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We looked it up and think he's okay.


Warranty is 1 year on manufactures defect which includes surround glue. I honestly do think in this case it was a defect. It never bottomed out (his EPX 4000 watt amp bridged can't even do it), and it started making the air flutter sound way before the other one started tapping out by a soft clinking at max excursion. We thought it was a air leak with one of the screws, but after taking the driver out (and stripping out one of his cab holes trying to make it tighter - his doing not mine) we figured out the surround had come loose of the metal frame.


He's had them for less than a year, cause he just bought them early this spring.


Those LMS-5400 drivers are BEASTS in person. The motor structure makes my 50 lb ultimax 18's look like toys. Ridiculously heavy trying to put in the box.
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WTF? Is this a joke?

How are you going to throw something like this out with no backup info or links? What is your physics background? The "biggest" magnet doesn't necessarily mean "strongest" magnet. Is size the issue?
PL, size is always the issue.
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Is this stil the JTR thread or the DIY thread that just went off the rails? Now for some science, the JTR orbit Shifter is one bad a$$ sub!
It's a loose thread and I am glad for it. The other option is one like the Seaton Submersive thread which is not one that keeps me coming back to AVS

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Hi guys. Does anyone know if JTR is gunna be at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest this year? I'm finally able to make it there and I'm getting excited. Is Jeff planning on having a booth there?
Yes, he will be there. I posted this last week. No, he won't have a booth, but a whole room.

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JTR Speakers will be in room 2016 at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest in Denver on October 10-12. Jeff will be bringing the 215RT's, an Orbit Shifter, and a few other speakers


Is anyone interested in a JTR GTG on Friday or Saturday evening?
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Nice thanks jbrown I really hope so. Really itching to hear the 215's if that's what Jeff brings.
Jeff told me yes he is going Rocky mountain a couple of days ago
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Yes, he will be there. I posted this last week. No, he won't have a booth, but a whole room.
Thanks man I thought I remembered seeing that posted around here but couldn't remember. Appreciate it. Really looking forward to RMAF.

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Thanks man I thought I remembered seeing that posted around here but couldn't remember. Appreciate it. Really looking forward to RMAF.
I look forward to meeting you. I think the last time I was in Hays was when I performed at the Kansas State Music Festival.
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I look forward to meeting you. I think the last time I was in Hays was when I performed at the Kansas State Music Festival.
Yes you as well! Oh cool I've heard of that.

I'll be at RMAF all day Friday and Saturday.

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It's a loose thread and I am glad for it. The other option is one like the Seaton Submersive thread which is not one that keeps me coming back to AVS

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J, I love it too. Lots of topics, lots of knowledge and way over the top desire for SPL that would crush mere mortals! Keep calm and JTR on!
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Ah, another Chiver in our midst? Haha. I am basically a one man DIY train at this point so I will continue to derail at whim

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I look forward to meeting you. I think the last time I was in Hays was when I performed at the Kansas State Music Festival.
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Yes you as well! Oh cool I've heard of that.
I'll be at RMAF all day Friday and Saturday.
Didnt expect to see Hays in the thread. I spent 1982-87 partying (I mean studying) as a Fort Hays State Univ undergrad. Spent way way way to much time on the disc golf course at frontier park. Did get to see a fraternity idiot get gored in the a$$ by one of the buffalo, funniest thing ever as him and his buddies were throwing crap at the buffalo and when they ran out climbed the fence to recover so could throw it again. Buffalo are fast...much faster than drunk college kids.

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Ah, another Chiver in our midst? Haha. I am basically a one man DIY train at this point so I will continue to derail at whim
You are derailed...are there any cool sub drivers you dont own (or have owned)? The 24 is a beast but the XXX is no pansy.
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Didnt expect to see Hays in the thread. I spent 1982-87 partying (I mean studying) as a Fort Hays State Univ undergrad. Spent way way way to much time on the disc golf course at frontier park. Did get to see a fraternity idiot get gored in the a$$ by one of the buffalo, funniest thing ever as him and his buddies were throwing crap at the buffalo and when they ran out climbed the fence to recover so could throw it again. Buffalo are fast...much faster than drunk college kids.



You are derailed...are there any cool sub drivers you dont own (or have owned)? The 24 is a beast but the XXX is no pansy.
Nice man! My wife graduated from FHSU. Awe the old disc golf course. Spent plenty of time there too. Buffaloes are still there!

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Hey...I'm a Tiger grad as well. Funny!!
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It's a small world. I actually went there for 2 years myself but never finished.

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Tiger mania strikes the JTR thread.

Now I just need to retire from the navy, buy 7 JTR 210's and 4 orbit shifters and chill. Less than 4 yrs to go...I guess I best start saving.

I should get back to Hays in December. Always good to see the place.
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Only you would hear that. Unless your friends are audio nuts like all of us, my thought is that they thought it was awesome. Early on my 4520 changed settings a couple of times. I remember one time my theater sounded horrible and went in and everything was reset? It has been fine lately.
No, it really sounded like ****e. The right surround dominated and I could barely hear the dialog. It may have been better from the front row I don't think so. I was going to stop the movie and check things out but we had already been through my OPPO BDP-83 having issues causing several false starts. I finally changed players and I was a couple of tall margaritas in so I just let the bad sound go.

