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What are your future plans. I probably missed you saying it already, but are you keeping all four of your S2's and the 215's? That is a sick setup!

Definately keeping the 4 S2's to go along with the 3 215's and 4 single 8's that's on order. With movies and SACD all speakers and subs will on. When days I just like to listen 2 channel music, I'll set the subs to "no". And "large" for mains. Right now I'm in the market for separate power for the 215's. But before I take the plunge on amps, my friend who's a DJ will lend me a few amps to try out. So it'll run on my AVR for now which is 4 ohm capable. Until I decide which amps to go with. I'm really looking into mono blocks though or bridge pro amps if I go that route.
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good points, I will run Audyssey and make adjustments but it would not be useful to extrapolate the response to speakers I will get in the future.  I guess I'll just have to wait till I have my speakers to figure that stuff out, just too many variables. Even if someone on the forum had the same exact setup that I plan to have, they still would have a totally different response based on their room size and acoustic treatments... I think I'm starting to get it:).  I'll stick with a minidsp for now.

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Yes I can toe in a little bit. I'm leaning toawards putting all three speakers behind the screen. That makes for an 11 foot spread left to right. All upright. The speakers are about 12" wide and my studs have 14" of space between each. So I can toe in enough with that two spare inches between the studs.

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I bet that will be pretty awesome. Have you picked sub driver for those sealed enclosures you have? Really sucks about the delay on the Dayton Audio driver.

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So with all this baffle talk is it second best to place absorption behind the speaker if a baffle wall is not possible? I mean better than leaving it bare?

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Yes we all grow up and mature at some point! biggrin.gif

Oh no.. Not me.. I refuse to be old..lol.. Maybe I produce to much testosterone.. Matter of fact I think I've been going through a 10 year mid crisis! Lol..
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Yes I can toe in a little bit. I'm leaning toawards putting all three speakers behind the screen. That makes for an 11 foot spread left to right. All upright. The speakers are about 12" wide and my studs have 14" of space between each. So I can toe in enough with that two spare inches between the studs.
I am thinking of doing a baffle wall also. Would have to DIY as there is very little in the HT budget. I will probably start the screen wall late summer and would be interested in following the details of your build when you do it. Is there a DIY guide that you are using to build it?

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Oh no.. Not me.. I refuse to be old..lol.. Maybe I produce to much testosterone.. Matter of fact I think I've been going through a 10 year mid crisis! Lol..

Maybe those new Red Wing boots combined with your exceptional Testosterone production will up your production at work and you could do a 7 channel 215RT systems with quad S2's eek.gif

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Maybe those new Red Wing boots combined with your exceptional Testosterone production will up your production at work and you could do a 7 channel 215RT systems with quad S2's eek.gif

LMAO!!.. Nice one brother! I caught on to that one! Lol!
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Yes, most in-wall speakers are designed as "infinite" baffle speakers. However, as I said above, most in-walls are compromised designs which don't take optimal advantage of the benefits of the infinite baffle design.

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Thanks - will take a closer look at the PDF paper.
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Well for those interested in my latest REW weirdness it has become obvious it is software acting up. I un-installed everything and re-installed following the Mac computer process found in AustinJerry's setup guide. I had followed it before when I was completely new and the setup and operation were flawless. I have literally been through 30 plus evenings of measurement sessions just getting to know the software and it's capabilities and obviously optimizing subwoofer placement in my room. And also to see the positive changes, and what filters to implement with my mini dsp unit. But now I can't even to get it to work right. There is a simple process in which you calibrate the SPL levels in REW on a button on REW's SPL meter. This obviously gives you an accurate noise floor and then accurate SPL levels of your sweeps. I had a noise floor of 44-45db before and after treatments about 41-42 db. As expected...But now after calibrating I have a noise floor of 71db in REW lol! My RS SPL meter reads 37db lol!

Anyway I think I am done trying to figure it out, although it will bug the crap out of me. I may pick up a windows based laptop to continue in the future. Unitl then I may troll HTS to see if any Mac users have had issues. And enjoy the dang system!!!!!!!!!

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LMAO!!.. Nice one brother! I caught on to that one! Lol!

For real though I finally got a pair of the Georgia Romeo's and they are the only shoe my feet have never hurt in! I'm all over the place and here and there I would get aches but not the Romeo's. I wouldn't say they are the most durable shoe and won't last like Red Wing's but the cost 65 a pair so...anyway, back to speaks...

