Originally Posted by popalock
Originally Posted by RMK! View Post
I pulled the Orbit Shifter's out of the HT room yesterday as they are going to their new home today. I did a quick Audyssey 3 position and set the Noesis 212's to full range and played some music and movie clips. It has been a long time since I have heard the system without subs and it was a shocking revelation. Restating a well know fact, these speakers must be used with a good subwoofer (or four). I don't know exactly when I became a bass guy, but I am definitely one now.
The 215T's have a pretty high bar to clear ...
I have no doubt you will love the 215T...
However, $50 says you will end up adding subs back in the mix...
No LCR/Mains will ever satisfy your bass jones.
Take that to the bank!
This Thread moves so fast that I often have to review back to see where it's been. This little exchange between myself and popalock was interesting. Here ^ I was saying how anemic the Noesis 212's are in the bass category, and how much I missed the bass of the OS's.
We just got back from a 4 day East Coast business trip (Philadelphia and DC, frigging freezing
) and did a quick Washington tour of the Air and Space Museum so when we got home yesterday we decided to watch Apollo 13 on the HT (wife hadn't seen the movie). With just the Triple 8LP mains (run full range) and Slanted 8 center (no subs) it was amazingly cinematic. It seemed like movie theater levels of bass (Saturn 5 liftoff) and the dialog intelligibility and clarity were amazingly good. All in all, a totally satisfying movie experience, I'm sure the big AT screen (there I go again
) was a major contributor to my satisfaction but I have to say, as nice as the OS's were, they were at times distracting. The level of tactile in my room (wood suspended floor) was literally crazy even with them run level matched.
While virtually every male (and a couple of women) who heard/felt them was impressed (perhaps an understatement
), not everyone likes riding around the neighborhood on an unmuffled Harley. While it is fun to feel the guttural power and rumble of a sub
stantial bass system, it can also detract from the overall sound quality of a system (putting on my flack jacket as I type
). I can already hear the howls of disagreement from all of you car audio bass guys but as I was never into that scene, and preferring a more balanced approach to sound, I am and have always been a bit of an outlier (although a schizophrenic one
) in this Thread, Diversity being a good thing, I just thought I would post these musings and let the cards fall where they may. Please excuse the excess metaphor useage, and I hope no one takes this personally
. We are all entitled to have it our way and I thought I would share my minor epiphany with the group.
Also, I wanted to get the popalock wager on the books as I can use the cash to pay for those silly balanced Euroblock terminal connects for the Rane RPM88 multiprocessor.