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How much was shipping on that friggin piece?!?!
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How much was shipping on that friggin piece?!?!
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Yes I did. 2-215RT and 1-215RM
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Just sent my buddy a picture of the pallet.....Give him something to look forward to when gets off work tonight.
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I see you had a refrigerator delivered also, do you have a picture of the speakers ?
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Actually those are my new Atmos Amps...
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Yes I did. 2-215RT and 1-215RM
What is the price of the 215 RM?
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The book of Eli scene with the Gatling gun id VERY surround demanding. Especially when they began zooming in on it!
I watched the Book of Eli gatling gun scene at -5 and it was awesome. You're right about the very active surrounds on that one.

I bumped the sub levels a couple of db's and did several Scuba Steve Bluray demos. The THX demo (mushroom bass) had the hair on my the back of my neck standing up. Frigging awesome ...

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I'd like to see a current sweep of your FR with the new 215's if you have one laying around Rob, just out of curiosity
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I watched the Book of Eli gatling gun scene at -5 and it was awesome. You're right about the very active surrounds on that one.

I bumped the sub levels a couple of db's and did several Scuba Steve Bluray demos. The THX demo (mushroom bass) had the hair on my the back of my neck standing up. Frigging awesome ...

Love these 215's
Yes I just love that scene! I wish those sound engineers on films would do more stuff like that! I am sure things will get better as I upgrade surrounds over the years. But that one is just fun One of my demo discs I got from Buzz (he just got his dream 212,S8 system) has the mushroom THX scene you describe on the bass menu before you go into any scenes and plays automatically. It has the little robot and cows mooing on another. And fish and whales on the music section. They are all either THX or DTS little sound demos. I do remember Buzz saying it was a new one someone put out. Got it from him like 6 moths ago. I am sure he can chime in if he visits today But those menu demos I think are my fav after that BOE gatling gun scene. Although tops is the Atmos theater demo I watched in a real atmos theater. So many leaves flying around and 60+ speakers! Fun stuff

Oh yea, that THX mushroom demo at my normal movie volumes is ridiculous! I bet it is a life changing experience on 215's

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12hz is the lowest, you can turn it up from there.
I'm going to have to get one. 20hz is as low as you can set a HP on the inuke, way too high because it cuts off way too much at 20 and below. Also I have a feeling we were on to something with an analog HP not screwing up the response like a digital HP does.



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Looks like the KC group is still up. Does anyone know what frequency the crossover is set to on the compression driver in the single 8's? It was brought up in a discussion I was having and I can't seem to find that spec anywhere. Not that it really matters, we were just interested. I'll ask Jeff if no one knows off the top of their heads.

Did you ever find this out? - curious.


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Awesome - so glad you got 'em. Thanks for not getting too ticked at me... Looking forward to your impressions. If you can try them wide for 2 channel listening - wider from each other than you are from them. I probably already said that to you but just in case...
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I know how I am whenever somebody gets new speakers....all I want to see is pictures of them out of the box, so here you go!

First of all, these were packed perfectly and I like how Jeff packs them with no boxes....smart move. Makes it harder to sell them used.

My brother-in-law, buddy and myself just finished getting these into my room. It brought to light how out of shape I am because if it weren't for the the third person, I don't think I would had gotten all three in the room. The RT's went first and the RM was like a "feather"....

These pictures are with my wife's camera off her phone and my lighting is horrible in that room. Also, the left and right speakers aren't in the correct spots yet. I need to adjust a few things before I slide them into place. We are having some really nasty storms right now, so I am holding off turning everything on due to the lightning. Listening might have to wait until tomorrow morning or later tonight.

The center sitting the stand designed and built by David is my favorite. Both my buddy and BIL thought it looked amazing...
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I know how I am whenever somebody gets new speakers....all I want to see is pictures of them out of the box, so here you go!

First of all, these were packed perfectly and I like how Jeff packs them with no boxes....smart move. Makes it harder to sell them used.

My brother-in-law, buddy and myself just finished getting these into my room. It brought to light how out of shape I am because if it weren't for the the third person, I don't think I would had gotten all three in the room. The RT's went first and the RM was like a "feather"....

These pictures are with my wife's camera off her phone and my lighting is horrible in that room. Also, the left and right speakers aren't in the correct spots yet. I need to adjust a few things before I slide them into place. We are having some really nasty storms right now, so I am holding off turning everything on due to the lightning. Listening might have to wait until tomorrow morning or later tonight.

The center sitting the stand designed and built by David is my favorite. Both my buddy and BIL thought it looked amazing...
The only pictures I can see are the center channels. The other two are washed out and dark. Lets go, break out Cannon EOS.
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Sorry...that is all you get for now. Lol. I don't own a digital camera anymore.
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I'm going to have to get one. 20hz is as low as you can set a HP on the inuke, way too high because it cuts off way too much at 20 and below. Also I have a feeling we were on to something with an analog HP not screwing up the response like a digital HP does.






