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So I placed an order from D-Sonic for their M3-4500-3


3 x 2000 Watts @ 4 Ohm


So hopefully, this will solve my power issue for my 3 JTR 215RT's


And then RMK, I will be trying them as LFE.
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Congratulations That's Awesome!!!


I have been hoping someone would try that combination with the 215RT. Looking forward to your impressions.


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So I placed an order from D-Sonic for their M3-4500-3


3 x 2000 Watts @ 4 Ohm


So hopefully, this will solve my power issue for my 3 JTR 215RT's


And then RMK, I will be trying them as LFE.
That D-sonic is a very nice amp.

I have a forum member (JF56) coming over for a demo this weekend. He has N-212's and an OS (he is considering another ). It will be interesting to get his take on the 215RT's bass wise and overall vs his excellent setup. I'll encourage him to post impressions here.
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That D-sonic is a very nice amp.

I have a forum member (JF56) coming over for a demo this weekend. He has N-212's and an OS (he is considering another ). It will be interesting to get his take on the 215RT's bass wise and overall vs his excellent setup. I'll encourage him to post impressions here.
Looks like he has something close to your prior room. Will be cool to hear his impressions.
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So I placed an order from D-Sonic for their M3-4500-3


3 x 2000 Watts @ 4 Ohm


So hopefully, this will solve my power issue for my 3 JTR 215RT's


And then RMK, I will be trying them as LFE.
Congrats man, be ready to need no upgrade, for any main, for a LONG time coming. That thing should allow the 215 to just absolutely cruise, even with some LFE action mixed in
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Hey...

It meet the requirement of a 12 Volt connection and more power.

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It meet the requirement of a 12 Volt connection and more power.

& huge bonus... Standard Binding posts!
All good things, but the monoblock topography, cool running nature, and overall quality of the work is second to none IMO Best amp I have ever owned, period.
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So... I did good? lol. You have a M2 or M3 and what wattage?
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@SOWK , I asked you a couple times but you never got back? I don't think I have ever heard a review from you. How are the 215's treating you. How are the SubM's paring with the 215's? Do you think they do well with movies vs the Vandersteen's?
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Reefdvr27 - I want to give them a fair trial before I go into a lot of detail.

I like them a lot, but I've been running into a lot of little issue I am trying to solve first.

The Submersives pair very well actually. Better then the Vandersteen / Submersive mix.

So far I've really only watched three movies with them and all three times I haven't really thought about the audio...

I know that sounds like I didn't care, but it's actually a good thing. I am a critic by default, and if I could just enjoy without picking out any negative issues that's a big win in my book.

With the vandersteen's at reference, they could get muddy at times, and hard to hear center channel dialog. With the JTR's, I'm not having these issues. So its exactly what I was trying to go for.

The vandersteens image better and can product a more realistic sound stage, but lack the dynamics and head room the JTR's have.

and once I find out if my tweeter crackling issue when running reference and full range with a intense scene like WOTW's is fixed with the new AMP, I will try the LFE into them as well. I don't think you can go wrong with the JTR 215RT's.
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Reefdvr27 - I want to give them a fair trial before I go into a lot of detail.

I like them a lot, but I've been running into a lot of little issue I am trying to solve first.
Very good. Can you share the issues? I will be setting up and tuning all weekend and can use a heads up. Good the subs are pairing well.

Great amp by the way. I am using an Inuke6000dsp to start. Eventually I am going to switch to a mini dsp and a Dsonic amp or the Funk audio amp has my attention.

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Hey Jeff,

I have to start thinking about retirement and what my hobby will be....I've decided I want to do sound production for bar bands in and around my area and was thinking of using a JTR setup.

I was thinking of using 2-Orbit shifters per side and 2-Noesis 3TX per side as well. Likely pushing the bottoms with 2-Itech HD 9000 and 2- Itech HD 5000 for the tops. Of course the full setup is dependent by the venue.

Do you think these amps are a good pairing or would you recommend something else for live mixing? Was considering the Berhinger X32 as my mixer. How large of a venue do you think a setup like this could fill?

Any insight would be great....I'm about a year away from building the system up but want to start researching now.

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Hey Jeff,

I have to start thinking about retirement and what my hobby will be....I've decided I want to do sound production for bar bands in and around my area and was thinking of using a JTR setup.

