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Old 01-06-2014, 09:29 AM
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More often than not, Ausyssey (XT32) sets my Slanted 8 Height and Surround Back speakers to 50hz. I'm sure this is due to boundary effect as they are fairly close to 2 boundaries (ceiling/wall). I changed them to 100hz as that is their "normal" xover range and it's pointless to push them beyond that. I think the best choices for wides with JTR mains would be Single 8's, Triple 8HT-LP's or even better, the Noesis 228's but they require more room width to function properly.

How you are making wide speakers work in a 13' wide room is a mystery to me unless you have a single seat theater and/or sit very close to the LCR's.

I'll try the S8s when I get them and go from there. For once, I will show patience and experiment before doing something. smile.gif

As for the room layout, I've attached a pic to show the current configuration. I read somewhere on Audyssey's web page that if the room cannot do perfect 30 and 60 degrees, to double the angle of the fronts when placing the wides. So I ended up with the existing config: 23 degree fronts and 46 degree wides. I have to say that it works out pretty well - that Kris guy on audyssey does say that the point of the front wides is to really help when the LCR placement is narrow. I seem to be agreeing with that comment.

I totally agree with subyguy that it's like a wall of sound coming at you. My wife was convinced to go with wides literally after a 2 second AB comparison.

I do have another question: we decided to have two rows of seating. So, I'm thinking instead of doing rears, going with two sets of side surrounds. I'm thinking that putting the rears behind the back row, but optimizing them for listening in the first row will make them too loud for the back row viewers. Any thoughts from anyone?

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I run crown xls 1500's all around (was running one bridges on each of my T12's then switched to stereo when I added more surrounds) and love them. They are silent and have RCA inputs. I have added relays in them all so they turn on with my 4311. My room maybe isn't typical as it is basically the entire basement and is almost. 15,000ft3. When I'm lifting weights in the back I'm about 50ft from the speakers and like it loud so I'm using at least some of that power that's on tap.

What relay are you using? I'm thinking of adding a relay box for the S2.
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Would anyone be interested in a pair of Triple 8's? 2008 model I drove a state away to pick up. Then shipped them to Jeff in Wisconsin to do driver/crossover upgrades as well as repair a couple of the female mounting nuts he uses for his drivers. He is installing and running full testing on them. They have the JTR logo engraved in the back and have speakon connectors. Basically brand new Triple 8's from the masters hands smile.gif I am not quite absolute 100% set on selling them. Just curious if someone would be interested smile.gif


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Good point but which one and where its located makes the difference. When I had the amp out of my right (they are both up front corner loaded) OS the left one seemed to sound just about the same as two of them together. When I tried using a single OS in the middle under my center channel Noesis, the bass was essentially gone from my entire front row. With subs it is location, location, location. Having multiples helps mitigate many issues.

Re the best sounding, Jeff has stated several times that the OS is his favorite. You'll have to ask him what that means ... smile.gif

Honestly, I thought the original Captivators (bandpass PR version with a 12" driver and 18" PR) were the best I had heard for music.

BTW, since you are a photographer, what do you think about the Sony DSC RX-100 as a carry around daily shooter? I found them on ebay for $400 and couldn't resist.

I was just rereading some of the posts and saw I missed your question... Sorry about that. The Sony is very good, but my general advice for point and shoots is to not spend more than $200-300 because most won't utilize the features. This has a low aperture lens, hence more cost. This allows for shots in low light conditions where you don't want to use flash. Low light capability is great to have, which allows more of a natural look, but there is another option I've suggested to FAM & friends: canon s110 (prev models s95, s100). The Sony has a f/1.8 lens, and the canon has f/2.0...so hardly much diff for your likely use. Most ppl are setting to auto and shooting 3.5-5.6 range anyway. I'd save the cash and get the Canon, but nothing wrong with Sony either. The best camera is always the one you have with you.

