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Me too

Me three Oh, and a 4K projector. This stuff never ends. My biggest concern is the that the new Atmos AVRs and/or pre/pros won't have a chipset that can do HDCP 2.2 (except Onkyo but they made different compromises including dropping Audessey) so what do we do in a couple years when 4K blu ray comes out and forces us all upgrade again to something HDCP 2.2 compliant. It never ends!!!!!
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Me three Oh, and a 4K projector. This stuff never ends. My biggest concern is the that the new Atmos AVRs and/or pre/pros won't have a chipset that can do HDCP 2.2 (except Onkyo but they made different compromises including dropping Audessey) so what do we do in a couple years when 4K blu ray comes out and forces us all upgrade again to something HDCP 2.2 compliant. It never ends!!!!!
It's that damn video stuff, never a stable technology and always needs up-grading to the latest greatest.

Good thing I never upgrade my speakers ...

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It's that damn video stuff, never a stable technology and always needs up-grading to the latest greatest.

Good thing I never upgrade my speakers ...
I hear you brotha. You have had those 215s for over 100 seconds....NEW RECORD!!!!!!!


BTW, here is a little shoplifted info from the Marantz AV8802 thread.

Onkyo uses the Silicon image chipset which supports HDCP 2.2 as well as the HDMI 2.0 feature of 4K60HZ video pass-through, but only with 4:2:0/8bit color(3G), 10.2 Gbps (same as HDMI 1.4).

Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, and Pioneer use the Panasonic chipset which supports the HDMI 2.0 feature of 4K60HZ video pass-through, with 4:4:4/8bit, 4:2:2/12bit and 4:2:0/16bit color (6G),18 Gbps, but not HDCP 2.2.

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I hear you brotha. You have had those 215s for over 100 seconds....NEW RECORD!!!!!!!


BTW, here is a little shoplifted info from the Marantz AV8802 thread.

Onkyo uses the Silicon image chipset which supports HDCP 2.2 as well as the HDMI 2.0 feature of 4K60HZ video pass-through, but only with 4:2:0/8bit color(3G), 10.2 Gbps (same as HDMI 1.4).

Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, and Pioneer use the Panasonic chipset which supports the HDMI 2.0 feature of 4K60HZ video pass-through, with 4:4:4/8bit, 4:2:2/12bit and 4:2:0/16bit color (6G),18 Gbps, but not HDCP 2.2.
Yeah, I'm getting concerned that at this rate, they will leave a permanent imprint in the carpet ...

I'm thinking of giving the Marantz pre a go but the Integra's have been very reliable.

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I'm thinking of giving the Marantz pre a go but the Integra's have been very reliable.
Cannot go wrong with DM. However I am not touching anything till the 2nd generation Atmos. From what I understand the September releases are not going to be preloaded with Atmos, but Atmos capable relying on a software upgrade. Not sure if it all of them. Sounds like vaporware to me I also read the higher end Denon won't be out till the new year?
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Just ordered the xmc-1. I should have it within 4 weeks. Atmos is not a priority for me now, maybe two years from now. Looking forward to seeing what Dirac can do with Impulse response and the blended finite and infinite phase filter approach.
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Just ordered the xmc-1. I should have it within 4 weeks. Atmos is not a priority for me now, maybe two years from now. Looking forward to seeing what Dirac can do with Impulse response and the blended finite and infinite phase filter approach.
I was going to order it, however when I wanted it, they did not have it available. Then I heard they were shipping it with no dirac?
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Just ordered the xmc-1. I should have it within 4 weeks. Atmos is not a priority for me now, maybe two years from now. Looking forward to seeing what Dirac can do with Impulse response and the blended finite and infinite phase filter approach.
Were you on the list and they contacted you or did you just place an order for the first time today?
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Yes Dirac will come as a firmware update via USb flash drive. Mine may have it loaded since it won't be shipped till the end of September. Just have to wait and see. Either way I will have fully balanced outs to my Lg10k plus better distance control than my minidsp for my third OS and 11 band PEQ. Should be fun. What will be my limiting factor? 212's running off the LG on a dedicated 30 amp line or triple orbit shifters? Or maybe just ears and walls caving in! Haha.
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Yes Dirac will come as a firmware update via USb flash drive. Mine may have it loaded since it won't be shipped till the end of September. Just have to wait and see. Either way I will have fully balanced outs to my Lg10k plus better distance control than my minidsp for my third OS and 11 band PEQ. Should be fun. What will be my limiting factor? 212's running off the LG on a dedicated 30 amp line or triple orbit shifters? Or maybe just ears and walls caving in! Haha.
The limiting factor will be your hearing.

