the best room for couple years. But we do have 4-5 of us within a few hrs of each other with JTR's. If for no other reason than to get together as fellow enthusiasts and have fun nerd-ing out why not? If you don't want to participate or lug your D-sonic around no worries I should have a Hypex NC502MP module based amp at that time as well. Would be cool to have a Pascal module amp too though!
There was an improvement going from the Inuke (I paid more like $400 ) to the D-Sonic but it was my subjective impression only. You are diving into the deep end in trying to understand the science behind the subjective and I like that but personally don't have the time or inclination. That doesn't mean I'm not up to a GTG as they are always interesting and fun and I bet we could talk Jeff and DesertDome into coming out for a couple of days. Are you still in Eugene or have you moved to RB. I hope you're still in Eugene as it's supposed to be 111° in RB today and that's not Eugene weather ... is it.
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I never noticed a difference in the sound between the 5 or so amps i had powering my JTR stuff over the years. Love the dsp feature on the iNukes. Makes for easy tweaking.

New price of $7000 for all 3 of my JTR 215RT speakers.
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I never noticed a difference in the sound between the 5 or so amps i had powering my JTR stuff over the years. Love the dsp feature on the iNukes. Makes for easy tweaking.

New price of $7000 for all 3 of my JTR 215RT speakers.
Hi John, thanks for the PM but i can not answer it.

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Hi John, thanks for the PM but i can not answer it.

So please send me your Email.

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He's going all out for infractions lol! Great guy to work with, I bought his projector.

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Could someone measure their 215rt and tell me the distance from floor to bottom of first driver. Need to know for my at screen. Thanks

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Could someone measure their 215rt and tell me the distance from floor to bottom of first driver. Need to know for my at screen. Thanks
Just measured, 24" from the floor to the very bottom of the first driver.
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Just measured, 24" from the floor to the very bottom of the first driver.
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Got most of the theater all packed up, ready for the moving truck on Tues...
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Got most of the theater all packed up, ready for the moving truck on Tues...
I am not looking forward at all to getting these 3 JTR215RT's from the basement to the garage to pack them up.
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Got most of the theater all packed up, ready for the moving truck on Tues...
Introducing the JTR Speaker Delivery System!

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Do any of you have vaulted ceilings?
We are in the process of building out a mixed use media room above our garage.
The room will be 22'x19' and will have a 16' high ceiling on the right side wall and slope down to an 8' ceiling on the left side wall.
What would you recommend for in-ceiling speakers for Atmos? (would you install 4 or would you do 6 in case more can be incorporated in the future?)
I would need something that is able to be aimed and have read good things about the RSL e34c, but I'm worried about the sensitivity difference between the RSL's and JTR's.
Volts have a higher sensitivity, but aren't able to be aimed.

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Do any of you have vaulted ceilings?
We are in the process of building out a mixed use media room above our garage.
The room will be 22'x19' and will have a 16' high ceiling on the right side wall and slope down to an 8' ceiling on the left side wall.
What would you recommend for in-ceiling speakers for Atmos? (would you install 4 or would you do 6 in case more can be incorporated in the future?)
I would need something that is able to be aimed and have read good things about the RSL e34c, but I'm worried about the sensitivity difference between the RSL's and JTR's.
Volts have a higher sensitivity, but aren't able to be aimed.
You can aim the volts with a bracket.

Does the ceiling have to be vaulted?
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Unfortunately, the ceiling has to be vaulted.

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215 RM's

Last night listened to some music with the 215RM's....I've owned them since 2015 and I am still amazed at the clarity, punch, and soundstage these produce. In my space they sound incredible.

Thanks for making such stellar products Jeff P!!!
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I agree Jeff on the 'T' vs 'RT' Maybe you could have a explanation somewhere the difference is an upgraded compression driver but also giving info the 'T' compression driver is very capable too.

It's funny I thought of you when I made that rack space comment lol! Processor, two PL 7.5s, Oppo, Cherry amps, And I would like to do a spot for Mac mini and Mini DSP units. Two things rack space and money have in common, they disappear fast!
I'm building up a batch of Noesis 212T. Time to get them on the website. Still not completely sure on the name though. Maybe, Noesis 212TS (tower speaker)? Or Noesis 212TT (two way, tower) which would really confuse some.
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Excuse my naivety, but what does the H & T stand for in the 212HT's? Does it make sense to go 212HTT?
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Excuse my naivety, but what does the H & T stand for in the 212HT's? Does it make sense to go 212HTT?
"Home Theater"

Been trying to stick to two letter acronyms.
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Does RT stand for Reference Tower? Could you go with ST "Signature Tower"?

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Does RT stand for Reference Tower? Could you go with ST "Signature Tower"?
Yes and they've been out for a few years so I don't want to change their name. The Noesis 228HTR and 212HTR (Home Theater, Reference) are three letter acronyms.
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I meant use signature for the two way towers and keep reference for the three way.

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I thought HTR was for Half ToweR


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Open back significant advantage? Can they be heard if I use them late night or early morning next room over?

I was only interested in the B&W p7's as I can get them discounted. I was also intrigued by the new Oppo cans...
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