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Well for those interested in my latest REW weirdness it has become obvious it is software acting up. I un-installed everything and re-installed following the Mac computer process found in AustinJerry's setup guide. I had followed it before when I was completely new and the setup and operation were flawless. I have literally been through 30 plus evenings of measurement sessions just getting to know the software and it's capabilities and obviously optimizing subwoofer placement in my room. And also to see the positive changes, and what filters to implement with my mini dsp unit. But now I can't even to get it to work right. There is a simple process in which you calibrate the SPL levels in REW on a button on REW's SPL meter. This obviously gives you an accurate noise floor and then accurate SPL levels of your sweeps. I had a noise floor of 44-45db before and after treatments about 41-42 db. As expected...But now after calibrating I have a noise floor of 71db in REW lol! My RS SPL meter reads 37db lol!

Anyway I think I am done trying to figure it out, although it will bug the crap out of me. I may pick up a windows based laptop to continue in the future. Unitl then I may troll HTS to see if any Mac users have had issues. And enjoy the dang system!!!!!!!!!

jp.. Have you tried moving the subs around? Maybe try front firing the SubM's. Maybe xt32 is doing something to the subs.
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Tell me more, what is the RCA style? I think uninstalling everything and re-instralling is what I am going to do. I have bass just not during my REW sweeps
Instead of digital output via the computer's HDMI, use the conventional analogue out, ie 3.5mm audiojack or RCA on USB audio interface.
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Instead of digital output via the computer's HDMI, use the conventional analogue out, ie 3.5mm audiojack or RCA on USB audio interface.

hmmm, know of any tutorials on this setup? smile.gif

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This article by Anthony Grimani explains the concept of baffle walls.
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Thanks, good read.

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Sweet! Thanks! So that is just a 3.5mm to L/R RCA HUH? Seems too simple!

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I upgraded to an Onkyo 5509 pre/pro and beringher inuke 3000 DSP's a few weeks ago. I guess I am still not used to it.

Last night I turned on the NHL playoffs and had no sound. Turned off the onkyo and dish receiver several times until I realized I didn't turn on my amps....this is the second time this happened!

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Get a smart switching power strip or a monster hts 5300 or something equivalent to turn the amps on and off with the preamp. You are running the inukes on mains duty and probably sucking very little power.

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Get a smart switching power strip or a monster hts 5300 or something equivalent to turn the amps on and off with the preamp. You are running the inukes on mains duty and probably sucking very little power.

I forgot to mention that I did order a used power conditioner that has 6 outlets that are activated via a 12v input.

I felt really dumb the second time it happened!

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Just an FYI ... there is another JTR powered HT of the Month starting today. It has a really sad back story about a slightly neurotic guy who keeps changing out his equipment every few months. I just don't understand people who can't be happy with what they have ... confused.gif
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Just an FYI ... there is another JTR powered HT of the Month starting today. It has a really sad back story about a slightly neurotic guy who keeps changing out his equipment every few months. I just don't understand people who can't be happy with what they have ... confused.gif
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CONGRATS!

I enjoy reading about theaters being honored that have JTR speakers in them...and especially a room like yours.

My room(while not nearly as nice as yours) is also a room that I had to keep somewhat intact in the event we sold the house so it could be converted back into a bedroom if needed.

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CONGRATS!

I enjoy reading about theaters being honored that have JTR speakers in them...and especially a room like yours.

My room(while not nearly as nice as yours) is also a room that I had to keep somewhat intact in the event we sold the house so it could be converted back into a bedroom if needed.

Great job!

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Wow, clearly, that guy has a sickness. Is it contagious? I hope so. I am so jealous. Great job by Scott, chronicling the improvement of your system over the years.
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Dude, that is awesome.Congrats! thank you for the kind advice you have provided me on an apparently never ending quest for home theater nirvana.

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congrats on the write up Rob. It has been fun watching it develop over the last several years. You have positively influenced many readers here on AVS by sharing your HT journey (me included!)
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congrats on the write up Rob. It has been fun watching it develop over the last several years. You have positively influenced many readers here on AVS by sharing your HT journey (me included!)

And certainly been the JTR pioneer!

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Nice write up and still one of the nicest HT rooms filled with all JTR gear. Congrats! Remember this Rob, for me it all started out in your OS thread. And you know this..So any journey with my recent JTR subs and speakers is all your fault!! tongue.gif
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