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Congrats carp.. I'm sure as a hardcore audiophile as yourself. I know you'll be very pleased with the 215's. You, RMK, N8, and COACH are lucky to have experience almost a full line of JTR speakers and subs. I wish I got to do that. But I'm not as hardcore as you guys. Matter of fact, I've been in the JTR club less then a year. And just hanging out around the JTR forum with all you guys impression gives me confidence in purchase.
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This is what I am waiting to hear from you. I would rethink how my setup is aligned if you truly find the integration that much better. I would likely at that point use the DCX to attempt to mesh the 18's together better with the danleys to create a full range theoretically speaking... Might be fun to try anyways.


I don't understand how it would work exactly, but it sounds like a worthwhile experiment! Would the subs be in the same spots? I assume you don't want to lose that quarter point placement.
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I hope to hear some Dream Theater and Sabbath on those puppies in Dec/Jan! Will probably make me want to sell body parts on the black market.

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Congrats carp.. I'm sure as a hardcore audiophile as yourself. I know you'll be very pleased with the 215's. You, RMK, N8, and COACH are lucky to have experience almost a full line of JTR speakers and subs. I wish I got to do that. But I'm not as hardcore as you guys. Matter of fact, I've been in the JTR club less then a year. And just hanging out around the JTR forum with all you guys impression gives me confidence in purchase.



Thanks rhed, you too. smile.gif When are you getting yours?
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I hope to hear some Dream Theater and Sabbath on those puppies in Dec/Jan! Will probably make me want to sell body parts on the black market.


Heck yeah man, I'm off school then - perfect time for a long listening session! If you haven't heard the Metallica movie by then that will be required as well.

By then you will be able to get a good used price from me as I anxiously await the JTR 224's. eek.gifwink.gif
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Yep, they will be the pair that will be played at the gtg. Haha, hopefully Jeff doesn't blow them up. biggrin.gif

So, I will be taking up my wife's new minivan. Stow and go seats were designed with JTR 215's in mind. Jeff is also bringing a 212 for Grant to go with the 2 212's he bought from me.

Jeff told me I could keep the pair that he's bringing for a couple weeks. Possession is 99% of the battle. Sorry buddy.
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Jeff told me I could keep the pair that he's bringing for a couple weeks. Possession is 99% of the battle. Sorry buddy.


Cool man, no problem at all! I have a lot of free time in the summer so I would be more than happy to lounge around your place and hang out in your theater room for 2 weeks!! tongue.gifwink.gif
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Congrats carp.. I'm sure as a hardcore audiophile as yourself.

Can we really call Carp an audiophile? I always understood an audiophile to try reproducing the signal as close as possible to the original...you know, with responses that are given in +- 2db from 20K to 20 Hz. smile.gif With Carp it would be more like +- 2db from 20K to 100 and then +10 or +15...not exactly audiophile...and since most of us on this JTR thread have similar tastes...how did the JTR Speaker, an audiophile class speaker...get bastardized to such an extent? smile.gif

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I don't understand how it would work exactly, but it sounds like a worthwhile experiment! Would the subs be in the same spots? I assume you don't want to lose that quarter point placement.

Yep same spots, would just switch the AVR to full range and take a L/R out to the DCX and actively cross there. Could be very feasible.

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Can we really call Carp an audiophile? I always understood an audiophile to try reproducing the signal as close as possible to the original...you know, with responses that are given in +- 2db from 20K to 20 Hz. smile.gif With Carp it would be more like +- 2db from 20K to 100 and then +10 or +15...not exactly audiophile...and since most of us on this JTR thread have similar tastes...how did the JTR Speaker, an audiophile class speaker...get bastardized to such an extent? smile.gif

I wanted to make sure that my comments were not taken as a dig at Carp per se but many on this thread that like our bass a little hot. But I looked up the definition of audiophile and all of us meet the first definition I linked to...and I'm sure some would also for the second definition but we don't need to discuss that.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/audiophile

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Don't be back pedaling now dgage. Carp is really ticked and actually told me he wants to challenge you to an arm wrestling match on 6/28. It's going to be epic.
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I wanted to make sure that my comments were not taken as a dig at Carp per se but many on this thread that like our bass a little hot. But I looked up the definition of audiophile and all of us meet the first definition I linked to...and I'm sure some would also for the second definition but we don't need to discuss that.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/audiophile

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=audiophile


Haha, no worries man, I am definitely not an audiophile. What kind of audiophile has 8 18 inch subs and listens to Slayer?!?!? biggrin.gif
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Don't be back pedaling now dgage. Carp is really ticked and actually told me he wants to challenge you to an arm wrestling match on 6/28. It's going to be epic.

