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Sherbourn 7-350 puts out about 750 watts per channel into 4 ohm stereo on a 20amp breaker, and more if you give it more power.

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Thanks for the explanation.

I've got four S8s on order, but Jeff wasn't able to get them in this shipment, so they're coming later. I'm planning on using those 4 for front heights and wides, and go with bipolars (deftech sr-8080bps) for sides because the room is not that wide and the sides are almost on top of the front row sofa (there's a second row as well). If I don't like the bipolar sides, I'd get two more S8s for the sides and maybe mount them higher on the wall.

I've placed speakers for front heights and it's a waste IMHO. This is in a HT with between 10-11-foot ceilings too. Anything less than that, there isn't enough separation between the amount of higher output coming from LCR and rare/less output from heights, which is all AVR processing based.

In my opinion, 7-channel is optimal. Of course, you can try it in your room and see if you hear a difference from your LP. When the LCR have a large/dynamic enough sound stage, cost of 4 S8 used as height and wide not worth the ROI..but definitely for sides and back.

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So.... should I get the PA 7-350 if it buzzes? That would annoy the crap out of me.

Why not 3 Crown XLS1500s each bridged for cheaper? That's what I was thinking about getting but that d-sonic looks pretty nice too.
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I've placed speakers for front heights and it's a waste IMHO. This is in a HT with between 10-11-foot ceilings too. Anything less than that, there isn't enough separation between the amount of higher output coming from LCR and rare/less output from heights, which is all AVR processing based.

In my opinion, 7-channel is optimal. Of course, you can try it in your room and see if you hear a difference from your LP. When the LCR have a large/dynamic enough sound stage, cost of 4 S8 used as height and wide not worth the ROI..but definitely for sides and back.

I agree, the buyer of my Noesis wanted a pair of Slanted 8's for surrounds and I'm selling him my Heights as they were mostly unnoticeable and I have 9' ceilings in the HT. Going to stick with a 7.X config for the duration.


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I hear you guys about 7 channel setup, which is why I only ordered 4 S8s for now until I see if the front wides or heights are worth it or not.
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I kind of liked front wides when I played with them, but front heights were mostely placebo when I tried them back and forth. When trying them I'd think, this sounds awesome! Then I'd unhook the heights and think - yeah this still sounds awesome! I figured it might be somewhat do to the fact I only have 7 foot ceilings in my home theater room.
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I'm going to need some s8's for my surrounds..... I find it very very hard the justify the super high price of such a simple small speaker.... I don't see how or why a single s8 is 899. Maybe for the pair but one?!?!?! No way. I'll build my own surrounds for a quarter that price

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There's one for sale in Canada.
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649097263-sherbourn_7350_7_channel_amp/

The ad is two weeks old so I don't know if it's still for sale but you might as well try contacting the seller.

thats mine!!! I've got a guy getting back to me today but no sale as of yet, just a bunch of low balling douches for the last 2 weeks lol
I'd go $1700 shipped in Canada if anyone wanted it but of course he picks a review somewhere of someone saying it buzzes and assumes they all buzz lol. It's hard to explain that there are so many factors that could make it buzz other than anything to do with the amp without sounding like your trying to be a salesman lol. The emo forum would prove it's isolated and generally not the amp, same as with any emotiva, high sensitivity amps will bring out ANY noise in a system.

ahh well, I've got no problems hanging on to it if it doesn't sell. I'm looking at $100-$120 for shipping. as it's crazy heavy as many of you know.


Edit, now I've got 3 guys all wanting it LOL of course. I dunno, maybe I should just keep the thing....

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I. I don't see how or why a single s8 is 899. Maybe for the pair but one?!?!?! No way. I'll build my own surrounds for a quarter that price
As of Yesterday it went to $999. smile.gif DIY can always be done cheaper but look at an apples to apples comparison and you will find few equals at that price. The S8 is more than meets the eye.
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thats mine!!! I've got a guy getting back to me today but no sale as of yet, just a bunch of low balling douches for the last 2 weeks lol
I'd go $1700 shipped in Canada if anyone wanted it but of course he picks a review somewhere of someone saying it buzzes and assumes they all buzz lol. It's hard to explain that there are so many factors that could make it buzz other than anything to do with the amp without sounding like your trying to be a salesman lol. The emo forum would prove it's isolated and generally not the amp, same as with any emotiva, high sensitivity amps will bring out ANY noise in a system.

ahh well, I've got no problems hanging on to it if it doesn't sell. I'm looking at $100-$120 for shipping. as it's crazy heavy as many of you know.


Edit, now I've got 3 guys all wanting it LOL of course. I dunno, maybe I should just keep the thing....

That's me. smile.gif I was reading this thread about buzzing issues.
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That's me. smile.gif I was reading this thread about buzzing issues.
An amp has a 3 prong power chord and most AVRs have 2 prong with No ground. In most cases either grounding the AVR or Unground (cheater plug) the amp will solve the Buzz.

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I'm going to need some s8's for my surrounds..... I find it very very hard the justify the super high price of such a simple small speaker.... I don't see how or why a single s8 is 899. Maybe for the pair but one?!?!?! No way. I'll build my own surrounds for a quarter that price

Chris, I fully understand why you think that but they are insane! You could always go with some JBL pro speakers for surrounds!

