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Yes. Your Bluray will decode the signal and output PCM. The NanoAVR is able to stay completely digital by jumping in the middle and also keeps the cost down for how powerful it is. And it is definitely powerful.
Dunno why I continue to use bitstream vs PCM. Must be the reassuring DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD display on my processor. PCM just looks so pedestrian ...

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Dunno why I continue to use bitstream vs PCM. Must be the reassuring DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD display on my processor. PCM just looks so pedestrian ...
Well, there are definitely some trade-offs. What happens if your Bluray only outputs 5.1 but you use 7.1 from your receiver? With the MiniDSP, the 5.1 decoding occurs on the Bluray player and then passes all the way through your preamp and out to your speakers. Soon after I started watching Gravity, which I was looking forward to due to reviews of the sound quality, I noticed the rear speakers weren't working. I paused the movie and noticed that Gravity had only been encoded for 5.1. So then I had to go into the NanoAVR and setup a second preset, one for 5.1 tracks and one for native 7.1. The 5.1 sends the side signals to the rear as well. So now I have to check if the rear speakers are playing and switch to the appropriate preset as needed. Like I said, the NanoAVR isn't perfect but is powerful for the price.
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For starters I am just going to use the inuke dsp and go from there. I have pm'd Carp a few times and I think for me it is the best option for now. I think when all my work is done in my room and I can sit back and relax, I will look into the nanoavr. To be honest I am really interested in the Funk audio amp with the dsp. As Joe was saying, they were running dual amps on a 15amp outlet full force. I am curious if the industry is going to dsp amps.
I also ask a few questions about the inuke with carp. And after watching a few videos about the inukes dsp. I really like that one can do changes on the fly. So that you can hear how it affects the sound.
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Hey guys,

I'm also starting to tweak the bass with the PEQ function on the Inuke. It works great too, so that's another option. Using PEQ in combination with the dynamic EQ gives some great results.

I highly recommend having easy access to changing the EQ in the inuke. I like to use a "dummy" laptop that uses Remote Desktop to control my PC in the other room where my minidsp is plugged into.

Of course, you could also just connect the inuke directly into a laptop. When my projector is on I'll just use a different remote keyboard and mouse to control the inuke.
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Hey guys,

I'm also starting to tweak the bass with the PEQ function on the Inuke. It works great too, so that's another option. Using PEQ in combination with the dynamic EQ gives some great results.

I highly recommend having easy access to changing the EQ in the inuke. I like to use a "dummy" laptop that uses Remote Desktop to control my PC in the other room where my minidsp is plugged into.

Of course, you could also just connect the inuke directly into a laptop. When my projector is on I'll just use a different remote keyboard and mouse to control the inuke.
Carp.. I just put in order for 2 6000dsp at my local dealer. Seems the inukes are very popular. And the sales manager said Behringer will get a handful in by end of the month. Let you know how it goes when I get them..
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Carp.. I just put in order for 2 6000dsp at my local dealer. Seems the inukes are very popular. And the sales manager said Behringer will get a handful in by end of the month. Let you know how it goes when I get them..
Cool looking forward to see how it goes for you.

Are you using the 2nd 6000 for something else or are you going 1 per 215? I assume you could squeeze a bit more out of the 6000's if you just had one speaker per amp, but then on the other hand you would have to adjust 2 dsp's anytime you tweak the bass.
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Hey guys,

I'm also starting to tweak the bass with the PEQ function on the Inuke. It works great too, so that's another option. Using PEQ in combination with the dynamic EQ gives some great results.

I highly recommend having easy access to changing the EQ in the inuke. I like to use a "dummy" laptop that uses Remote Desktop to control my PC in the other room where my minidsp is plugged into.

Of course, you could also just connect the inuke directly into a laptop. When my projector is on I'll just use a different remote keyboard and mouse to control the inuke.
I had some money in my pay pal and I bought a cheapy lap top for the theater. It will only be used for dsp purpose. I wish now I would have gotten a mini.
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Cool looking forward to see how it goes for you.

Are you using the 2nd 6000 for something else or are you going 1 per 215? I assume you could squeeze a bit more out of the 6000's if you just had one speaker per amp, but then on the other hand you would have to adjust 2 dsp's anytime you tweak the bass.
Yea.. I made out a good deal with the sales manager if I bought 2 6000. So 1 will power both L/R. And the the other 6000 for the center using 1 of the channels. So I guess I have to EQ the center on its own.
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I had some money in my pay pal and I bought a cheapy lap top for the theater. It will only be used for dsp purpose. I wish now I would have gotten a mini.
I remember when I bought a 350$ LT back in January just to run REW.. Lol. Now I'm gonna use it as a remote for the inuke..
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Yea.. I made out a good deal with the sales manager if I bought 2 6000. So 1 will power both L/R. And the the other 6000 for the center using 1 of the channels. So I guess I have to EQ the center on its own.

That won't be a big deal though, chances are you will eq the center once and then leave it alone.

Wait.. are you getting 3 215's or 2?
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That won't be a big deal though, chances are you will eq the center once and then leave it alone.

Wait.. are you getting 3 215's or 2?
He is getting the same setup I have. 2-RT's and a RM for the center.

I have thought about throwing three pro amps on each of the 215's myself. Looking at the XLS-2000 right now.
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That won't be a big deal though, chances are you will eq the center once and then leave it alone.

Wait.. are you getting 3 215's or 2?
3..
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I remember when I bought a 350$ LT back in January just to run REW.. Lol. Now I'm gonna use it as a remote for the inuke..
LOL, that is what I paid, $350 NewEgg special. Not bad for the money though. I just use apples for my personal use, most of the software is all for windows, so I needed a windows based computer anyway. Come in handy for tuning the computers on my bikes.
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He is getting the same setup I have. 2-RT's and a RM for the center.

I have thought about throwing three pro amps on each of the 215's myself. Looking at the XLS-2000 right now.
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Ah, ok. Really the whole point of having dsp for the 215's IMO is to tweak the bass so if you are like me you won't be messing too much with the center after you set it once. I don't use any eq on my 212 center.

Any word yet on when you are getting your speakers?
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Ah, ok. Really the whole point of having dsp for the 215's IMO is to tweak the bass so if you are like me you won't be messing too much with the center after you set it once. I don't use any eq on my 212 center.

Any word yet on when you are getting your speakers?
Ok thanks carp.. My speaker is on its way. Should be at my door on the 7th.
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Yeah, you pretty much play with it adding filters one at a time and figuring out if you need a very broad (0.5-2) or more focused (15-50) filter along with how much boost or drop. Make a change and then take a measurement to see how your settings affected the output. There will definitely be a learning curve but after that you'll get quicker and more handy with it.

There are some papers on the MiniDSP site for setting up bass management as well as applying Linkwitz Transforms among others.
It is really nice though when you get the hang of it. The mini dsp interface on the computer is really easy to get the hang of. I have thought about trying the LT process with the biquad filters and such. But my response gets near perfect as I want so I never have. I am a believer in my EQ process of the mini dsp and XT32 team calibration. Not sure if anyone follows my process exactly as I do or not. But IMO it's the best possible process if using a mini dsp unit and Audyssey together. I think I am going to bust out my CSL UMM-6 mic and REW out again soon. I havn't done anything for awhile in attempt to sit back and enjoy the system for awhile. Plus the last Mac issues with REW was providing some serious frustration.
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