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Originally Posted by rhed /t/1165099/official-jtr-speaker-thread/12780#post_23972181
So the full range speakers Jeff's talking about is a go? If so, I can't wait. Also will FR spreakers require a separate amp to drive it instead of the AVR?
Sounds like one of them might be and as a full range speaker, and if they are 95db efficiency, then it will be needing a pretty good amp to drive it. That argument is already being made for the 101db Noesis 212.
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Originally Posted by popalock /t/1165099/official-jtr-speaker-thread/12780#post_23972203
Ballz... Ya beat me to him!
Anyone else considering selling, please keep me in mind.
I'm kinda scratching my head at Jeff's approach on proposing a price increase and a full range offering.
Seems like a double hit against sales of the current Noesis line.
Hummmm...
In thinking about this I seriously doubt there will be many (if any) folks selling the Noesis to jump at what will certainly be (at least in the case of the 215) a much more expensive speaker. Archaea called it a "Flagship" loudspeaker for JTR and I think that is right on. The issues that Doc brought up are also valid so using the 215 as LCR in a HT environment would be a risky proposition without a lot of planning and forethought. It appears to be a true 2 channel monster flat to 20hz incorporating that amazing CD that we Noesis owners have come to love. I can see the 215 as incredible in a two channel music priority system (sans subs).
I suppose a pair of the 215's along with the 212HT as center and some additional sub woofage might give someone the ultimate movie/2 channel music system and I guess that's where my mind went at least initially. Honestly, I was thinking the 210 might be the answer for such a system but as others have stated only reaching down to 38Hz might make the 210 a non-starter.
I see developments like this as good for the brand and Jeff is clearly listening to comments about the need for a full range capable loudspeaker. I don't think there is any Noesis owner who wouldn't want to hear what Jeff could do with a speaker like the 215. That doesn't mean that we are ready to scrap our 212's (or even 228's) and jump ship. It is just another interesting alternative in a growing line of products and I for one can't wait to hear it.
As far as a price increase goes, it is I'm sure it's going to be nominal and directly related to an increase in material costs. I remember Mark Seaton telling me (and this was a few years ago) that Jeff's margins were too low. I believe that this is like all of his price increases over the years. It isn't Jeff moving to higher profit margins, but rather maintaining those relatively lean margins by offsetting costs.