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I read these posts and my brain thinks we're somehow still talking about JTR.
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I read these posts and my brain thinks we're somehow still talking about JTR.
To continue the tangential nature of the thread ... two weeks ago I installed the Marantz AV7702 pre after selling my Integra DHC-80.3. I also had a NIB Emotiva XMC-1 waiting in the wings but due to the Marantz early arrival it became the first replacement contender. I was interested in the Marantz due to another forum member who had gone from Integra to Marantz and he was adamant that the Marantz sounded much better. I got a good deal on the Marantz and a reasonable price for the Integra so it seemed like a worthwhile move. The Emotiva was an impulse buy (is there any other kind ) based upon an interest in Dirac which of course isn't as yet available.

I setup the Marantz and had no issues doing so. It automatically connected to my router and I did an upgrade before the first setup. I attempted to run Audyssey and immediately had to increase the gain on my LG amp that powers the 215RT's to get any bass out of the LFE channels. Once that was done, I ran an 8 position Audyssey and positioned the mic as suggested by the on screen display. Audyssey correctly set my 215's as full range and put the levels at the max cut (-12) probably due to the amp gain increase. As usual, the T8LP surrounds were set to 80Hz and the Slanted 8 surround backs were set at 60hz due to their dual boundary wall/ceiling placement. I changed the SB's to 80hz and ran through some movie and music demos. The bass seemed neutered and so I shut Audyssey down and ran the same demo material again and the bass was back strong as ever. I haven't run any OmniMic graphs yet but will do so over the holiday weekend. Another setup of Audyssey yielded the same results.

It is difficult to say if there is a significant difference between the Integra and the Marantz but it does sound great so I am assuming that they are at least equal. I am tempted to say it sounds better but I know better . We watched the latest X-Men film the other night and the surround effects were really good. I also found myself listening through the end credits as the musical score sounded so good it gave me the chills. I am on the side of "these products sound more alike than different" group and I'm sure DB test would prove that point. My preference for un EQ'd sound continues and Audyssey seems like a useless tool for my situation where I have a treated room and DSP capability via my Rane processor.

During the Marantz trial I decided to put the Emotiva up on Ebay and I received an offer I couldn't refuse and so it is was sold before I had a chance to give it a go. Honestly, I was concerned about all of the missed deadlines and bug issues with the Emo and along with my desire to install Atmos speakers, I took the safer course with the Marantz. So Atmos is the next challenge and I'm waiting impatiently for Jeff to offer up something.

So it goes.

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the only real agenda will be fun. Lots of movie clips and music demos and maybe followed by a full movie. In fact it will likely turn into a full blown party as the night goes on.

I doubt we will be switching equipment for comparisons but I will be able to demonstrate Dirac and its ability to deliver target FR curves, and improvements on impulse response vs std PEQ. Also anyone interested in hearing the capability of 3OS's, 212HT's running of Lab Gruppen 10KQ and slant 8's from Sunfire TGA 7400 may find this GTG interesting.

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That is basically how my last two g2g's were structured Just a fun day, with no REAL structure and an attempt to get through as much content as possible. First g2g went awry somewhat as the speaker switcher and all that jazz took up some substantial time, the second g2g we really managed to cruise through quite a bit of good stuff... Hanging out is almost my favorite part anyways
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To continue the tangential nature of the thread ... two weeks ago I installed the Marantz AV7702 pre after selling my Integra DHC-80.3. I also had a NIB Emotiva XMC-1 waiting in the wings but due to the Marantz early arrival it became the first replacement contender. I was interested in the Marantz due to another forum member who had gone from Integra to Marantz and he was adamant that the Marantz sounded much better. I got a good deal on the Marantz and a reasonable price for the Integra so it seemed like a worthwhile move. The Emotiva was an impulse buy (is there any other kind ) based upon an interest in Dirac which of course isn't as yet available.

I setup the Marantz and had no issues doing so. It automatically connected to my router and I did an upgrade before the first setup. I attempted to run Audyssey and immediately had to increase the gain on my LG amp that powers the 215RT's to get any bass out of the LFE channels. Once that was done, I ran an 8 position Audyssey and positioned the mic as suggested by the on screen display. Audyssey correctly set my 215's as full range and put the levels at the max cut (-12) probably due to the amp gain increase. As usual, the T8LP surrounds were set to 80Hz and the Slanted 8 surround backs were set at 60hz due to their dual boundary wall/ceiling placement. I changed the SB's to 80hz and ran through some movie and music demos. The bass seemed neutered and so I shut Audyssey down and ran the same demo material again and the bass was back strong as ever. I haven't run any OmniMic graphs yet but will do so over the holiday weekend. Another setup of Audyssey yielded the same results.

It is difficult to say if there is a significant difference between the Integra and the Marantz but it does sound great so I am assuming that they are at least equal. I am tempted to say it sounds better but I know better . We watched the latest X-Men film the other night and the surround effects were really good. I also found myself listening through the end credits as the musical score sounded so good it gave me the chills. I am on the side of "these products sound more alike than different" group and I'm sure DB test would prove that point. My preference for un EQ'd sound continues and Audyssey seems like a useless tool for my situation where I have a treated room and DSP capability via my Rane processor.

During the Marantz trial I decided to put the Emotiva up on Ebay and I received an offer I couldn't refuse and so it is was sold before I had a chance to give it a go. Honestly, I was concerned about all of the missed deadlines and bug issues with the Emo and along with my desire to install Atmos speakers, I took the safer course with the Marantz. So Atmos is the next challenge and I'm waiting impatiently for Jeff to offer up something.

So it goes.
Those are pretty much my exact thoughts having moved from my Denon 4311 to the Marantz. I can't say for sure it sounds better, but it might. I feel very confident saying it sounds at least as good.
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