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Having 6 12" drivers up front capable of playing 50Hz and not doing so goes against my frugal nature .

Ah, I have an as-eq1 and like hot mid bass so I like to cross high. Glad to see there is no performance reason not to do so.
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are JTR priced individually or by pairs?

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are JTR priced individually or by pairs?

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are JTR priced individually or by pairs?

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Ok thats what I thought, it didnt sound right to me that you could get a speaker of this caliber for 1199 for a pair but i couldnt find the info on their site....ill have to wait a while longer before I order some then...and convince the lady a little more...

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Ok thats what I thought, it didnt sound right to me that you could get a speaker of this caliber for 1199 for a pair but i couldnt find the info on their site....ill have to wait a while longer before I order some then...and convince the lady a little more...

Its worth it, jeff is a great guy. He genuinely WANTS people to have an enjoy his speakers. I would say call him when you get closer and see what he can do for a package of some kind.
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Hey Goon, every figure out the sub thing? You should really get something that fits in the exact spot as your ultra did since you did get great results with it. I can't see you being dissapointed in dual captivators.
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Hey Goon, every figure out the sub thing? You should really get something that fits in the exact spot as your ultra did since you did get great results with it. I can't see you being dissapointed in dual captivators.

I thought I had it figured out till I got some numbers on the captivators ha...

I need to sell the dynasty and I will get 2. If not I am getting an a7s-650 kit to go with the dynasty. I set a super low price on it so we will see.

The dynasty actually fit in the same spot as the pb13 so go figure... We'll see
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.............I just upgraded my amps..........



What did you ended up getting to replace the Sunfire?
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What did you ended up getting to replace the Sunfire?

Good catch Wilson ..

My rationalization goes like this ... I needed two more amp channels for my current 9.2 config and Sunfire does not have a 2 channel option I like so, in order to keep all of the non-sub amps within the same family I bought a Wyred for Sound MC7(3x500,4x250) and a W4S ST-250. I have always wanted to try these amps and actually had one on order a couple of years ago only to cancel and go with the Sunfire. I haven't really had a chance to test them (ie blow the windows out) yet but they are cool running (probably due to the Ice power) and dead silent like the Sunfire. So far, so good.

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Good catch Wilson ..

My rationalization goes like this ... I needed two more amp channels for my current 9.2 config and Sunfire does not have a 2 channel option I like so, in order to keep all of the non-sub amps within the same family I bought a Wyred for Sound MC7(3x500,4x250) and a W4S ST-250. I have always wanted to try these amps and actually had one on order a couple of years ago only to cancel and go with the Sunfire. I haven't really had a chance to test them (ie blow the windows out) yet but they are cool running (probably due to the Ice power) and dead silent like the Sunfire. So far, so good.

Be sure and post impressions about those amps (either here, PM me, or in an appropriate amp thread). I've been curious about those for a while. Thanks.

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The new website is up
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looks way better than the old site!
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Yeah finally a finished site that fits the brands growth. Should help some buyers who were on the fence
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The new website is up

Very nice!
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The new website is up

Very nice, Jeff. As others have mentioned, it's quite an improvement from the old site. In this age of all things internet, companies live and die by the effectiveness, ease of use, and overall design of their websites. I know I've stopped looking at sites before because of their lackluster layout.

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1. what are the functional differences between the Quints and current version of the Triple 12's?

from the specs, they both seem to be about the same price and have the same output so why would I choose one over the other?

The Quintuple is a much better form factor for non-dedicated rooms, its taller and has more placement options for the coaxial. For those who want to go all out there is the Triple 12.


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2. could 3 Behringer EP4000's comfortably power 5 Quints and 1 Captivator?

Actually, the EP4000 does 2000 watts into 2 ohms so you could run 5 Quintuples and then 2 Captivators off the last channel (1000 watts to each)
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Jeff-
do you feel that the sound quality of the T12s is now superior to the T8s? I know I read somewhere that you previously preferred the T8s. Would the Q8s fall somewhere inbetween?

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The Website looks good Jeff. Are you planning to do the S8's in MDF/wood grain?

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The new website is up

what information does it provide that the "old" site did not?

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Happy New Year!

I took delivery of the Q8 LCR this Monday, being the holiday season and all I haven't had too much time with them yet.

First impressions they were well packed with hard foam insulation on all 6 sides which protected the speakers from any damage during the journey.

The black matte finish (standard) is absolutely stunning, and the speakers themselves are of course massive and very sturdly constructed.

I have the left and right channel a little farther apart than optimal for stereo listening as they are positioned on either side of the 120" inch wide screen, probably around 96" would be best if I had an AT screen instead. The center channel I have up on a 24" stand, I still need to tilt it slightly upwards to point the drivers toward ear level.

I ran Audyssey once and it put left and right at 70hz crossover and the center at 90hz, so after I tilt the center speaker I will rerun Audyssey as I think it is getting confused with the environmental (floor) reflections. Dialog is a little clearer with Audyssey off, but Audyssey is doing a good job of taming unbalanced bass so it is a trade-off, often takes a couple of trials of Audyssey to get the best out of it.

Watching movies is a revalation, now the sound perfectly matches the large picture size truely drawing you into the film. Reference level never sounded so good, the dynamics are back! The speakers are great with preserving fine details from the soundtrack too.