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J, I love it too. Lots of topics, lots of knowledge and way over the top desire for SPL that would crush mere mortals! Keep calm and JTR on!
Yes! Good one So I am not sure fit you have, or anyone here, but I am commanding you to play this song as loud as you can stand it. I just bumped the AVR Sub trim up from +3 (where is rests hot post Calibration) to +10 and played at -6. It's a hell of a ride if you haven't. And the beginning of this song is absolutely perfect for demoes IMO. It starts out with the short instrumental and then JUST FREAKING WHHHHAAAMMMM!! Seriously please bump up the sub trim at least 3db, I recommend 6-10 and then report back. Nate can vouch for the awesome sub demo it is I have used this version many times and it's a "safe" youtube track. No mid song spikes or anything weird.


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Now I just need to retire from the navy, buy 7 JTR 210's and 4 orbit shifters and chill. Less than 4 yrs to go...I guess I best start saving.

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No, it really sounded like ****e. The right surround dominated and I could barely hear the dialog. It may have been better from the front row I don't think so. I was going to stop the movie and check things out but we had already been through my OPPO BDP-83 having issues causing several false starts. I finally changed players and I was a couple of tall margaritas in so I just let the bad sound go.
I can attest to the oppo. For what it is, we should never have the problems we do with them. I am stating to think oppo is overrated.
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I can attest to the oppo. For what it is, we should never have the problems we do with them. I am stating to think oppo is overrated.
Thats good to know. I've been looking for a used 103-105D (for the integrated Darby) and no luck so far. I think I'll wait a while and see what comes up.

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I can attest to the oppo. For what it is, we should never have the problems we do with them. I am stating to think oppo is overrated.
Ha! We are both running an Oppo/ Denon 4520 combo. I am having this issue with the 4520 where every time I pause the Oppo and then resume play the sound is gone. I have to power cycle the 4520 to get it back...

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Thats good to know. I've been looking for a used 103-105D (for the integrated Darby) and no luck so far. I think I'll wait a while and see what comes up.
I really like the Darbee processing. It did some really good things on my Panasonic plasma which has a pretty dang good picture. I am looking forward to getting a screen up for this projector to see if it helps there.

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No problems here with my Oppo 103 and Denon 3312

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Maybe I just got lucky but have had my Oppo for a couple of years with zero issues.
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On that DIY deal....would a pair of 4 cubic ft sealed enclosures with drivers like the UXL-18 and a good amp be similar in output
to my dual SubMersives???
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On that DIY deal....would a pair of 4 cubic ft sealed enclosures with drivers like the UXL-18 and a good amp be similar in output
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Yea, thats kinda where I was going with my first question. I too have dual Submersives and was just curious what setup would equal quality and output for the cheapest. I do love them though

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Yea, thats kinda where I was going with my first question. I too have dual Submersives and was just curious what setup would equal quality and output for the cheapest. I do love them though
My question is would they dig as deep?
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After carefully putting t-nuts in all eight subwoofer enclosures tonight, which took a few hours, (drilled 64 holes incrementally larger till I hit 1/4, then painted around the holes, shop vacing the drills mess out of the cabs, then drove in each of the t-nuts with no sub in place, backing out each bolt after the t-nut was tight - - - it occurred to me that some may think there are too big of profit of margins on DIY stuff. (in relation to the recent conversation about a new ID product based on the ultimax driver in this thread) After spending several hours, on multiple days, and not even getting the drivers in there yet...my opinion - no way.

Before tonight, I'd already spent multiple hours; unboxing the cabs, shopping for parts both online and at home depot, putting the feet on the boxes, unboxing and quality checking the eight subs by running 20hz sine waves through them one at a time in free air for a short bit.
I still have stuff the cabs with polyfill, assemble and mount the back plates with ring terminals and spade connectors, cut 10 gauge wire, wire back plates, wire subs, put subs in boxes, bolt subs into box.
So - - - I've still got a lot of time to sink to finish this project - then if you are selling them, you've got to box them back up too and get them shipped out.
All while answering e-mails, questions, sales related and warranty related, having a presence on the forum - etc.


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On that DIY deal....would a pair of 4 cubic ft sealed enclosures with drivers like the UXL-18 and a good amp be similar in output
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I wouldn't be surpised if a single UXL-18 given enough power could roughly equal a single SubM HP. So IMO four would easily equal and surpass dual SubM HP's.
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I've had every oppo thats ever come out, not an issue with any of them.... and they hold their re-sale value extremely well. I just sold my old bdp83 for $370 and my 103D for 40$ off new... awww yaaa!

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My question is would they dig as deep?
Well Joe gets some single digit action. But no most likely not. I do know what I currently have is world class subwoofers that are powerful and extremely accurate. I just think I could double what I have with DIY. As far as digging deep I don't think I care too much about getting to the single digits. Very solid output to 13hz and I don't think I would notice a difference. But...I could always just add a DIY ported sub behind the couch

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On that DIY deal....would a pair of 4 cubic ft sealed enclosures with drivers like the UXL-18 and a good amp be similar in output
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You would out SPL them by ton. Like Jbrown said, likely 1 UXL full powered would be close to a submersive on it's own, maybe not quite but close. 4 would woop up on them from one side to the other. Thats not to say the submersive isn't an awesome sub but DIY will always win in performance for the money.

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