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I have been wanting to give JTR speakers a try for awhile now. My room is 15'x23' and is not a dedicated HT room. Use of my system is 70/30 movies/music. I currently have 3 Aperion 6T towers across the front and 4 5Bs for surround with a SV PB13 Ultra. I use a Denon 3808ci and have the 100 dollar update and use Audyssey and then use a SPL meter to set the speaker volume. My 3 fronts are powered by a Emotiva XPA 3. Really I think it sounds great as is BUT....I want to purchase 3 JTR speakers across the front. I am debating on which ones the triple 12s or triple 8s. Would I be missing a lot if I went with 3 8s in that size of room? They would need to be on a stand as I would want the speaker at ear level. I enclosed a photo of my front stage just to give you a idea. Thanks for the suggestions.

I would have the Tweeters placed in the center on all three speakers. From looking at your room, I would place the T8 for the middle speaker on a stand horizontally up by the bottom of your TV. Place the right an left speaker on a stand so that the tweeters lined up with the tweeter of the center speaker. This gets the speakers a little farther from the floor and will help with clarity, especially with the dialog.
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Thanks for the all the ideas. It makes my decision easier. I will get the T8s should work well w/ SV PB 13. I would put coaxial in top position. My plasma is ceiling mounted so I could get 3 towers in the same position for a "seamless" front stage. I would do the same with 3 T8s all the same position across the front and would purchase stands from JTR to get them to ear level. Now with T8s and stands I wonder how close of a price diffrence it would be from getting 3 T12s without stands. Thanks for the help.

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T8 stand I believe is about $100 each. T12 and T8 price differential is about $500. So, there is still a big difference in terms of price.
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Just curious if anyone has ever tried the Slanted 8's all then way around as a matched LCR and surround system setup? Trying to think of inovative ideas for smaller rooms with not a lot of floorspace, say in a room 2,200 ft^3?

I know having the LCR channels up that high is not ideal acoustically, but I am looking for options for customers that can't do in-room or inwall's for one reason or another. I could possibly see them being used with a flat panel display that is mounted fairly high or with a projector and AT screen.

Any real world experience with something like this?

Thanks!
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Just curious if anyone has ever tried the Slanted 8's all then way around as a matched LCR and surround system setup? Trying to think of inovative ideas for smaller rooms with not a lot of floorspace, say in a room 2,200 ft^3?

That sounds like a good idea.

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I know having the LCR channels up that high is not ideal acoustically,

Why not? One doesn't want to listen to a concentric/coax driver directly on axis anyway, because the on-axis response is always worse than the off-axis response. So putting the speakers up high is a good way to get the center off-axis, given the uniform radiation pattern of the coax. In my main system, the tweeters of my 12" Tannoy Dual Concentrics are about 55" off the ground, so that they can all be the same same height and orientation with the center clearing a 46" LCD. If they were angled downwards, certainly they could be higher still. I probably will do that in my next room.

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Ok so I finally got my situation settled.

I am selling one quintuple 8 and will run my remaining quintuples as the L and R and a triple 8 as the center.
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Just curious if anyone has ever tried the Slanted 8's all then way around as a matched LCR and surround system setup? Trying to think of inovative ideas for smaller rooms with not a lot of floorspace, say in a room 2,200 ft^3?

I know having the LCR channels up that high is not ideal acoustically, but I am looking for options for customers that can't do in-room or inwall's for one reason or another. I could possibly see them being used with a flat panel display that is mounted fairly high or with a projector and AT screen.

Any real world experience with something like this?

Thanks!

No real world experience, but I have thought this was a good idea ever since someone brought it up on the forum a few months ago, and it is something that I might have tried if I had not already bought Triple 8's. I think that the angle makes them perfect for placing above or below a flat panel TV or fixed projection screen in a room where space is at a premium and you want speakers mounted on the wall along with the TV.


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The new drivers for my Growler subwoofer finally showed up last week after being delayed 6 weeks so I've been non stop filling back orders. Last of them shipped today.

The Slanted 8 is a great little speaker but the Triple 8 is a whole other world. The dedicated midrange greatly improves the sound quality and lowers distortion.
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Yeah, we miss you, Jeff!
Got a question on if the T8 can be used in an inwall application. I am thinking of building a false wall but would like to cut holes for putting the speakers. Wondering if I can do a "perfect fit" (i.e. no spacing in between) or I will need to leave some amount of space either on the side or on top?
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Got a question on if the T8 can be used in an inwall application. I am thinking of building a false wall but would like to cut holes for putting the speakers. Wondering if I can do a "perfect fit" (i.e. no spacing in between) or I will need to leave some amount of space either on the side or on top?