Sorry for the OT guys. Just to make this post relevant...what does JTR stand for? wink.gif
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Has anyone ever played with one of these full band EQs for something like the JTR mains?

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Who hasn't enjoyed making the v-shaped EQ on their old bookshelf systems. I wonder how one of these EQ setups would pan out in a Home Theater Environment? It could be like Audyssey in tailoring response - except you'd have control over what it sounded like...

Yep, I have a DBX dual 31 band EQ. I messed around with it for a little while and it was good for a few filters, but if you really started dialing it in, the noise floor started going up pretty quickly. I learned that it really is a nice piece to use POST audyssey if you use it. Where just a couple filters would further improve the sound for certain. I have been thinking about popping it in and giving it another run with the Danleys though.
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Would anyone be interested in a pair of Triple 8's? 2008 model I drove a state away to pick up. Then shipped them to Jeff in Wisconsin to do driver/crossover upgrades as well as repair a couple of the female mounting nuts he uses for his drivers. He is installing and running full testing on them. They have the JTR logo engraved in the back and have speakon connectors. Basically brand new Triple 8's from the masters hands smile.gif I am not quite absolute 100% set on selling them. Just curious if someone would be interested smile.gif


You're starting to change your mind as often as you do your undies!...lol. Once every two to three days!...lol tongue.gif
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I am curious about the 215 but the 212 is awesome. still my favorite purchase so far. OS's are close second

Has anyone figured out how a pair/lcr set of 215 will negate the need for a sub(s)? Years ago, I had 5 speakers setup for dolby surround, but without a sub. The bass all came thru the LR channels and I never missed not having a sub...Cerwin Vegas btw. I can see this happening with the 215, but one would need lots of powah for the lows...unless the 215 are supposed to be active?? I like the idea of having all inclusive solution, but it seems you would have to get amps for 2ch/ht and subs for ht implementation. What am I missing?
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You're starting to change your mind as often as you do your undies!...lol. Once every two to three days!...lol tongue.gif

Wait, you change your underwear? Anyway, I'm just weighing my options out in front of me is all smile.gif I would be content with LCR T 8's but if I sold these for a much discounted price over a new pair of T 8's then I could have a shot at LCR Triad Golds. And it could work out great for someone on a pair of Triple 8's. Did you get my PM JB? Anything fun to do up there in Vancouver BC? Only thing about going to Canada is a couldn't carry my pistol. Not a dealbreaker though smile.gif

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Would anyone be interested in a pair of Triple 8's? 2008 model I drove a state away to pick up. Then shipped them to Jeff in Wisconsin to do driver/crossover upgrades as well as repair a couple of the female mounting nuts he uses for his drivers. He is installing and running full testing on them. They have the JTR logo engraved in the back and have speakon connectors. Basically brand new Triple 8's from the masters hands smile.gif I am not quite absolute 100% set on selling them. Just curious if someone would be interested smile.gif

Damn, if they were 228's I'd be all over them to use as wides with my 212's.

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Would anyone be interested in a pair of Triple 8's? 2008 model I drove a state away to pick up. Then shipped them to Jeff in Wisconsin to do driver/crossover upgrades as well as repair a couple of the female mounting nuts he uses for his drivers. He is installing and running full testing on them. They have the JTR logo engraved in the back and have speakon connectors. Basically brand new Triple 8's from the masters hands smile.gif I am not quite absolute 100% set on selling them. Just curious if someone would be interested smile.gif


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I was just rereading some of the posts and saw I missed your question... Sorry about that. The Sony is very good, but my general advice for point and shoots is to not spend more than $200-300 because most won't utilize the features. This has a low aperture lens, hence more cost. This allows for shots in low light conditions where you don't want to use flash. Low light capability is great to have, which allows more of a natural look, but there is another option I've suggested to FAM & friends: canon s110 (prev models s95, s100). The Sony has a f/1.8 lens, and the canon has f/2.0...so hardly much diff for your likely use. Most ppl are setting to auto and shooting 3.5-5.6 range anyway. I'd save the cash and get the Canon, but nothing wrong with Sony either. The best camera is always the one you have with you.