I was thinking of using 2-Orbit shifters per side and 2-Noesis 3TX per side as well. Likely pushing the bottoms with 2-Itech HD 9000 and 2- Itech HD 5000 for the tops. Of course the full setup is dependent by the venue.

Do you think these amps are a good pairing or would you recommend something else for live mixing? Was considering the Berhinger X32 as my mixer. How large of a venue do you think a setup like this could fill?

Any insight would be great....I'm about a year away from building the system up but want to start researching now.

If my business plan fails....I'll have some nice gear for my theater room!
If you are aiming your question at Jeff P. (owner of JTR), I don't think he reads this thread that much. You might want to try calling him directly or e-mailing him (contact info on the official JTR site)...I would suggest calling based on historical hit rates
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Reefdvr27 - I want to give them a fair trial before I go into a lot of detail.

I like them a lot, but I've been running into a lot of little issue I am trying to solve first.

The Submersives pair very well actually. Better then the Vandersteen / Submersive mix.

So far I've really only watched three movies with them and all three times I haven't really thought about the audio...

I know that sounds like I didn't care, but it's actually a good thing. I am a critic by default, and if I could just enjoy without picking out any negative issues that's a big win in my book.

With the vandersteen's at reference, they could get muddy at times, and hard to hear center channel dialog. With the JTR's, I'm not having these issues. So its exactly what I was trying to go for.

The vandersteens image better and can product a more realistic sound stage, but lack the dynamics and head room the JTR's have.

and once I find out if my tweeter crackling issue when running reference and full range with a intense scene like WOTW's is fixed with the new AMP, I will try the LFE into them as well. I don't think you can go wrong with the JTR 215RT's.
I have never heard any of the Vandersteen's. In return I have never heard a bad thing about them. Supposedly very good speakers. I would have loved to have heard your original set up. One day I will get a shot at them. I also want to hear a theater with Quested speakers. I have seen some threads lately of some AVS guys switching up to Quested. I think they come with a hefty price tag, but I would like to hear what is so good about them.
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If you are aiming your question at Jeff P. (owner of JTR), I don't think he reads this thread that much. You might want to try calling him directly or e-mailing him (contact info on the official JTR site)...I would suggest calling based on historical hit rates
I called him a couple hours ago ready to place an order but it went to voicemail. Hopefully he calls back sooner than his e-mail replies.

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m2-2500. 3x1050 watts up front, and 4x500 watts for surrounds.
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and once I find out if my tweeter crackling issue when running reference and full range with a intense scene like WOTW's is fixed with the new AMP, I will try the LFE into them as well. I don't think you can go wrong with the JTR 215RT's.
I had that once, and it turned out that my DSP EQ was clipping. I had to do more bass boost with the sub volume knob, and less with DSP. It was only apparent in a couple ways.


The more obvious one was occasional tweeter crackling. The less obvious one was that my bass wasn't getting louder when I tried to crank it up. You'd think that would have been more obvious, but thanks to mind tricks, it took me a couple hours to notice that the clip light was blinking.
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If you are aiming your question at Jeff P. (owner of JTR), I don't think he reads this thread that much. You might want to try calling him directly or e-mailing him (contact info on the official JTR site)...I would suggest calling based on historical hit rates
yea, I figure he doesn't much but I'm not in a huge hurry....I'm about a year away from getting started, just hoping he might come across it and leave a little info.

Thanks though, appreciate the heads up.
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I'm officially a JTR owner now. Picked up my 228s and Captivator's this evening, and got them safely home and downstairs. Now I just have the build the theater that will use them.
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ChldsPlay, purchased my JTR gear + Crown XLS-5000 amp + Mic2200 + all the signal cables and speakon cables he needs for his upcoming home theater build. It's a fantastic start for a home theater system, and I've offered to help him set it all up when he gets his room finished. I've mixed emotions about the whole deal - I think this is my biggest monetary sale ever, but I'm going to keep trying some new stuff in this hobby.


Kevin, those caps you bought aren't JTR Captivator 2400s, they are passive JTR Captivator Pros. They have the orbit shifter driver in them since they are the 2011 models - to my understanding they are a little bit beefier setup than the current 2400 Captivator. Jeff used to pair the older captivators with 4,000 watt amps when you bought the active version - the same 4,000 watt speakerpower amp the orbit shifter uses. Jeff uses a bit different driver these days and pairs them with a 2400 watt speakerpower amp if you buy the active.