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That's me. smile.gif I was reading this thread about buzzing issues.

Oh hahaha, I didn't read after I saw Jbrowns post lol. It's all good if you don't want it, it's a big purchase and be 100% sure. Check out the Emotiva forums for info on the buzzing, most people get it resolved and it usually turns out to be other problems in their systems.

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That's me. smile.gif I was reading this thread about buzzing issues.
that buzzing issue I think was my thread. Lmao. It's not the amp

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Hell for 1700 I would most likely sell mine!!!!!! If it's the sherbourn pa7-350 your talking about..... sure need to sell something to fund surrounds. Because in my speaker deal I sold all five to get as much as possible to out towards Frolichs speakers....

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So.... should I get the PA 7-350 if it buzzes? That would annoy the crap out of me.

Mine has zero buzz smile.gif

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I just realized you quoted watts for only three channels being used......

So I wonder what it does for two channels only when Im partying?

Even partying you shouldn't come close to tapping out those watts. Unless you are taking the party outdoors or something. Inside you won't be able to speak to each other far before the amp starts giving up the goat.

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As of Yesterday it went to $999. smile.gif DIY can always be done cheaper but look at an apples to apples comparison and you will find few equals at that price. The S8 is more than meets the eye.
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beastaudio is in the middle of an excellent DIY build that at the very least should equal the performance of a S8, at least that's what I'm hoping for because I would do an identical build too. I think the target price is about $1000 per pair.
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DIY of what. Surrounds? I may go that route..... or jbl pro 8350 surrounds

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I use this sherbourn. It's actually 550 watts by 7 into 4 ohms. It's 102 lbs of power.... it's a beast.

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Hell for 1700 I would most likely sell mine!!!!!! If it's the sherbourn pa7-350 your talking about..... sure need to sell something to fund surrounds. Because in my speaker deal I sold all five to get as much as possible to out towards Frolichs speakers....

Yes it's a absolute beast! It is the only peice of equipment not in my tv stand due to height and weight! Yes I don't have a PJ frown.gif
Anyhow I'm mostly likely at this point going to run three Newest gen Triple 8's LCR then a couple DIY 10" eminence surrounds wink.gif

I wouldn't sell the amp. Let the hype of the good deal pass and you can get prob 1800 easy later on. It is world class and plenty of power for 98-101db sensitive speakers!

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I been looking at the eminence myself.... I built a flexy rack just because of the big ass amp

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My flexy rack

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Hey nice rack Selk...
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Oh where do I buy a 12v trigger cable for my amp? Pa 7350...

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I just used what I had laying around. It's a typical 3.5mm cable. I believe. And mono the stereo both seem to work

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beastaudio is in the middle of an excellent DIY build that at the very least should equal the performance of a S8, at least that's what I'm hoping for because I would do an identical build too. I think the target price is about $1000 per pair.
DIY cannot be beat moneywise but it does take a little bit of effort and a Hell of a lot of time. I have 4 of these ready to assemble http://www.diysoundgroup.com/forum/index.php?topic=257.0 for my surrounds. I paid to have the XO designed and built so I have about $750 per but they will equal the T12.
If I had it to do over I would order 4 x Slanted 8s and be done with it. smile.gif
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DIY of what. Surrounds? I may go that route..... or jbl pro 8350 surrounds

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But here's the drivers and crossovers.

And here's the built thread
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1353658/budget-eminence-coaxial-surround-build/510#post_24147148

I'm just waiting to hear how the build turns out and then I tackle it myself along with my monster sub build I'm going to do. smile.gif
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Chris, I fully understand why you think that but they are insane! You could always go with some JBL pro speakers for surrounds!

This is what I did. Went with two pairs of the 8340A's.... They have been great and were quite the upgrade over the Klipsch RS-62II's I had previously.

I couldn't justify the price at the time, but knew I needed something different. My long term plans include two pairs of the S8's...probably in the next six months.
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This is what I did. Went with two pairs of the 8340A's.... They have been great and were quite the upgrade over the Klipsch RS-62II's I had previously.

I couldn't justify the price at the time, but knew I needed something different. My long term plans include two pairs of the S8's...probably in the next six months.

I love my JTR speakers and I'm sure I'd probably love the S8's or Slant 8's too, but my wallet has a really hard time thinking about dropping 4grand on two pairs of surrounds frown.gif

So it'll be a DIY build for me or just keep on using my Axiom QS8's.
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I love my JTR speakers and I'm sure I'd probably love the S8's or Slant 8's too, but my wallet has a really hard time thinking about dropping 4grand on two pairs of surrounds frown.gif

So it'll be a DIY build for me or just keep on using my Axiom QS8's.

Have you thought about any of the SEOS builds as surrounds?

Check out this one... sounds awesome...

http://www.diysoundgroup.com/waveguide-speaker-kits/alpha8-kit.html


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An amp has a 3 prong power chord and most AVRs have 2 prong with No ground. In most cases either grounding the AVR or Unground (cheater plug) the amp will solve the Buzz.

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I've been wondering why AVRs don't have a ground wire... how does that make sense?
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