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post #25471 of 30542 Old 11-10-2014, 07:33 PM
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There certainly is. I have two and while it would be a bear to ship them, I am not opposed to offering them up if you want em. If not, I could send you drivers that you could build your own box out for. The finished cabs are the 4645b's. I used them very briefly as MBM's and for two 18's they are downright impressive for sure. I have kinda been wanting to drag them back out and play around with them some more, but alas, just haven't had the time for all of that...
Where are you located? I think we may have talked about this before when I was considering this a while back.
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Have you tried installing a Creative audio product on your system that supports ASIO?


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Those would be awesome!

I think they would be too large though.
Yes.. Big.. But not as big as the OS. Besides, it's a horn sub. And that will certainly give a chest pounding, mid bass slam. It can be laid down on its side too. There's some videos on youtube on the Growlers. Lots of positives. Also some talks of them in the JTR forums pro side. Just trying to help out bro. And I'm sure Jeff always remembers a previous customer. Especially if buying more then one.. 😉
But bro, I imagine dual Growlers with your 4 Triaxes. Just plain sick man!!

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Was this ported or sealed? Did you build the boxes or were they a flatpack?
Sealed and used as stands for my 212's :

A pic of the boxes, they are on top.


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I also just found this pic lol. Just for scale, thats a 72" TV and those are studio 60's v2 along with my first giant ported subs I built.. lol I think this was about 5-6 years ago


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Lance, here is what I was talking about. This is the message I get every time I open up the Dirac Calibration Tool:

Looks like it could be something funky with your Creative driver. You might try uninstalling the driver, and using the Microsoft driver.
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I created a couple different filters no problem. It's just that they're not applied to any audio passing through my computer. I've selected DiDirac as my default soundcard and nothing happens to the audio. I've selected every output in the Dirac processor but no go.
Just in case it helps, I was able to select my video card's HDMI output, which worked great. You might try updating your video driver.
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That's the great part. Once you get the room measured adding different target curves is soooo fast. Then you can load up to four different target curves in the DIracc control box and instantly switch back and forth between them or Dirac off. Makes for great quick change comparisons.


Just make sure you run through the full measurement procedure a couple of times and save the projects separately. I go better impulse response improvements with a larger volume of measurement space (nine is the total number). Side to side, forward and back slightly and up and down slightly too.


My two week trial is over and this sucks. I would purchase it today but my pre pro is supposed to be implemented with it in Dec so I need to wait. This sucks!!!


Good luck and let us know how it goes. Oh yeah, also depending on how much boost you may add with a given target curve (I think Dirac maxes at +10dB) you need to make sure the clip light isn't coming on during music playback. It is an input clip indicator so MV does not factor in but filter boosting does. In default (-8dB) I have never seen the clip light come on though.
That's sort of what happened to me. I tried the trial 6 months ago. I was debating whether to wait for the XMC-1, which was due out any day, but I couldn't live without Dirac when the trial ran out. A little different when you already have the XMC-1, though.
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Just in case it helps, I was able to select my video card's HDMI output, which worked great. You might try updating your video driver.
Yea, I might try the update thing. But to be honest, I think I'm just going to uninstall and forget about anything windows coming anywhere near my HT unless it is absolutely bulletproof. This is the reason that firmware is best for HT, not software. But that's my own personal take, YMMV.
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Yea, I might try the update thing. But to be honest, I think I'm just going to uninstall and forget about anything windows coming anywhere near my HT unless it is absolutely bulletproof. This is the reason that firmware is best for HT, not software. But that's my own personal take, YMMV.
If you're annoyed by fighting PC flakiness and quirks, you'll probably be annoyed by Dirac Live. Their driver does cause some issues from time to time. I'd rather have it in a pre-pro, but I'm waiting for a reasonably priced one with Atmos. The Dirac Live trial might still be worth experimenting with to get a taste of what Dirac can do.

JRiver is the main thing that keeps me tied to a PC. No going back for me.

BTW, when using a PC for audio out, make sure to set all the speakers to large/full range on all audio outputs, in order to disable Windows bass management, which defaults on.
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Lot of guys here refer to "S8"....which "S8" are you referring to? The HT, LP or Slanted or are they essentially identical in performance? My plan is to purchase 4 "Slanted 8" real soon because I think they fit my room perfectly with the 30 degree angle but if one is better than the other.....well maybe I'll have to think about it more.
Nabs, I guess they are basically the same. I asked Jeff this before I made my purchase and he basically said that.