Next course? JTR 210RT perhaps? I'm still thinking through next course. I'll play with the eight sealed subs for a while, maybe keep them, maybe sell them, maybe build or buy some horn subwoofers to replace them. I've got the nine Mackie C200 to tide me over with the eight sealed Ultimax until the decision is made. Feels odd to be without JTR gear already.

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ChldsPlay, purchased my JTR gear + Crown XLS-5000 amp + Mic2200 + all the signal cables and speakon cables he needs for his upcoming home theater build. It's a fantastic start for a home theater system, and I've offered to help him set it all up when he gets his room finished. I've mixed emotions about the whole deal - I think this is my biggest monetary sale ever, but I'm going to keep trying some new stuff in this hobby.


Kevin, those caps you bought aren't JTR Captivator 2400s, they are passive JTR Captivator Pros. They have the orbit shifter driver in them since they are the 2011 models - to my understanding they are a little bit beefier setup than the current 2400 Captivator. Jeff used to pair the older captivators with 4,000 watt amps when you bought the active version - the same 4,000 watt speakerpower amp the orbit shifter uses. Jeff uses a bit different driver these days and pairs them with a 2400 watt speakerpower amp if you buy the active.


Next course? JTR 210RT perhaps? I'm still thinking through next course. I'll play with the eight sealed subs for a while, maybe keep them, maybe sell them, maybe build or buy some horn subwoofers to replace them. I've got the nine Mackie C200 to tide me over with the eight sealed Ultimax until the decision is made. Feels odd to be without JTR gear already.
I saw your for sale add but didn't realize you were selling the JTR gear, what happened? Didn't you build cutouts into your wall to put the 228's behind an AT screen?
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For the most part the Atmos demo was impressive at CEDIA. Some of the clips it was an amazing difference. Other clips were less impressive and hard to distinguish between standard 7.1 and Atmos. Am I upgrading right away? No, buy perhaps some day.
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Nothing happened, I didn't even really have reason to sell. ChldsPlay recently demoed my theater, what about a month ago? Liked what he heard and offered to buy my caps if I ended up selling them for the eight sealed. In talking it over further he was interested in everything JTR to help him have a base for his new theater space. With the sale I can pay off a couple thousand in CC debt, and still have a couple thousand to bank for whatever's next. Yeah I have the cutouts in my baffle wall to match the 228HT formfactor - but it's behind an AT screen so it doesn't really matter. Lots of options fit in that space. The 228HT is seriously one of the best speakers I've ever heard anywhere - top shelf and everyone knows I love the JTR Captivators and think they are an amazing sub - so trust me it is no slight against JTR. I still will absolutely recommend their company and I still think very highly of Jeff's products. Perhaps it was a bad decision, but it was made and I think it worked out well for both parties at current junctions. After a couple experiences at forum member d_c's home theater space, I'm considering at some point selling all the sealed subs, building three or four jgallarhorns, and matching them with a front soundstage of 210RT crossed over at 50 or 60hz. Everything could be behind the AT screen then - clean front wall could be pretty cool. But those changes would be sometime away - even though the seed is definitely planted.

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Nothing happened, I didn't even really have reason to sell. ChldsPlay recently demoed my theater, what about a month ago? Liked what he heard and offered to buy my caps if I ended up selling them for the eight sealed. In talking it over further he was interested in everything JTR to help him have a base for his new theater space. With the sale I can pay off a couple thousand in CC debt, and still have a couple thousand to bank for whatever's next. Yeah I have the cutouts in my baffle wall to match the 228HT formfactor - but it's behind an AT screen so it doesn't really matter. Lots of options fit in that space. The 228HT is seriously one of the best speakers I've ever heard anywhere - top shelf and everyone knows I love the JTR Captivators and think they are an amazing sub - so trust me it is no slight against JTR. I still will absolutely recommend their company and I still think very highly of Jeff's products. Perhaps it was a bad decision, but it was made and I think it worked out well for both parties at current junctions. After a couple experiences at forum member d_c's home theater space, I'm considering at some point selling all the sealed subs, building three or four jgallarhorns, and matching them with a front soundstage of 210RT crossed over at 50 or 60hz. Everything could be behind the AT screen then - clean front wall could be pretty cool. But those changes would be sometime away - even though the seed is definitely planted.
Good luck on your HT journey and we certainly hope you keep posting on this JTR thread. Your knowledge and passion were/are a great asset to this forum.
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