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You know I had a Oppo 103D hooked up to my RS45 and it caused a really weird issue, with the Darbee set to on the image would flicker like crazy! and I also was able to have a darbee table in my signal chain and it worked good at first but then after a day or two I started to have handshake issues and then it would flicker too. I haven't really done much research to see if it's happened to anyone else or what the cause was.
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Yea sounds buggy for sure...But would be curious to know if anyone else with a RS45 or similar had/has darbee issues...

BTW I am attending a wedding reception in Anacortes Washington in October. 96.4 miles to Vancouver according to map quest...
I used a stand alone Darbee with an RS45 for a year and a half, no issues. You can't run a long HDMI cable off of the Darbee. Just place the Darbee near the projector, so that the long HDMI cable goes to the Darbee and the HDMI cable coming off the Darbee is short. Mine sat on top of the JVC. It now sits on top of my Sony VW600ES.

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That's your subconscious breaking through....

Your mind has been unable to ignore what these speakers represent. I get it .
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Also, how do you like your Falcon Screen? I'm having a tough time deciding between the scope and 16:9..
I absolutely love my Falcon screen, my only regret was not going with a 2.35:1 scope screen to start with as now I'm considering selling my 16:9 screen to go to a scope screen!...lol

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^^JTR's packing is 2nd to none IME.

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^^JTR's packing is 2nd to none IME.
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I absolutely love my Falcon screen, my only regret was not going with a 2.35:1 scope screen to start with as now I'm considering selling my 16:9 screen to go to a scope screen!…lol
I was going to buy a used 16X9 screen and the more I chatted with some guys around here, the more I wanted a scope screen. I think it was Jonathan that sealed the deal for me to go scope. We both have the Panasonic PTAE8000U. I got the Carada Criterion 112" diag brilliant white. Still sitting in the box, next to my projector. I have to finish painting my room this weekend and then the screen is going up. Yehaw.
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^^JTR's packing is 2nd to none IME.
Sure and Nordstrom has excellent customer service ... now about those JBL's ...
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My next upgrade as well .

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My next upgrade as well .
Have you heard them yet?

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Have you heard them yet?
I haven't, but per the Harman Spin-o-rama plots my current speakers measure very similarly, so I would expect the M2s to sound similar, albeit with much more dynamic range and bass extension.

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I haven't, but per the Harman Spin-o-rama plots my current speakers measure very similarly, so I would expect the M2s to sound similar, albeit with much more dynamic range and bass extension.
Just read some reviews on your Revels. If the reviews are accurate then I think your expectations will be met.

That accurate, crazy good sound that can come out of top notch bookshelves is one of the qualities I lost since I moved to high dynamic, high output speakers. It's the primary thing that has kept me continually speaker searching. Each new speaker I get in the room I convince myself it's either good enough in that regard, or a tradeoff I'm willing to make for the dynamics, output, and power handling. But inevitably that compromise slowly eats away at me like a cancer.

Based on my experience today I can confidently say that the current listening impressions around the Web on the M2 are not hype as far as I'm concerned. I think you'll be rewarded with exactly what you expect after reading and then sitting down in front of them.

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I absolutely love my Falcon screen, my only regret was not going with a 2.35:1 scope screen to start with as now I'm considering selling my 16:9 screen to go to a scope screen!...lol
Thanks for your thoughts... It seems the general consensus is that you cannot go wrong with a scope screen if used for HT. Since I've already decided on the JVC, gaming is pretty much out due to the lag.. so that makes my decision a little easier.
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Just a quick question...Where is the best place to look for DIY AT screen material?
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Just read some reviews on your Revels. If the reviews are accurate then I think your expectations will be met.

That accurate, crazy good sound that can come out of top notch bookshelves is one of the qualities I lost since I moved to high dynamic, high output speakers. It's the primary thing that has kept me continually speaker searching. Each new speaker I get in the room I convince myself it's either good enough in that regard, or a tradeoff I'm willing to make for the dynamics, output, and power handling. But inevitably that compromise slowly eats away at me like a cancer.

Based on my experience today I can confidently say that the current listening impressions around the Web on the M2 are not hype as far as I'm concerned. I think you'll be rewarded with exactly what you expect after reading and then sitting down in front of them.
I'm experiencing that nagging doubt with the small high end bookshelves as well. You wonder what you are missing out on in terms of output and dynamics. That's the appeal of the M2. There are no tradeoffs to speak of.

Very interested to hear more of your impressions.

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I'm experiencing that nagging doubt with the small high end bookshelves as well. You wonder what you are missing out on in terms of output and dynamics. That's the appeal of the M2. There are no tradeoffs to speak of.