As surrounds, these are little gems.
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BTW, when using a PC for audio out, make sure to set all the speakers to large/full range on all audio outputs, in order to disable Windows bass management, which defaults on.
That only applies when using a Direct Sound audio driver. When using a hardware direct method like ASIO or WASAPI, the settings in the Control Panel are completely bypassed. I can't remember the last time I saw anyone using Direct Sound.
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If you're annoyed by fighting PC flakiness and quirks, you'll probably be annoyed by Dirac Live. Their driver does cause some issues from time to time. I'd rather have it in a pre-pro, but I'm waiting for a reasonably priced one with Atmos. The Dirac Live trial might still be worth experimenting with to get a taste of what Dirac can do.

JRiver is the main thing that keeps me tied to a PC. No going back for me.

BTW, when using a PC for audio out, make sure to set all the speakers to large/full range on all audio outputs, in order to disable Windows bass management, which defaults on.
Just curious, what is it you use JRiver for?
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Good...DD and rochen are present. Any comments or experience comparing Dirac Live to Audiolense? I was at one point thinking of setting up Jriver with Aidiolense but may upgrade my NanoAVR to the Dirac version.
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Where are you located? I think we may have talked about this before when I was considering this a while back.
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I finally got around to watching a 3D movie on this BenQ W7000. I can see why guys who are serious videophiles stack PJ's and use this one for 3D viewing. Simply amazing. Grabbed Life of Pi in 3D. If the black levels were better I could not ask for more for me personally from a picture. With the Oppo Darbee it puts out a great picture. But I can't complain for the deal I got Since calibrating I watched that movie on -8 to -10 MV. The JTR's just cruise the soundtrack like it's a pro in a HS football game. With ease! I just love distortion free life!

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I havn't been following like I used to so I have missed much of the Dirac mini dsp discussion. Do any of you think I could make some good improvements with getting one of these units? I currently run just an Open DRC for my two Submersives in partnership with XT32. I know several of you have gone away from Audyssey with your personal opinions but I like what it does in partnership with my mini dsp. I am just wondering if the surround sound "team effort" and overall SQ would really be that much better. I mean for what I have I think I have it dialed in pretty dang good. I am running the bass trims where XT 32 sets them and just go to PGM 2 on the Submersives (+3db bump from like 45hz on down) and a mild low shelf filter via mini dsp. I think with a 4-5db gain. I have thought about turning the low shelf down to 3db gain. EOT beginning was just plain stupid. I seriously couldn't go past -40 MV!!! Not sure why so hot? So I have thought about leaving shelf filter off and just giving a 3db sub trim bump.

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I finally got around to watching a 3D movie on this BenQ W7000. I can see why guys who are serious videophiles stack PJ's and use this one for 3D viewing. Simply amazing. Grabbed Life of Pi in 3D. If the black levels were better I could not ask for more for me personally from a picture. With the Oppo Darbee it puts out a great picture. But I can't complain for the deal I got Since calibrating I watched that movie on -8 to -10 MV. The JTR's just cruise the soundtrack like it's a pro in a HS football game. With ease! I just love distortion free life!
I've got a friend who has stacked W7000's. I've seen a few movies in his theater and it's pretty awesome. It's a great projector.

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I havn't been following like I used to so I have missed much of the Dirac mini dsp discussion. Do any of you think I could make some good improvements with getting one of these units? I currently run just an Open DRC for my two Submersives in partnership with XT32. I know several of you have gone away from Audyssey with your personal opinions but I like what it does in partnership with my mini dsp. I am just wondering if the surround sound "team effort" and overall SQ would really be that much better. I mean for what I have I think I have it dialed in pretty dang good. I am running the bass trims where XT 32 sets them and just go to PGM 2 on the Submersives (+3db bump from like 45hz on down) and a mild low shelf filter via mini dsp. I think with a 4-5db gain. I have thought about turning the low shelf down to 3db gain. EOT beginning was just plain stupid. I seriously couldn't go past -40 MV!!! Not sure why so hot? So I have thought about leaving shelf filter off and just giving a 3db sub trim bump.
I just traded a guy one for a custom mechanical keyboard I had made that I'm not using. Should be here early next week, I'm gonna try it out! I've also found out a guy at my work has a XMC-1, so we'll give that a try is Dirac ever actually comes out for it lol.
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Lot of guys here refer to "S8"....which "S8" are you referring to? The HT, LP or Slanted or are they essentially identical in performance? My plan is to purchase 4 "Slanted 8" real soon because I think they fit my room perfectly with the 30 degree angle but if one is better than the other.....well maybe I'll have to think about it more.
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I see Chris, you either