Sorry for the OT guys. Just to make this post relevant...what does JTR stand for? wink.gif

JTR ... ( Just Try Reaching-him ) tongue.gif

Thanks for the belated camera info. I bought the Sony and love it. smile.gif

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do all jtr have it etched into the back like that?

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do all jtr have it etched into the back like that?

No, they don't. I know my T12's didn't and the Noesis I have now don't either. I believe it was something on the older models.
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Thanks for the belated camera info. I bought the Sony and love it. smile.gif

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do all jtr have it etched into the back like that?


Just the older models, goes back to Jeff's pro audio roots. I think it stopped around 2009 (not sure exactly).
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Wait, you change your underwear? Anyway, I'm just weighing my options out in front of me is all smile.gif I would be content with LCR T 8's but if I sold these for a much discounted price over a new pair of T 8's then I could have a shot at LCR Triad Golds. And it could work out great for someone on a pair of Triple 8's. Did you get my PM JB? Anything fun to do up there in Vancouver BC? Only thing about going to Canada is a couldn't carry my pistol. Not a dealbreaker though smile.gif

Yeah sorry, I was going to put together a list of cool things that you could do while you're here. I'll send you a PM reply when I get a chance.
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Damn, if they were 228's I'd be all over them to use as wides with my 212's.

If they were 228HT's,I don't think he'd be thinking of selling them.....lol tongue.gif
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do all jtr have it etched into the back like that?
Those are the Originals in 2008 - 09.

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I do have another question: we decided to have two rows of seating. So, I'm thinking instead of doing rears, going with two sets of side surrounds. I'm thinking that putting the rears behind the back row, but optimizing them for listening in the first row will make them too loud for the back row viewers. Any thoughts from anyone?


With row seating proximity to surrounds is always an issue for those sitting at the end of the row. Using dI-poles/bi-poles can mitigate this to an extent, but closer proximity is what it is. I have sat at all locations in both of my rows and never found this as a significant factor. Essentially, you don't know what you don't know when you are in those seats smile.gif.

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I had some of the first home 888's and did not have the etching in them, maybe the pro version?

2007!

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I had some of the first home 888's and did not have the etching in them, maybe the pro version?

2007!

http://www.avsforum.com/t/907823/the-jtr-triple-8s/0_100

Yes I believe they were. Speakon connectors too. Easy enough though. Just screw in - and + and have at it! The logo etched in the back looks really cool. If your room was open so the back of your surrounds were exposed that would be pretty cool. And of course the main differences we have the BMS compression driver and eminence drivers and upgraded handbuilt crossovers from Jeff in these smile.gif

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Can someone confirm was it in 2010 that Jeff made the switch to BMS drivers? For example the 2010 Triple 8's still had the selenium 220 drivers correct?

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If they were 228HT's,I don't think he'd be thinking of selling them.....lol tongue.gif

Don't you recognize that was a subconscious post hoping someone thinking of selling there 228 would see and contact me...that way I can tell my wife that out of nowhere I got an offer to buy some more speakers at an amazing deal. Sheesh, some of you guys are slow wink.gif

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Can someone confirm was it in 2010 that Jeff made the switch to BMS drivers? For example the 2010 Triple 8's still had the selenium 220 drivers correct?

http://jtrspeakers.websitetoolbox.com/post/2011-speaker-improvements-4956031

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Nice, you are very resourceful! I noticed he did not list the change from Dayton mid drivers to Eminence though. I'm sure that was just a quick bullet point. seems like that would've been an important one to list though. Just simply from curiosity what mid range drivers that on the single eight? Obviously it has a bit more X max being that only one driver per speaker

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Okay, so what you're saying is that you want me to contact you in about 6 months then?....lol
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