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What do you guys think?

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Reason for the M2 over the M3, is I was told the M3 is only 800 Watts at 4 ohm.
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A pallet of Bose speakers?
LOL, Bose is what started all this. My wife wanted to really surprise me one Christmas and she bought me an Acoustimass Bose system. It came with a Pioneer AVR and a bunch of cubes and a fart box. That is what I called the sub because it sounded like a fart box. I hooked it up and it sounded horrible. I started reading about it and there was so much negative print about it. I felt terrible telling my wife I wanted to return it. I could tell she was a little sad because she wanted to surprise me, however that little fart box system turned into a home theater full of goodies and she is just as excited as me.

This is actually the post that started it all for me back in 2011. LOL

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I can't remember....is there a 215RM in there as well?
Nah, no 215RM yet. I am going to use my 228 for a CC for the time being. If it works out I will order another 228 or just get the 215 RM later on. I gotta be honest, I am just tapped out from this theater build and the 215's. I am also putting together 2 ported 18" subs to go with these monsters, so that is another chunk of change. In the last month I have bought seating, a screen, carpet and a mini split AC unit, 3 amps, and not to mention the daily trips to home depot. Now the painters tomorrow. I had like 2 dollars left yesterday LOL. I look back on it and I should have just stuck with the Bose system I blame it all on you guys.
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Reason for the M2 over the M3, is I was told the M3 is only 800 Watts at 4 ohm.
So I see it has the trigger and I know that was a requirement which is why (I assume) you didn't go with the Inukes that everyone else seems to like.

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So I see it has the trigger and I know that was a requirement which is why (I assume) you didn't go with the Inukes that everyone else seems to like.
Correct.

otherwise I wouldn't be having this conversation and would have bought them already. They are inexpensive and would have been worth it to try.
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LOL, Bose is what started all this. My wife wanted to really surprise me one Christmas and she bought me an Acoustimass Bose system. It came with a Pioneer AVR and a bunch of cubes and a fart box. That is what I called the sub because it sounded like a fart box. I hooked it up and it sounded horrible. I started reading about it and there was so much negative print about it. I felt terrible telling my wife I wanted to return it. I could tell she was a little sad because she wanted to surprise me, however that little fart box system turned into a home theater full of goodies and she is just as excited as me.

This is actually the post that started it all for me back in 2011. LOL

Bose Acoustimass 6 gift

Nah, no 215RM yet. I am going to use my 228 for a CC for the time being. If it works out I will order another 228 or just get the 215 RM later on. I gotta be honest, I am just tapped out from this theater build and the 215's. I am also putting together 2 ported 18" subs to go with these monsters, so that is another chunk of change. In the last month I have bought seating, a screen, carpet and a mini split AC unit, 3 amps, and not to mention the daily trips to home depot. Now the painters tomorrow. I had like 2 dollars left yesterday LOL. I look back on it and I should have just stuck with the Bose system I blame it all on you guys.
I'll share in some of that blame and I'll be throwing it right back at all you guys as well as soon as I make my decision on 215RT, RM's or 212's. At the moment leaning towards 215RT's with a RM center....in fact I've stacked spare acoustic treatment and pillows on top of my old McIntosh speakers to get them to be 72" tall (they are currently 47" tall) so I could see how that size speaker would look in my theater and I've gotta say....I think they will fit fine. So real soon be prepared for me blaming all you guys for the money I'm about to spend.

Do you have a thread for your 2 ported sub build?

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http://www.d-sonic.net/products/3-channel-amplifiers/


Reason for the M2 over the M3, is I was told the M3 is only 800 Watts at 4 ohm.
This same amp cost me $2275 three years ago and it has been worth every penny. First amp I have owned and not considered replacing. If that day ever comes it will be for another D-Sonic.
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This same amp cost me $2275 three years ago and it has been worth every penny. First amp I have owned and not considered replacing. If that day ever comes it will be for another D-Sonic.
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I felt the same way about my W4S amp. The 215RT's run full range do take some power and IMHO, the more the better hence the LG FP10000Q purchase. It's a one and done amp.
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I'll share in some of that blame and I'll be throwing it right back at all you guys as well as soon as I make my decision on 215RT, RM's or 212's. At the moment leaning towards 215RT's with a RM center....in fact I've stacked spare acoustic treatment and pillows on top of my old McIntosh speakers to get them to be 72" tall (they are currently 47" tall) so I could see how that size speaker would look in my theater and I've gotta say....I think they will fit fine. So real soon be prepared for me blaming all you guys for the money I'm about to spend.