All I know is if I do ever find myself in an arm wrestling match the key is to do a lot of really loud short burst shouting and use as many hercky-jercky movements as possible. Archaea never knew what hit him.
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Congrats carp.. I'm sure as a hardcore audiophile as yourself. I know you'll be very pleased with the 215's. You, RMK, N8, and COACH are lucky to have experience almost a full line of JTR speakers and subs. I wish I got to do that. But I'm not as hardcore as you guys. Matter of fact, I've been in the JTR club less then a year. And just hanging out around the JTR forum with all you guys impression gives me confidence in purchase.
noo you're not hard core at all. You've only been here a year and either have or have ordered 4 S2 subs (2 more coming), 3- 215RT's and surrounds too. No not hard core at all:eek:

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noo you're not hard core at all. You've only been here a year and either have or have ordered 4 S2 subs (2 more coming), 3- 215RT's and surrounds too. No not hard core at all:eek:

Hahaha! Hardcore in the best ways. cool.gif

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Thanks rhed, you too. smile.gif When are you getting yours?
I don't know bro.. Didn't ask Jeff what's the updates. But I know we're in good hands. And I'm just glad it's one person building (Jeff) the speakers.
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noo you're not hard core at all. You've only been here a year and either have or have ordered 4 S2 subs (2 more coming), 3- 215RT's and surrounds too. No not hard core at all:eek:

Brotha!! I'm just in it for the ride.. But my dream is to have 3 OS.. Hehe..
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Brotha!! I'm just in it for the ride.. But my dream is to have 3 OS.. Hehe..
when you come to Axpona next year we'll have to get you out to hear them. Then I'll come to Hawaii and hear the 6S2's and we'll compare notes.smile.gif

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when you come to Axpona next year we'll have to get you out to hear them. Then I'll come to Hawaii and hear the 6S2's and we'll compare notes.smile.gif

Definately.. smile.gif
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Ya, Can't say I'm to impressed so far with the "upgrade"
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I wanted to get the JTR community opinion on the following speaker configurations would be best..(For 80% HT/20% music)...

Option A: 3 x 212, 4 x 228, 2 x OS

Option B: 3 x 212, 4 x 228, 2 x S2

option C: 3 x 212, 4 x 228, 4 x Hsu Subs($1k level)

option D: 3 x 215, 4 x 228, 2 x S2 (pre-wire for future when budget allows)

I spoke with Jeff he told me I would be wasting my $ with the 215's upfront, go with option A (surprise to hear the owner steer me away from his top of the line)...problem with option A is if the theater is to have a clean look with speakers behind the false wall and in columns, you cant hide 2 orbital shifters

My builder's HT team like option C, they claim nothing beats the smoothness of bass of 4 wall midpoint subs (12" $1K Hsu or SVS)

My preference is Option B or D...the raw output of dual S2 front & Back will surpass that perfect little (4) sub symmetry?

or option D- You listen to 215's upfront (which I will hear on 6/28 thanks to DLBeck-David) they turn you into a 50/50 music/HT user, and output enough bass, you can live without the S2 (but pre-wire side walls just in case) Can an S2 be fit in a large column? or look stupid so big? Possible difficulty blending the LFE of the 215's with added S2's if required..need a complex JR river or Rane setup config file?

Note- I show speakers next to each other for illustration only, but in reality the S2 up-front could be under center channel or side wall subs under surrounds.etc. 4 small subs can tuck in a column easy! etc...

feedback appreciated

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OPTION E: 215RTs with 2 SI HS24 DIY subs. I would pick the 215s over the 212s for two reasons; wider soundstage due to larger horn and much stronger midbass. And I agree with the HT team that more subs around the room is better. I'd recommend getting a pair of SI HS24 DIY subs as they were awesome/phenomenal/world-class at Beasts GTG powered by a Peavey IPR7500 pro amp. UXL-18 or the upcoming Dayton 18 would be good options. If you don't want to go DIY, then I'd look to the future and see how many you'd add in the future. If only a few, get a pair of OS's but I'm a fan of sealed as they're easier to integrate so I'd recommend the S2s but they wouldn't have the output above 20Hz that the OS's would have until you get a few.

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