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Any changes to the 215RT's coming? I'll be purchasing before the end of the year. Should I wait?
Looking at every aspect under a microscope and refining the crossovers for even low distortion and smoother sound. We're updating as ordered so no need to hold off.
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Looking at every aspect under a microscope and refining the crossovers for even low distortion and smoother sound. We're updating as ordered so no need to hold off.
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the response. I'll ask here as it might be pertinent to others as well. What are the costs for other finishes on the 215RT's? I'm only getting a pair and would like them to look nicer than the standard finish. I know you offer the automotive finish, which I'm very interested in.
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Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the response. I'll ask here as it might be pertinent to others as well. What are the costs for other finishes on the 215RT's? I'm only getting a pair and would like them to look nicer than the standard finish. I know you offer the automotive finish, which I'm very interested in.
The really large cabinets like the Noesis 215RT and Captivator 4000 are $500 for veneer/finishing and $1000 for the automotive finish.
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The really large cabinets like the Noesis 215RT and Captivator 4000 are $500 for veneer/finishing and $1000 for the automotive finish.
Prefect! Thank you, Jeff. I'll be discussing with you the automotive finish options. I'm guessing it would be best to call, which I'll do at the end of November.

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We're updating as ordered so no need to hold off. Shipped the first 2018 Noesis 228HT last week and shipping the first 2018 Noesis 212RT next week.


Got it! I’m debating on 212RT’s all around with a 212HTR center. Just gotta finalize my decision on the subs.


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Showed the wife how big the 210RT's are compared to my Salk's with a tape measure and she didn't even bat an eye.

210RT is 4" wider and 4" deeper than a SongTower. The 210RM is a monster compared to the SalkCenter. Might need to go bigger than 65" for viewing now too.

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Question Music-only 2.0 setup - 210RT?

Dear audiophiles:

I am looking for your recommendations for music-only stereo setup:

1. "Cave": 14' x 14' x 8' with a wide opening into 10' x 10' x 8' room behind my listening position (small condo).
2. Amplification: PASS Labs XA30.5 (30 W/ch into 8 Ohm).
3. Music preferences: organ, opera, orchestral works with big dynamic swings, fortepiano, vocal jazz, pop (a bit eclectic...).
4. Should provide high fidelity sound even at low listening levels (65 - 75 dB, I would say).
4. Budget: up to 5K a pair.

Would you suggest me considering the JTR 210RT's for my setup, please? Alternatives? 

What are your recommendations for the speakers placement: distances from the walls, between the speakers and from the speakers to the listening position?

Please chime in!

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Dear audiophiles:

I am looking for your recommendations for music-only stereo setup:

1. "Cave": 14' x 14' x 8' with a wide opening into 10' x 10' x 8' room behind my listening position (small condo).
2. Amplification: PASS Labs XA30.5 (30 W/ch into 8 Ohm).
3. Music preferences: organ, opera, orchestral works with big dynamic swings, fortepiano, vocal jazz, pop (a bit eclectic...).
4. Should provide high fidelity sound even at low listening levels (65 - 75 dB, I would say).
4. Budget: up to 5K a pair.

Would you suggest me considering the JTR 210RT's for my setup, please? Alternatives? 

What are your recommendations for the speakers placement: distances from the walls, between the speakers and from the speakers to the listening position?

Please chime in!
I would say either the 210RT or 212RT (more efficient but bigger). Both go down into the 30hz area in room. Since these speakers both have large waveguides you can get away with having them close to the walls if you toe them in a bit more.
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Gonna need a lot more power than 30 watts though

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Gonna need a lot more power than 30 watts though
Considering his listening levels, the 212RT's would probably be just fine.
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Question More questions...

Dear Experts:

Thank you very kindly for your most appreciated input.

First of all, the “Boss” will never approve the 212RT’s: they are way too big for our smallish sitting room…

I am just a newbie, so please forgive my next questions…

Could you please help me to understand if the sensitivity quoted at “2.0 volts, free air” is the same as quoted at “2.0 V at 3.3 ft, free air”, is the same as quoted at “1 W at 1 m”, and in case of the 210RT’s is 95 dB?

Would you consider this tool to be sufficiently accurate to estimate the amplifier power required to produce the desired SPL?

Could you also please give me an idea of the 210RT’s placement relative to each other, side and back walls, and the sweet spot?

Please chime in!

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Official JTR speaker thread

First off, I have heard almost all of the current line aside from the 212rt, and the 210rt is my favorite. I own a pair. I won't go on and on how they are perfection again, unless you want me to, because I will . The cool part about them is they aren't huge and have a massive sound. Quite petite compared to the 215 in fact. I have them set up in a less than ideal temporary setup right now as they wait for a room build / they are 1' from back and side walls and they are outstanding. They are getting 100w from an old avr and are not short on output. I have heard them several feet from any wall and 2' from side and back walls in different arrangements. Each time the spacing between each other and MLP was equidistant or close to it with 10 degrees toed in. 12' spacing for the golden triangle is probably my favorite arrangement. I have a Crown xti 4002 amp with dsp for them - I think it's 600w ch - and a hpf at 30hz. The end use will have them running 2.1 with s sealed hs24 sub. It is not at all necessary to run a sub with these because they dig deep, but the hpf is a good idea in case you don't want to blow the drivers, which I have a tendency to do because I'm an idiot.
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