Do you have a thread for your 2 ported sub build?
No, not yet, but I have a pic.
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This same amp cost me $2275 three years ago and it has been worth every penny. First amp I have owned and not considered replacing. If that day ever comes it will be for another D-Sonic.
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I echo this comment completely. I can't tell you how happy I am with my D-sonic. The W4S amps are quite similar, so I am sure they are a real win as well. Don't really know what they have over the D-sonics that warrant the increase in price, but I am dead on happy with my 7 channel D-sonic. It is the m2 version as well, b stock, if you want to call it that, Dennis still builds them out for your order so I wouldn't necessarily call them "B-stock" by any means

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I felt the same way about my W4S amp. The 215RT's run full range do take some power and IMHO, the more the better hence the LG FP10000Q purchase. It's a one and done amp.
Another excellent contender.... Can't go wrong with LG either for darn sure.

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LOL, Bose is what started all this. My wife wanted to really surprise me one Christmas and she bought me an Acoustimass Bose system. It came with a Pioneer AVR and a bunch of cubes and a fart box. That is what I called the sub because it sounded like a fart box. I hooked it up and it sounded horrible. I started reading about it and there was so much negative print about it. I felt terrible telling my wife I wanted to return it. I could tell she was a little sad because she wanted to surprise me, however that little fart box system turned into a home theater full of goodies and she is just as excited as me.

This is actually the post that started it all for me back in 2011. LOL

Bose Acoustimass 6 gift

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I echo this comment completely. I can't tell you how happy I am with my D-sonic. The W4S amps are quite similar, so I am sure they are a real win as well. Don't really know what they have over the D-sonics that warrant the increase in price, but I am dead on happy with my 7 channel D-sonic. It is the m2 version as well, b stock, if you want to call it that, Dennis still builds them out for your order so I wouldn't necessarily call them "B-stock" by any means



Another excellent contender.... Can't go wrong with LG either for darn sure.

like you said until the lotto comes and we have stacks of Powersofts we will have to get by with these options. hehe
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Help!

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I finally tracked down some JTR 12's on the used market. The guy says he does not know the model number (ie HT, LF) but he sent me some pics. However, there are no pics I can find to match them to. The top two woofers have a silver backing behind the bracket and the bottom one does not. Cones look to be a little bluish in color. I'll try and shrink down the pics to get them in here. Any help would be appreciated. I want to move on these soon.

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Hey guys,

I finally tracked down some JTR 12's on the used market. The guy says he does not know the model number (ie HT, LF) but he sent me some pics. However, there are no pics I can find to match them to. The top two woofers have a silver backing behind the bracket and the bottom one does not. Cones look to be a little bluish in color. I'll try and shrink down the pics to get them in here. Any help would be appreciated. I want to move on these soon.

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Looks like an older version of the Triple 12's.

Someone on here had a pair that had the same engraving on the back.
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those are definitely the vented HT version and the cabs looks look like 2008. Another question might be whether or not any XO upgrades were added.

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those are definitely the vented HT version and the cabs looks look like 2008. Another question might be whether or not any XO upgrades were added.
I don't think anything has been done. Story goes the guy used them for less than a month and then he had to move so they weren't used. I just emailed him to find out when he bought or if he ever upgraded the xo's but i'm guessing no.
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I don't think anything has been done. Story goes the guy used them for less than a month and then he had to move so they weren't used. I just emailed him to find out when he bought or if he ever upgraded the xo's but i'm guessing no.
Odds are he did not. The drivers, and XO for the mids have been re-done by Jeff in his models younger than 08-09. He can likely still help you out to update them to the current design if he still has some leftover drivers around. Since they are being discontinued, he might not have anything left in stock but it doesn't hurt to ask. You need to consider the price for him to update them in your decision as the upgrade I would consider worth it, assuming you are getting a killer price on the cabs "as-is" from the seller. The bad news, you would have to ship them to Jeff for the updates, the good news is he could send you boxes to get them in, and likely hook you up on shipping back to you. As I pointed out the, factor all that into your purchase cost. If he is offering those for something like $1,000 for the pair or less, could be worth it, otherwise, I would look to the current JTR offerings.