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Awesome - so glad you got 'em. Thanks for not getting too ticked at me... Looking forward to your impressions. If you can try them wide for 2 channel listening - wider from each other than you are from them. I probably already said that to you but just in case...
I submit you'd never be able to tell the difference between an 18hz and 20hz hpf in real world music listening. You can borrow my mic2200 to test.

You listen to metal and rock music. There's little below 40hz bass guitar bottom in that genre.

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I submit you'd never be able to tell the difference between an 18hz and 20hz hpf in real world music listening. You can borrow my mic2200 to test.

You listen to metal and rock music. There's little below 40hz bass guitar bottom in that genre.


When I watch the frequency response in real time on the omnimic software as I turn on and off a HPF at 20hz you really start to lose a lot on the low 20's. Jeff told me to set a HPF at either 16 or 17hz. In my head it will matter.

I don't use a HPF for music. I was thinking about using one so I could run the mains full range + subs for movies.

I listen to all kinds of stuff now, including some heavy bass music. I'm only 90 percent metal...

Nothing bothers the 215's without a HPF except for Bass I Love you so far.
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Sorry...that is all you get for now. Lol. I don't own a digital camera anymore.
Allright, keep em all for yourself. When my delivery comes in a few weeks, Im not sharing.
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I'd like to see a current sweep of your FR with the new 215's if you have one laying around Rob, just out of curiosity
Here are a couple of Onmimic short sine sweeps;

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And this is from 1M left front:


Looks like the bass is a little umm hot ...

This is pretty much the way Jeff left it with the Rane EQ. I did bump the LFE channels a few DB today.

BTW, Audyssey is no longer being used with my current setup.

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Looks like the bass is a little umm hot ...

This is pretty much the way Jeff left it with the Rane EQ. I did bump the LFE channels a few DB today.
A little hot??? Only 20dB...you can go at least another 10.
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I'm going to have to get one. 20hz is as low as you can set a HP on the inuke, way too high because it cuts off way too much at 20 and below. Also I have a feeling we were on to something with an analog HP not screwing up the response like a digital HP does.
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Carp, the iNuke's can be "tricked" to do HPF below 20 Hz. There is a step-by-step guide that has been posted a few times over in the DIY section. I believe LTD02 posted it, I dont have an iNuke so I dont have it bookmarked.

It is a common practice. May save some funds for your new center channel speaker.

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Allright, keep em all for yourself. When my delivery comes in a few weeks, Im not sharing.
I'll get you some pictures on Friday when I'm over there.
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When I watch the frequency response in real time on the omnimic software as I turn on and off a HPF at 20hz you really start to lose a lot on the low 20's. Jeff told me to set a HPF at either 16 or 17hz. In my head it will matter.
What crossover slope? 12db? 24db?
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Very nice!

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Allright, keep em all for yourself. When my delivery comes in a few weeks, Im not sharing.
Trust me, if I had better pictures everybody would get to see them.
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And with all of the S8 talk, here are my normal Slanted 8s custom mounted in the ceiling for the rears and side surrounds. I guess I need to get a completed picture but I'm not home right now. Suffice it to say they blend in pretty well when painted and with white grill cloth.

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David, those look really good you've accomplished the low profile without making them wider. Of course I'm pretty sure you have better carpentry skills than I do.
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Coach, the 215's look great. How are they sounding?
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Coach, the 215's look great. How are they sounding?
He wouldn't know...it's been storming and he keeps things unplugged due to some previous run-ins with lightning damage. He promises he'll fire them up tomorrow morning. And then I'll be over there on Friday when we'll finish the treatments for his entire front wall and ceiling in front of the screen. Then I'll help him configure the MiniDSP NanoAVR to integrate the 215RTs...as best I can. I'm not the expert that some are with DSP but I'm working on it. So he'll have some initial impressions tomorrow and hopefully we'll have some room integrated feedback Friday afternoon. I can't wait to listen to them. They look like absolute gigantic monsters in his room. His theater is a normal size bedroom but with the 215RTs, it's tiny now. I laugh at how small the bedroom door looks next to the 215RTs.
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Carp, the iNuke's can be "tricked" to do HPF below 20 Hz. There is a step-by-step guide that has been posted a few times over in the DIY section. I believe LTD02 posted it, I dont have an iNuke so I dont have it bookmarked.

It is a common practice. May save some funds for your new center channel speaker.

Really? Very cool I'll look into it!


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What crossover slope? 12db? 24db?
I tried them all, I didn't like the looks of losing all that bass no matter what slope.
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