I have one of those $1K upgrade coupons from my DMC-1 days. This unit is mildly interesting and might be worth a try while I wait for Atmos to mature.

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Coach I was on the list as of June 2012. Not sure how much a difference that will make. They seem to be in full blown production mode now.
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I have one of those $1K upgrade coupons from my DMC-1 days. This unit is mildly interesting and might be worth a try while I wait for Atmos to mature.
Yeah Rob that's how I am approaching it. With all the room upgrades I did last winter the last thing I want right now is more room work. Plus within two years it will be much clearer about much of the set up best practices and so on. For now I just want SPL like Ozzfest!
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Yeah Rob that's how I am approaching it. With all the room upgrades I did last winter the last thing I want right now is more room work. Plus within two years it will be much clearer about much of the set up best practices and so on. For now I just want SPL like Ozzfest!
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Nate tell us how you really feel....lol
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Coach I was on the list as of June 2012. Not sure how much a difference that will make. They seem to be in full blown production mode now.
That seems more like it then...

They seem to be catching up then. I signed up about 6 months ago, so I am not expecting an email for several months.
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+1000 N8DOGG...I won't buy anything from them either after they lied about putting out a firmware update for known problems with the Sherbourn PT-7030 preamp.
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Took a while, but finally caught up on the thread. And it looks like I missed out on some 215RT for sale...darn...would've been perfect for my home office.
And congrats @carp . I hate you

Btw, almost everyone has Atmos on their AV already...it's called Heights. Take a couple of spare speakers and either hang'em above your seats or aim them 45 degrees at the ceiling. Rerun Audyssey and done.

Majority of the movies I saw in the last 15 months was in a theater equipped with Atmos. Aside from the fantastic Atmos trailer demo, I never walked out thinking about any ceiling sound effect from the movie itself, even though this theater has the best sound (levels, surround, bass) worth buying a movie ticket for...Maybe if they turned off the Ceiling channel, maybe then I'll miss it...who knows.

But knowing myself, I'll pick up the Marantz SR7009 and test Atmos out in home before making up my mind...for now, I'm skeptical Ceilings will add any more benefit than what Heights already kinda-debatably do.
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Took a while, but finally caught up on the thread. And it looks like I missed out on some 215RT for sale...darn...would've been perfect for my home office.
And congrats @carp . I hate you

Btw, almost everyone has Atmos on their AV already...it's called Heights. Take a couple of spare speakers and either hang'em above your seats or aim them 45 degrees at the ceiling. Rerun Audyssey and done.

Majority of the movies I saw in the last 15 months was in a theater equipped with Atmos. Aside from the fantastic Atmos trailer demo, I never walked out thinking about any ceiling sound effect from the movie itself, even though this theater has the best sound (levels, surround, bass) worth buying a movie ticket for...Maybe if they turned off the Ceiling channel, maybe then I'll miss it...who knows.

But knowing myself, I'll pick up the Marantz SR7009 and test Atmos out in home before making up my mind...for now, I'm skeptical Ceilings will add any more benefit than what Heights already kinda-debatably do.
I agree with your commercial Atmos assessment and the comment about Height speakers (I sold my S8 heights ). I think that down the road the Atmos format will be really nice in a HT environment. I think the smaller size of the Home Theater will make the audio object cues of Atmos sound better than in a large commercial Theater and as new films are made to take advantage of Atmos, the experience will improve. Of course, I'm a guy who bought a couple of HD-DVD players before finally caving in and buying a bluray player.
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-10000 I have really good experience with Emotiva so far. For $1200 I am going to have what I consider the best pre pro on the market for my needs. Plus I don't need some little toy receiver with built in T amps. HaHa
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