Originally Posted by popalock
Lol...it's all good guys.
I can't wait to get a chance to hear the M2. No question they are world class.
I haven't had a chance to look into what you posted. Can you provide a source, please. What you described (or quoted) sounds like JBL processing (in room). The M2's are passive monitors, correct? Did you purchase a (the?) JBL processing unit to go with the M2's?
When you demoed the M2's was it in 2 channel pure direct? Or was their any other processing in the mix that you were aware of?
To take a speaker and throw it into any room, then say that it can overcome the acoustical challnges presented by that unique space sounds...a bit...unrealistic. I mean, there are literally millions of variables to overcome from an acoustical standpoint.
So yes, I am a skeptic. I blame all the other extreme right wing #AVSObjectivists
for jading me.
Actually, rooms really aren't the major problem. Right? I mean we talk all day in them without ever thinking we need to EQ them. And if someone were to play an instrument in a room we would think it sounds beautiful, no? I know I've never once thought anything but how beautiful the piano sounds in my room when my daughter plays. Or how awesome my friends guitar sounds in the room when he plays. No EQ or treatments necessary.
Sure, I've no doubt that treating the room acoustically could improve all of it, but they're really good on their own. Way better than what happens when I put typical speakers in there. Why is that? It's not the room, but the speaker that is the problem!! It sucks at being a sound source and creates it's own problems.
That Linear Spatial Reference design paradigm that I quoted earlier is all about fixing that problem. It's a Floyd/Toole approach of integrating the room response, or total sound power, into the speaker design and using spatial response measurements and psychoacoustic principles to treat the room and the speaker as a system. Good source, less room problem. The M2 simply represents the technical prowess to showcase the merits of their approach. So this whole "Master Reference Monitor" thing is really as much about proving a design philosophy for JBL as it is about making a great speaker.
And when you hear it you know right away they got it right. It's not a gimmick or BS acronym or slogan. It's solid engineering and a lot of research coming together to solve real problems.
Bass problems below Shroeder are not addressable with this LSR approach though, so acoustic treatments for room modal issues are still as necessary as they've always been.
As to processing, the M2's need either the Crown Itech 5000HD amps with the integrated London Soundweb Processing built in, or a separate BSS processor needs to be purchased. The processor stores the active filters and also integrates with the JBL Audio Architect software via the network to allow for measuring and EQ capability via PC. So the active filters and EQ curves are completely user modifiable for room tuning and multiple curves can be stored and utilized. It's like a miniDSP.
Edit: no processing on demo. Just pure direct through pro gear. There was no AVR.