There is a hiss from the tweeters that seems unvariable with volume, couldn't measure as below 50db and not as loud as A/C, a PS3 or a projector, so would only be noticeable in a dead silent room. As others have said it wouldn't be my first recommendation for a 2-channel stereo speakers, but for home theater it delivers in spades.
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what information does it provide that the "old" site did not?

It has some updated info. and better pictures of the slant 8. It is also layed out nice and easier to find stuff. Why so pessimistic?
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Happy New Year!

I took delivery of the Q8 LCR this Monday, being the holiday season and all I haven't had too much time with them yet.

First impressions they were well packed with hard foam insulation on all 6 sides which protected the speakers from any damage during the journey.

The black matte finish (standard) is absolutely stunning, and the speakers themselves are of course massive and very sturdly constructed.

I have the left and right channel a little farther apart than optimal for stereo listening as they are positioned on either side of the 120" inch wide screen, probably around 96" would be best if I had an AT screen instead. The center channel I have up on a 24" stand, I still need to tilt it slightly upwards to point the drivers toward ear level.

I ran Audyssey once and it put left and right at 70hz crossover and the center at 90hz, so after I tilt the center speaker I will rerun Audyssey as I think it is getting confused with the environmental (floor) reflections. Dialog is a little clearer with Audyssey off, but Audyssey is doing a good job of taming unbalanced bass so it is a trade-off, often takes a couple of trials of Audyssey to get the best out of it.

Watching movies is a revalation, now the sound perfectly matches the large picture size truely drawing you into the film. Reference level never sounded so good, the dynamics are back! The speakers are great with preserving fine details from the soundtrack too.

There is a hiss from the tweeters that seems unvariable with volume, couldn't measure as below 50db and not as loud as A/C, a PS3 or a projector, so would only be noticeable in a dead silent room. As others have said it wouldn't be my first recommendation for a 2-channel stereo speakers, but for home theater it delivers in spades.

Thanks for the comments Kemet. I would guess the tweeter hiss is a grounding issue. The high efficiency of these speakers would exacerbate any signal noise.

I have been happy with the two channel performance (imaging/soundstage) of my T12's and I agree the 10' L/R separation might be an issue. How far away do you sit? The equilateral triangle positioning is a good rule of thumb for imaging.

I find concert video M/C music like Cream Royal Albert Hall, Eagles Live Melbourne, Jeff Beck Live at Ronnie Scotts sound incredible. In any case, the JTR’s are best used as HT speakers and for that use they are hard to beat.

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My poor lonely T8 sitting in center working its tail off with little help from my dinky L/R's and surrounds. For the tremendous job she's been doing I rewarded her by ordering another T8 and a Q8 to keep her company and share the workload. BUT lo and behold just before shipping I've changed the order to three new 2010 T12's!!! Can't wait!

And the poor ole T8 will be moved to the lonely 6 hole. Don't fret for her to much tho. Ill pair her up soon and have a truly badass 5.1!!!
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Thanks for the comments Kemet. I would guess the tweeter hiss is a grounding issue. The high efficiency of these speakers would exacerbate any signal noise.

I have been happy with the two channel performance (imaging/soundstage) of my T12's and I agree the 10' L/R separation might be an issue. How far away do you sit? The equilateral triangle positioning is a good rule of thumb for imaging.

I find concert video M/C music like Cream Royal Albert Hall, Eagles Live Melbourne, Jeff Beck Live at Ronnie Scotts sound incredible. In any case, the JTR's are best used as HT speakers and for that use they are hard to beat.

Yes, last nite I confirmed the signal noise is coming from the Onkyo 805 Receiver itself, as I just get the normal hiss from the tweeter when just the Emotiva amp is powered up, the higher sensitivy of the speakers has exposed the noise. Hopefully this year I will be getting a new pre-amp with a lower noise floor (if the fall models finally are 11.2/3 capable).

As I do sit back about 8', I do have the LR too far apart for best stereo positioning, but for multichannel music it seems great. I have now slightly tilted up the center so I am still dialing in on position and best FR from Audyssey. The added bass from the Q8's made an incredible experience when I watched snippets of Batman Returns at reference.
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Nice Website Jeff, very professional looking and the navigation is nice.

Happy New Year, guys!
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Uggh. I've got this crazy desire to upgrade to the new T12's now...

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I just ordered a Onkyo 5507 for 9.2 sound,I needed 2 more amp channels so i ordered a Behringer 2500 pro amp.Ive never had a pro amp,do they work okay for HT? I got the amp much cheaper than a reg. amp I thought it would be ok since i only need 2 ch.
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I just ordered a Onkyo 5507 for 9.2 sound,I needed 2 more amp channels so i ordered a Behringer 2500 pro amp.Ive never had a pro amp,do they work okay for HT? I got the amp much cheaper than a reg. amp I thought it would be ok since i only need 2 ch.

The only potiential problem with the Behringer may be fan noise if it is in your room.There is a fan modification you can do you reduce this noise. The Behringer amp should do a nice job of powering the additional speakers.

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Quintuple vs Triple 12HT vs Triple 8HT , what are some sonic differences between these 3 speakers?
I am hoping there is no differences between the 3 except size and output as I was considering mixing the speakers as in Triple 12HT left and right then a Quintuple or Triple 8HT center.
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