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I don't think anything has been done. Story goes the guy used them for less than a month and then he had to move so they weren't used. I just emailed him to find out when he bought or if he ever upgraded the xo's but i'm guessing no.
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Odds are he did not. The drivers, and XO for the mids have been re-done by Jeff in his models younger than 08-09. He can likely still help you out to update them to the current design if he still has some leftover drivers around. Since they are being discontinued, he might not have anything left in stock but it doesn't hurt to ask. You need to consider the price for him to update them in your decision as the upgrade I would consider worth it, assuming you are getting a killer price on the cabs "as-is" from the seller. The bad news, you would have to ship them to Jeff for the updates, the good news is he could send you boxes to get them in, and likely hook you up on shipping back to you. As I pointed out the, factor all that into your purchase cost. If he is offering those for something like $1,000 for the pair or less, could be worth it, otherwise, I would look to the current JTR offerings.
I have a pair of 2008 Triple 8 HT's, vented, that I picked up for 600 bucks. I shipped them to Jeff through my discounted freight prices at work on a pallet. They were so protected lol they could probably have been dropped 20ft and been fine. Anyway the shipping cost me 95 bucks to Wisconsin and Jeff did crossover and CD+middle Eminence coaxial driver upgrade. Haven't added it all up but less than a new pair when they were still available. I would contact Jeff and ask if he would do it. The BMS CD is a nicer SQ upgrade! I think those cabinets with the JTR logo are sweet! I sure like it on mine.

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I have the 215's resting in the living room tonight till they move to their new home, but I snapped a quick size photo to the 212's on stands. It is so funny considering that the 212's on the stands were big to me. Now the 212's are like 228's.
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That is ridiculous!!!

You should line them all up for a picture - 228's, 212's and 215's.
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I have the 215's resting in the living room tonight till they move to their new home, but I snapped a quick size photo to the 212's on stands. It is so funny considering that the 212's on the stands were big to me. Now the 212's are like 228's.
Looks good. I know you said you were going to use your 228 as your center, what are your plans for the 212's?

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LOL, Bose is what started all this. My wife wanted to really surprise me one Christmas and she bought me an Acoustimass Bose system. It came with a Pioneer AVR and a bunch of cubes and a fart box. That is what I called the sub because it sounded like a fart box. I hooked it up and it sounded horrible. I started reading about it and there was so much negative print about it. I felt terrible telling my wife I wanted to return it. I could tell she was a little sad because she wanted to surprise me, however that little fart box system turned into a home theater full of goodies and she is just as excited as me.

This is actually the post that started it all for me back in 2011. LOL

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That is ridiculous!!!

You should line them all up for a picture - 228's, 212's and 215's.
Yeah I defiantly will.

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Looks good. I know you said you were going to use your 228 as your center, what are your plans for the 212's?
Leaving them right where the are. If for some reason the 215's don't work out in the theater, well then I am going to switch them for the 212's.
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Damn you moved fast in 2.5 years, from a total system cost of $1k to $3500 per speaker L/R!!!! This site destroys bank accounts!!!
I know that post is embarrassing, I had fallen out of Home Audio for about 14 years and just started getting back into again around that time. I had put all my equipment in storage when I got divorced from my first wife and it sat there for 14 years. To bad it was all out of date when I pulled it out. I can certainly agree, AVS is just a home wrecker. Really cannot blame it all on AVS, but more so the internet combined.
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I know that post is embarrassing, I had fallen out of Home Audio for about 14 years and just started getting back into around that time. I can certainly agree, AVS is just a home wrecker. Really cannot blame it all on AVS, but more so the internet combined.
When I look back at the money I spent on AV in the last year I get a sick feeling in my stomach.
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When I look back at the money I spent on AV in the last year I get a sick feeling in my stomach.
LOL.... I know how you feel, over the last year I've spent right around 30grand building my room and buying my equipment
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Hey @RMK! Per your previous comment, wanted to show you full room response. You were relatively correct with your assumption I can't get dead flat across all seats, but I feel like this is pretty good between a single centered front seat (Blue), a front right seat next to the right wall (Black) and two rear seats relatively centered.... Poke some holes if you want, but I like what I see. I get a little extra dB for being in the dead middle and I actually like it that way, as the other usual suspects can't take as much.

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