It would work well if you partially recess the speaker in the wall and surround with sound absorption material. Like a THX Baffle Wall. http://extranet.thx.com/cinema/builtTHX/baffle.html That is what I do with my center channel T8.
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Thanks mjg100! I checked your HT room pics. Is pic #29 what you are referring as the baffle wall? What kind of sound absorption material did you use? If I make a larger cut (say 2" around) and just fill those in, will that be good enough?
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Wtffffff???????

Woooow.

Add me to the list to get one Jeff. The PR distorting from time to time was the only complaint I could make about my Cap. Once I get the new one all will be right in the world.

I had a couple JTR fans over here today and they loved it as well.
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Does this mean my speakers are coming soon!?

Seriously - taking two weeks off between jobs starting June 15th... I must have my JTR's by then so I can spend time with my new babies before selling my soul to another small startup venture...

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Thanks mjg100! I checked your HT room pics. Is pic #29 what you are referring as the baffle wall? What kind of sound absorption material did you use? If I make a larger cut (say 2" around) and just fill those in, will that be good enough?

Pic 29 shows my front wall with the 3" thick (black) sound panels on the wall. In that pic you can see the four panels that cover the wall on each side of the JTR T8 center. The speaker is recessed into the wall so that the front baffle of the speaker is flush with the face of the sound panels. If my room was deeper than 13.5' I would have gone with a larger (120") AT screen and placed all three speakers behind the screen in a THX baffle wall. http://extranet.thx.com/cinema/builtTHX/baffle.html I used 5lb density mineral wool for my panels.
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Long time no post....but I am back.

Anyway, just hooked up my iPhone to my stereo and I am surprised how poor some of the songs sound. I know....crap in crap out but some songs seemed way to bright while others were passive and nice sounding. Guess if I want decent sound I need to go back to CD's? I never thought my Triple 12LF's were too bright but with the iPhone hooked up it does not sound nearly as good as I would have hoped.

Anyone else using an iPod/iPhone as an audio source?
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Long time no post....but I am back.

Anyway, just hooked up my iPhone to my stereo and I am surprised how poor some of the songs sound. I know....crap in crap out but some songs seemed way to bright while others were passive and nice sounding. Guess if I want decent sound I need to go back to CD's? I never thought my Triple 12LF's were too bright but with the iPhone hooked up it does not sound nearly as good as I would have hoped.

Anyone else using an iPod/iPhone as an audio source?

what kind of files are you playing?

what are your other components?

iphone to receiver to jtr? i get decent sound from mp3s through my onkyo pr-sc5507, pandora sounds great too.
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Generally it's not the source but the encode. iPhone/Pod isn't great but it's not terrible - I'd be inclined to rip the CD to ALAC and see how that plays on your iPhone.

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Hmm, I'm embarrassed to say I have no idea what type of files the songs are in. Some are imported from iTunes with default settings while all others I imported to iTunes via the original CDs.

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Has anyone who's waiting on a Captivator heard from Jeff? He was supposed to send me tracking numbers last Friday for the two that I've had on order since forever ago, but I haven't heard from him since last Thursday.
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I got a PM yesterday from Jeff - ordered my speakers (12HT's, S8's, and Captivator) about four weeks ago. Sounds like they are shipping out sometime next week.

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Guys, I ordered 3 x T8HT last week and would like to know it is best to have the center standing vertical with coax at the top or horizontal with tweeter at the center? I'm flexible for both setup.
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Guys, I ordered 3 x T8HT last week and would like to know it is best to have the center standing vertical with coax at the top or horizontal with tweeter at the center? I'm flexible for both setup.

I'd go vertical, coax on top.


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rjyap, are you standing those on the ground or you will be using the stands? If you are using the stands, then in the middle will be better match for eye-level, especially with the one that Jeff builds. If you do not use the stand, then coax on top will be better.
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I'll custom built the stands to be around 12" tall so that would bring the top of the coax at ear level. I can't have the speaker higher as my screen (not AT) is 3' from the ground.
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In that case, definitely coax on the top, especially your L&R are going to be vertical as well. This will give you a nicer look, uniform sound output from LCR.
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Thanks for the input. Will get Jeff to mount the coax on the top then.
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BTW, I heard Jeff could also custom build stands for you, so you might also be able to ask him about the pricing on that. Since you are not "hiding" your speakers, maybe you would want to have a matching look.
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Jeff contacted me via e-mail telling me my 3 Triple 8 HT's will be sent this Friday. Really looking forward to getting these. I wonder if I'm the first Australian to own these? I know 2 others that have purchased JTR's but different models.
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My speakers actually are behind a false wall. Anyway, my carpenter can help me out with very cheap price around USD 30 each. The base of the stand would be raise 2" higher with hard foam material like auralex subdude to decoupler the speaker from the floor. The stand would be same dimension in width and depth as the speaker so that it look like floorstander.
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