Very interested to hear more of your impressions.
Yeah, we're coming at this from different ends. Personally, I could never give up my high output dynamics for the bookshelf sound at lower volumes.
As good as those revels sound, they would be smoking heaps of wood and plastic when my LG amp was done with them.

But that's not to say that those qualities are low priority for me. In fact, they're high priority, just not as high a priority as high output and dynamics. It's the trade off I've been willing to accept for lack of a better option.

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JTR packing! Impressive! Same like when my four S2's was shipped. Two 215RT, one 215RM, and 4 Slanted 8's. From Wisconsin all the way to Hawaii.. Not a single scratch! Mind some of the photos. Don't know why after uploading my vertical pictures AVS photo uploader makes them landscaped.. Oh well more pictures will come after I set them up.
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^^JTR's packing is 2nd to none IME.

Hey, look! I'm a psychic!

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Lol.. Btw, these just arrived yesterday. Right before our Hurricane passing. Perfect timing.
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Congrats! They look awesome!

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^^ Ah yes.. the smell of fresh JTR paint! Congrats Rhed!
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Congrats! They look awesome!
Thanks Gooddoc.. Well I wish I could get a LG to power these beasts. But, I really need to chill for a little while. Or else all hell will break loose with the wifey lol..So, 2 Inuke 6000dsp will have to suffice for now.
So, Ive been reading the past couple pages. Why are you getting rid of your 212's?
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^^ Ah yes.. the smell of fresh JTR paint! Congrats Rhed!
Oh yes, I forgot to mention that about that smell. Like a new cars interior. But the smell of new JTR speakers.
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Awesome Rhed!! Are you firing them up ASAP?
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Awesome Rhed!! Are you firing them up ASAP?
Yea.. Im gonna hook up the LCR's for now after the storm. Straight from my Pioneer SC-09. My amps don't arrive for a couple of weeks. It's already paid in full from my local dealer. I just need two brackets for 2 of the slanted's. The other 2 will be mounted directly to the walls. My DJ friend is gonna let me borrow his converter box for my amps. He said these work great with hardly or none at all noise. http://www.aphex.com/products/228/
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Just a quick question...Where is the best place to look for DIY AT screen material?

Contact snickers1 (Rich) he's the man behind Falcon screens and he'll sell you screen material.
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Thanks Gooddoc.. Well I wish I could get a LG to power these beasts. But, I really need to chill for a little while. Or else all hell will break loose with the wifey lol..So, 2 Inuke 6000dsp will have to suffice for now.
So, Ive been reading the past couple pages. Why are you getting rid of your 212's?
That's Top Secret info, lol.


But there may be a well maintained LG 10000q on the market soon. I'll be sure to tell the guy to contact you if he decides he doesn't need it anymore.

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Interesting...I will try my hardest to find a 55ES owner and a RS45 owner closest to Eugene OR :roll eyes:

I have the Oppo 103D which has the darbee video chip in it. I have read that it does it's best when big 100 inch plus PJ screens are used. It definitely gives a sense of sharpness in it's magic it does. I find I am hanging at about 40% High Definition mode.
I also have the 103D, I have it mated to a Vutec Silverstar 110" screen with an older JVC DLA-RS1, I have my darbee set at like 80 or 85% believe it or not and like it but that's with the older JVC, maybe with a newer projector it would probably be set way too high.
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Thanks for your thoughts... It seems the general consensus is that you cannot go wrong with a scope screen if used for HT. Since I've already decided on the JVC, gaming is pretty much out due to the lag.. so that makes my decision a little easier.
I've read the gaming threads and heard the lag concerns with JVC, but coming from a casual gamer that has an xBox One going back to the NES hooked up to his JVC RS4810, I can't say I've ever had any noticible issues with lag. I highly suggest you hook it up and try it out before you discount it too much, because playing anything from COD Ghosts to the original Final Fantasy on a 100+ inch screen is awesome.
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I've read the gaming threads and heard the lag concerns with JVC, but coming from a casual gamer that has an xBox One going back to the NES hooked up to his JVC RS4810, I can't say I've ever had any noticible issues with lag. I highly suggest you hook it up and try it out before you discount it too much, because playing anything from COD Ghosts to the original Final Fantasy on a 100+ inch screen is awesome.
The lag is really only noticeable on multiplayer games vs other players, not so much just popping in a game and playing it on xbox. You want a real test? try playing rock band or any similar game, it's beyond frustrating. For me it's hockey, those split decisions are needed. 80ms vs 30ms is a pretty big difference in twitch gaming.
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