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Your little girl looks to be enjoying the new subwoofer. Awesome picture. smile.gif
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Lol. I am surprised it doesn't have ponies on it. Everything just about is either ponies or horses! I have to act like I like her little pony toys and play with her and let her ride on my back like I am a horse. eek.gif


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I found the old posts in the Audyssey thread from 2009 and 2010. Actually, Chris calls the process "Level Normalization," and the description of it is just level compensation for the filters. There is no "compensatory FR change" in the level normalization process. The FR changes all occur in the filter taps for each channel.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-51779/17340#post_16982682
http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-51779/24840#post_18278211

That is an explanation of the process for the subwoofer channel, but the same process is used on the main channels. On the first set of chirps Audyssey measures the FR and the levels and distances. It then just measures the FR on the subsequent chirps. It then calculates the filters to be the inverse of the measured FR, (in the frequency and time domains.) It can set multiple filter taps for each channel, some boosts and some cuts. If the sum total of all the filters in a given channel results in an overall cut in level, such that the level would now be below 75 dB, it boosts it back up to 75 dB. On the other side, if the sum total of all the filters in a given channel results in an overall boost in level, such that the level would now be above 75 dB, it cuts it back to 75 dB. But these are truly just simple level adjustments, not a "compensatory FR change."

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I can't say I know exactly what's going on since Audyssey is a black box, but I've seen the bass boost problems that Chris himself has attributed to the Audyssey normalization process that are clearly not as a result of a simple averaged channel trim adjustment or simple volume normalization. But I don't want to discuss Audyssey issues here. Chris has never, and I believe will never, admit Audyssey has any inherent faults.

I very much respect your contributions Craig, and this is really an issue that is not worth continued debate IMO. Audyssey is what it is and it will not change, so it's all good.

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Yes I was quit impressed with them!! And will taking them as soon as new grill arrives. Now I just have to talk you out of one set of your S8's wink.gif . As for your subs, that is some serious bass you can produce. Concert level without breaking a sweat!!! My ears where ringing for a good hour after!!!  In a good way smile.gif

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Finally my new sub came! JTR S2

This is it next to my THT (retired to the garage setup) and my oldest daughter that is a little over 2.5 years old. The THT had been wrapped in suede and that is why it looks raw right now.

This is it in it's new home naked.

And with it's clothes on (blurry pic)

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edit...why the hell are my pictures so big??? I can make them smaller if you guys think it is overwhelming.

Awesome, congrats! Love the wall treatments too.
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Craig would it be correct to use an audio test disc (Spears & Munsil HD Benchmark and Calibration Disc 2nd Edition) with Audyssey engaged to change trim to make reference (75dB) at -5dB MV since my Denon AVR4311 is maxing the trim (-12dB) on JTR T12 LCR, but not on my DefTech surrounds. Using a RS spl meter would I just set MV at -5 and then set all trim at 75dB?

Does the Spears and Munsil disc use a - 20 dbFS tone or a -30 dBFS tone? Asked another way, are you supposed to set the levels to 85 or 75 with that disc?

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Awesome, congrats! Love the wall treatments too.

No kidding! Is that just wall to wall absorption panels in different depths to also kind of double as diffusion as well?

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Holy crap!!!! I dub thee JTR REX!!!!!

Pretty sure you need a full beard and be into wrestling grizzly bears before Jeff will even consider selling you one. Thats a man's speaker right there.


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Holy crap!!!! I dub thee JTR REX!!!!!

Pretty sure you need a full beard and be into wrestling grizzly bears before Jeff will even consider selling you one. Thats a man's speaker right there.

The Manliest high efficiency tower pro audio/home theater speaker in the history of mankind! lol tongue.gif

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Awesome, congrats! Love the wall treatments too.
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No kidding! Is that just wall to wall absorption panels in different depths to also kind of double as diffusion as well?
I have three different depths and only the staggered squares have oc703 in them. Also the back panels as well. I never thought about the diffuser part. That is actually interesting. I got the staggered idea from landshark but put my own twist to it. I think that I want to make the back wall a little unorthodox as well but am sick of make panels and it is cold enough for me not to want to work in the garage. You guys can laugh at me know because I am in Houston and your winters are brutal compared to ours lol.


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So... What is it?

It is the new 215T. That is likely RMK's, as he is first in line for the new JTR REX.


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It is the new 215T. That is likely RMK's, as he is first in line for the new JTR REX.

Is there anywhere that I can read about the specs? Looks like two 15" drivers in a tall ported tower with a horn, but I want to know more.


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Is there anywhere that I can read about the specs? Looks like two 15" drivers in a tall ported tower with a horn, but I want to know more.

Not much out there. The JTR site probably has the most detail:

http://jtrspeakers.websitetoolbox.com/post/jtr-noesis-floor-standing-full-range-speakers-6631501


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Not much out there. The JTR site probably has the most detail:

http://jtrspeakers.websitetoolbox.com/post/jtr-noesis-floor-standing-full-range-speakers-6631501

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Man I just need to dump the wife so I can get some REAL speakers like that!!
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Those are gonna cost me $1000 in shipping I bet hahahahaha!

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It even has a slot, so you should be all set! tongue.gif
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By the way, I will be joining the JTR family after all - three 212HT's in rosewood veneer. Some may recall that I auditioned the JBL STX835 and was very impressed. It turned out the JBL's horn ended up not being able to be rotated for center channel use due to placement of the handles. Also, time didn't help the HF compression driver smooth out as much as I had hoped. ETA on the veneered Noesis: six weeks.
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That must be the one I canceled...for now wink.gif

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I hope Jeff puts some lead in the bottom too so those things don't tip over. eek.gif

Well there's the magnets in the 15's smile.gif. I've got some nice spikes left over from my Revels in case I need to keep them from walking around.
BTW, Jeff is hobbit short so they aren't that big ... tongue.gifwink.gif
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Does the Spears and Munsil disc use a - 20 dbFS tone or a -30 dBFS tone? Asked another way, are you supposed to set the levels to 85 or 75 with that disc?

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@RMK! - what's the eta on your 215's?

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When I was talking to Jeff a few days ago, he said in the next few weeks he'll have his prototypes ready.... I guess that means the 215's and the 210's.

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I'm told mid March ...

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BTW, Jeff is hobbit short so they aren't that big ... tongue.gifwink.gif

I thought they were 72 inches tall?

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