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Either way, sounds like exciting times in the boating world
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Good...DD and rochen are present. Any comments or experience comparing Dirac Live to Audiolense? I was at one point thinking of setting up Jriver with Aidiolense but may upgrade my NanoAVR to the Dirac version.
I have used Audiolense for a couple years now. I used the Dirac demo at RMAF on the 215HT's. However, the filters wouldn't load correctly and I didn't hear back from customer service until after the weekend. So, I haven't been able to actually compare filters for sound quality.

Installation: Both are easy to install. Dirac is easier to license and get the license code installed.

Basic Setup: Dirac is easier to get up and running and is fairly intuitive. For a basic setup, Audiolense is almost as easy. Dirac can only handle 8 channels.

Advanced Setup: Dirac has no advanced setup and no routing options. With Audiolense, your options are limited by your imagination.

Crossovers and Bass Management: Dirac has no crossovers or bass management. This is an important element of room correction since the speaker/subwoofer integration is so crucial to getting good sound. Audiolense has extremely flexible crossovers and bass management with phase correction.

Measurement filtering: Dirac uses a fixed impulse response window. Audiolense lets you change the response window to exclude most reflected sound and only make corrections primarily to the direct sound.

Target Creation: Both let you easily create targets. Dirac's are for the entire system - all speakers get the same target. Audiolense gives you the option of speaker dependent targets. For example, you might need a different target for surrounds vs mains.

Ability to route all computer audio through filters: Dirac has its own "soundcard" that lets you route all PC audio through the filters for playback. JRiver also has its own "soundcard" that routes everything through JRiver's DSP. If you load the Audiolense filters in JRiver, you can use them for gaming, etc. However, you need to create low latency filters for PC audio so that the lip sync isn't off.
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212HTs up front and move my T12's to surrounds.
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Thanks DesertDome! Great comparison. Have you heard any feedback on dlbeck's Solid State Alpha system and is it good enough compared to your Lynx Aurora?
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I've been getting a good amount of hiss with my 212HT's and an inuke 6000dsp and I'm wondering what other amps people are using without said hiss. I had an emotiva XPR-5 running them with no hiss, but I was hoping for more headroom and dsp if possible to try and boost mid bass or even add MBM's which would be significantly easier with the inuke dsp. Does anyone know if the 3000dsp has a hiss?
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I've been getting a good amount of hiss with my 212HT's and an inuke 6000dsp and I'm wondering what other amps people are using without said hiss. I had an emotiva XPR-5 running them with no hiss, but I was hoping for more headroom and dsp if possible to try and boost mid bass or even add MBM's which would be significantly easier with the inuke dsp. Does anyone know if the 3000dsp has a hiss?
I just wrote this in another thread of yours, but try shutting off the PEQ on the Inuke and see if that helps. Make sure it is on bypass. I had horrible hiss on my 215's with the my 6000dsp and I found it was the PEQ doing it. I shut it off and the hiss was gone.
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I've been getting a good amount of hiss with my 212HT's and an inuke 6000dsp and I'm wondering what other amps people are using without said hiss. I had an emotiva XPR-5 running them with no hiss, but I was hoping for more headroom and dsp if possible to try and boost mid bass or even add MBM's which would be significantly easier with the inuke dsp. Does anyone know if the 3000dsp has a hiss?
Hmm... I have hiss. But I hear if I put my ear up to the CD about 8" away. And I'm using PEQ and DEQ. 12000dsp for 215RT. And 6000dsp for the 215RM. But then again, I don't know if it's because each of those amps are on their own curcuit that's making it silent.
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