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Location: Kansas City, MO
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I went to carp's last night, and we watched some demo clips, listened to some music, and then watched an episode of Band of Brothers. The 215's are really nice! I learned my sweet spot seat is not in the same spot as Sheldon's. His front row distance has him in the sweet spot to his ears, but the sweet spot to me was a couple feet back. The back row center was a better sweet spot to my ears (for stereo listening). In his front seat I just heard left and right speakers blooming sound in a whole front wall sort of way (which I did like) - like the entire front wall was covered with speakers - but no real focused center channel sound. To get the focused center channel sound most seem to strive for in stereo listening - 2 foot or 3 foot back was where it resolved for me. So we had some discussion on that because there were four people there and I think I was the only one who needed to be further back to hear the traditional sweet spot sound. Not sure what that means - but interesting.
I also finally got to experience the crowsons played for all they were worth. They are excellent, but I'd still call them subtle until you let them loose or play really low effect like 7hz in the Bass I Love you song which can really make you move. I personally felt his eight 18's were worth about 40% of the shake of the two crowsons maxed on most of the material at whatever spl level he had them (on concrete floor). (the subs were hot - how hot I don't know). I felt the wood riser in the back of the room was 60% of the crowson shake. The crowsons are really excellent - I agree you can't really tell they are artificial shake. Sheldon says his guests can't tell he even has the crowsons unless he tells them or shows them. I totally believe it. The 40hz LPF he had assigned to them seemed to do the trick. My buttkicker minis are much stronger tactilly - but don't dig anywhere near as deep. They'd mechanically bottom out audibly if I tried going anywhere near those shake levels down low, but my buttkickers minis are much stronger up high. We put a 80hz lpf on the Crowsons to play with on a few back and forth demo scenes. The buttkickers can feel very artificial if not dialed in right since they are with the higher bass. The crowsons, apparently are more forgiving. Crowsons are much better than the buttkickers, but I actually think both might be enjoyable. Crowsons for 35hz and below and Buttkickers for 35hz and above - that might just be a solid option!
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