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Not yet. It does not look like anything made by BMS so I'm guessing Jeff has someone making him a custom version. The phase plug must be important to his design. It certainly is unique.

I guess I will have to buy a pair and find out.
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I swear a few pages back it was stated the CD is the same but with some added changes.

Edit: just looked back and it seems the woofers are the same, not sure about the CD.
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I swear a few pages back it was stated the CD is the same but with some added changes.
That cd in the back is the 212TT and in the front with phase plug sticking out is the newer coaxial. Its definitely not the same as 4593.





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Since Jeff tunes all speakers to his ear I would imagine they sound the same. The differences in FR will be related to the phase plug.

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That cd in the back is the 212TT and in the front with phase plug sticking out is the newer coaxial. Its definitely not the same as 4593.





BMS 4593

Yeah, I edited my post as you were posting this. It is the woofer that is the same. Someone mentioned what the changes were - the phase plug was one change and there was one other change to the cd but I can't find what it was.
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Additional shorting rings is the other difference.
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Additional shorting rings is the other difference.
Thanks - now I remember
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Not yet. It does not look like anything made by BMS so I'm guessing Jeff has someone making him a custom version. The phase plug must be important to his design. It certainly is unique.

I guess I will have to buy a pair and find out.
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Features a new phase plug for improved response and additional shorting rings for even lower distortion.
This implied to me that it was an evolution of or modification to the old driver.
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Regarding the "2015 BIG changes" 212HT: Are the AVSholics expecting a 10% improvement or no real audible differences?

Also, for those of you who have heard the 212HT and 228HT is the top end about the same? I am thinking about getting
the 212s and don't want to lose that.
I have to say I'm slightly concerned that the 212HT might have a slightly different sound due to the wood horn. I definitely noticed a tonal difference between the 215s and 212HT with the 215 sounding more laid back and the 212 more forward. For some this might actually be an improvement as some have said things like glass breakage scenes that were a little biting with the 212 were better on the 215. I'm sure I could get used to either but I do prefer the 212 sound overall. And for me, it won't matter as I won't be getting rid of my 212s. For those that don't have a 212 to directly compare against, it likely won't matter one itty bitty bit as the 215 was a nice, smooth, detailed speaker on its own.
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@dgage ,


Did you get a chance to try the Behringer graphic equalizer on your 212LP yet?

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I have to say I'm slightly concerned that the 212HT might have a slightly different sound due to the wood horn. I definitely noticed a tonal difference between the 215s and 212HT with the 215 sounding more laid back and the 212 more forward. For some this might actually be an improvement as some have said things like glass breakage scenes that were a little biting with the 212 were better on the 215. I'm sure I could get used to either but I do prefer the 212 sound overall. And for me, it won't matter as I won't be getting rid of my 212s. For those that don't have a 212 to directly compare against, it likely won't matter one itty bitty bit as the 215 was a nice, smooth, detailed speaker on its own.
Wouldn't the wooden horn have. 90x90 dispersion pattern also? I wonder how much of a difference that makes vs the 60/40?
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@dgage ,

Did you get a chance to try the Behringer graphic equalizer on your 212LP yet?
No, been too busy building subs. Are you waiting on me to try it? Didn't you recommend it to me? LOL!
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